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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]

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To reiterate and add upon:

Anyway to counter a heavily farmed team and you are low level? Anyway to play smart and reverse the tables?

I just played a game as Phantom Lancer. The other team didn't seem to know what to do with my illusions, and after I got Manta Style they were even more confused.

Two questions: Are MS illusions able to spawn like PL normal ones? And how does one counter illusions?

You only get the Manta Style illusions from using the item and I don't think they can spawn additional illusions with the passive, but I could be wrong.

How to counter illusions? Get a bunch of AoE. Earthshaker, Sand King, Leshrac, Death Prophet, you get the idea.
 
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You only get the Manta Style illusions from using the item and I don't think they can spawn additional illusions with the passive, but I could be wrong.How to counter illusions? Get a bunch of AoE. Earthshaker, Sand King, Leshrac, Death Prophet, you get the idea.

You are, they can spawn illusions.

And DP isn't really as aoe as people think, yeah she has the spammable nuke, but her ulti is largely single target.
 
Watching Cyborgmatt stream, apparently Batrider got higher rezed textures/detail. When is ES going to get some love? His portrait is god awful.
 
Played around on test server for a bit, some of my impressions. Visage's model is crazy good. Visage is a lot of fun but his ult feels kind of wack, 100 gold bounty on 300 health 2 minute cooldown familiars? They die so easily from cleave, but it looks like they are immune to magic aoe. Killing panda spirits is 100x harder and they give jack. Dude is super tanky for an int hero though. I know they use to trilane him, but where would he fit now, mid?

Nyx seems to need momentum and an early dagon to have a presence. I hate the cast time on his damage reflect. Once you get that dagon though you are a killing machine.

Out of the three, KOTL seems the strongest in what he can do. His nuke look like it would be godly for laning phase, and tranquil/chakra makes it so he never has to return to base. The mana rupture is nicer than I thought it would be as well. Also really love his spell effects, but his nuke is kind buggy on my computer. His ult reminds me a lot of gandalf coming to helms deep.
 
Wow Visage actually mentions SK's real Dota 2 name. I think thats a first for character who had their names changed. Its already rare enough that people get referred to by their real name if that isnt their main name.
 
The only other instance I can think of that happening is when Windrunner calls Drow Traxex.

Edit: Nevermind, misread.
 
Some of the tweaked icons are really nice! looks like most just got contrast/colour adjustments but recipes look a whole look better now
 
I just played a game as Phantom Lancer. The other team didn't seem to know what to do with my illusions, and after I got Manta Style they were even more confused.

Two questions: Are MS illusions able to spawn like PL normal ones? And how does one counter illusions?

Battlefury works well.
 
Tranquil boots icons have been reversed. It now glows when broken instead of when it is ready. I'm thinking that's a bug instead of an intended change. Mana ring has a weird white border on one side that needs fixed as well.

Recipes look nice now though for sure.
 
So Summer Chests are still dropping until the 31st, correct?

I haven't been able to play since my laptop fan got screwy. Ordered a replacement online, but they sent the wrong part. It's now in the shop and will be there for another day or two.
 
445 cs in 58 mins as am, still lose to a 3 man stack. I don't queue with 2 other people, why should I have to fight stacks :/. Hopefully team queueing makes it in soon.
 
445 cs in 58 mins as am, still lose to a 3 man stack. I don't queue with 2 other people, why should I have to fight stacks :/. Hopefully team queueing makes it in soon.

I had a nice stack against my solo queue this morning..faced against quantic's new team including brax.
 
Some of the item icon changes are better, some are worse, some I'm indifferent to. It's a mixed bag.

Armlet is worse I think - less distinctive.

Blink dagger put on some weight - looks pretty bad now.

Poor Man's Shield no longer seems to be fitting of its name.

Vanguard, I think is harder to decipher that it's a shield rather than a mask or something - change for the worse.

Skadi change is okay, though the all-white background was distinctive.

The skinnier/zoomed out Quarterstaff kind of bugs me, but I'm fairly indifferent to that one.

Orb of Venom is subtle, but I think a change for the worse.

Medallion of Courage is an overall improvement I think. More detailed.

I like the new Magic Wand.

Hood I'm fairly indifferent to. Probably an improvement.

Heart is slightly worse.

Headdress I like the new one, but I think the old was pretty distinctive as well.

Couriers are awful now.

Dagon is improved.

Chainmail is more detailed - better, even though it's actually scale mail in the icon.

Bottle is worse.

Kinda like the glowing eyes on BKB.

AC is changed, but not necessarily better or worse - just different.

Drum - eh?

Wards are most definitely worse. That orientation just doesn't look as good.

Side-by-side comparisons that I'm referring to. Other ones I didn't mention may be very subtly changed, but are pretty much the same.
 
The Cyborgmatt blog post is up now, which also includes side-by-side comparisons of the item icons.

Probably Meepo next week, given that his minimap icon is now done (along with all the other work on him that's finished).

And anyone else have a hard time spotting any differences in the Crystal Maiden comparison shots? She looked pretty much the same to me.
 
And anyone else have a hard time spotting any differences in the Crystal Maiden comparison shots? She looked pretty much the same to me.
Her texture's a lot smoother. Also looks like the painted in shadows were mostly removed.

The only icon I greatly dislike is the new vanguard. I'm fine with the design itself but it looks super realistic compared to the other icons.
 
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