The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)

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dmshaposv said:
To conceal his identity and sound intimidating. He actually did in the Flass "SHWEARRR TO MEE" scene in BB.

In TDK he had more dialogue and kinda exaggerated the voice - so it sounds worse.

Edit: Also it sucks I'm stuck in this thread while all my bat-gaf bros are in the spoiler thread. Feels bat-man. :(
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Well..to conceal his identity? You can see half his face! also, it doesnt sound intimidating it just sounds stupid. I think southpark did the impression very well...
 
Now that I think of it
I actually kind of liked the voice he did in the ski mask when meeting with Gordon the first time. It's was subtle but still pretty effective I thought. I need to see the movie again though.
 
Phat Michael said:
Well..to conceal his identity? You can see half his face! also, it doesnt sound intimidating it just sounds stupid. I think southpark did the impression very well...
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How many people can you identify just by mouth?

Anyway, I do think the voice is bad, but it can't really be helped. It doesn't really matter. When a giant man in a bat suit that is known for beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands and possibly has some otherworldly powers holds you 10 stories above ground and is threatening to drop you if you don't give him what he wants, your not going to be thinking about how silly his voice sounds.
 
Veelk said:
The cartoons had this as well, often even when Bruce doesn't even have his suit on. As long as he has the suit on, he does his Batman voice even if no one is around. Kevin Conroy did this as well when he was doing TAS, even when Bruce was out of costume and just working in his cave. Just think of it as his "I'm working" voice. Also, he probably does it so that he always remembers to do it, so that he never accidentally slips when he's in a situation where he has to fake it.

It's a shame that Bale sucks at disguising his voice, otherwise no one would be bothered by it.
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His voice was fine in the first one. Nolan just decided to alter it for some reason in the sequels.
 
TrumanBurbank said:
His voice was fine in the first one. Nolan just decided to alter it for some reason in the sequels.
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I feel it's the opposite. In the first movie, his threat to Flass does sound pretty silly to me. It may be the fact that he's standing still and trying to do that barely controlled growl. But in TDK and TDKR, he does the growl when he's beating the shit out of Joker/Bane, where the barely controlled growl seems appropriate.

When he talks in a normal tone, it's fine in all 3 imo
 
Veelk said:
How many people can you identify just by mouth?

Anyway, I do think the voice is bad, but it can't really be helped. It doesn't really matter. When a giant man in a bat suit that is known for beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands and possibly has some otherworldly powers holds you 10 stories above ground and is threatening to drop you if you don't give him what he wants, your not going to be thinking about how silly his voice sounds.
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well he is the most popular man in gotham city so....i dont think it would be hard to work it out. but thats another story.

I just dont think bale is a particularly good wayne/batman. hes not as bad as clooney or val kilmer but he doesnt hold a candle to michael keaton in the role.
 
Veelk said:
It's a shame that Bale sucks at disguising his voice, otherwise no one would be bothered by it.
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That's the thing, Bale's Batman voice doesn't sound like it could be someone's actual voice. He doesn't "get into the persona" or anything, it sounds like he's actively making his voice really gravelly and it's dopey. Conroy did a good job in that regard.

That scene ended up being doubly silly because he had to point out a joke that didn't need pointing out.
 
Veelk said:
I feel it's the opposite. In the first movie, his threat to Flass does sound pretty silly to me. It may be the fact that he's standing still and trying to do that barely controlled growl. But in TDK and TDKR, he does the growl when he's beating the shit out of Joker/Bane, where the barely controlled growl seems appropriate.

When he talks in a normal tone, it's fine in all 3 imo
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You're mad. SWEAR TO ME is best Bat voice and the pinnacle of the series. I love that he's shaking with rage like a fucking psychopath before finally explodes and says WHERE WERE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING?
 
Scullibundo said:
You're mad. SWEAR TO ME is best Bat voice and the pinnacle of the series. I love that he's shaking with rage like a fucking psychopath before finally explodes and says WHERE WERE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING?
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Yeah. I don't like the Bat-Growl overall, but that was easily the best extreme version of it. The
"trigger" one
embarrassed me.
 
I never liked Begins. Loved TDK, so this was my experience...

Halfway through this movie I was thinking: meh. This is hollow. Its depressing. It's a piece of shit. The emperor has no clothes. Everything I liked about this trilogy was Ledger as Joker.

After the stadium scene and everything that followed: oh. Ohhhhh!! You just took a comic book movie to new heights. Brilliant. Loved where it went.

The best part about this movie was how gruesome it felt. Loved it, in the end.

Definitely sold on the Nolan trilogy at this point. It's uneven, to be sure, but brave as fuck in what it was trying to do.
 
It's fine that the bat voice retains even when no one is around/only talking to people who know his identity. Isn't it in this very thread where people were talking about the fact that Christian Bale retained his US accent for all interviews during Batman Begins?

That's kind of overkill but my point is, many actors retain elements of their character/accent even when the camera isn't rolling just so they can stay in character and keep the mood right. Think of it like that. Batman keeps the voice just to get in 'character' - he's in 'fear' mode. He needs to retains a sense of dread and if he keeps it up even when no one's around it's easier.
 
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I just received this MASSIVE book. It's a hardcover 304-page epos on everything related to the Nolan trilogy. Extremely well done with an insane amount of background information, concept art and behind-the-scenes pictures.

Also has more pics of Nolan looking like a boss than you can possibly imagine.


It's top notch in both quality and content and I'd highly recommend it to every Bat-fan out there. The very first two pages when you open the book is a spread picture of Batman Begins' young Bruce sitting next to his shot parents in Crime Alley, with the quote "Your parents' death was not your fault...", for christ's sake. That's awesome. Yes, the cover is beyond terrible but fortunately it's just a sleeve. The harcover is an amazing concept art of Batman standing on a roof looking over Gotham.
 
SJRB said:
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I just received this MASSIVE book. It's a hardcover 304-page epos on everything related to the Nolan trilogy. Extremely well done with an insane amount of background information, concept art and behind-the-scenes pictures.

Also has more pics of Nolan looking like a boss than you can possibly imagine.


It's top notch in both quality and content and I'd highly recommend it to every Bat-fan out there. The very first two pages when you open the book is a spread picture of Batman Begins' young Bruce sitting next to his shot parents in Crime Alley, with the quote "Your parents' death was not your fault...", for christ's sake. That's awesome. Yes, the cover is beyond terrible but fortunately it's just a sleeve. The harcover is an amazing concept art of Batman standing on a roof looking over Gotham.
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Good to see the superior Begins suit on the cover.
 
Not a great movie especially in the context of the brilliance of TDK. I thought Bane's voice acting was very bad and it killed a lot of the movie's atmosphere.
 
Add Nolan having no idea what to do with Harvey and a super preachy poorly written/thought out dialogue between Jim and his son. That movie felt 4 hours long.

TDKR > BB > TDK
 
DrBo42 said:
Add Nolan having no idea what to do with Harvey and a super preachy poorly written/thought out dialogue between Jim and his son. That movie felt 4 hours long.

TDKR > BB > TDK
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Is this a joke? The
monologue
in TDKR makes TDK's ending monologue sound like fucking Yeats.
 
DrBo42 said:
Tag what you're referring to, I can't recall.

Edit: I meant give me an example from it btw. I can't remember it.
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Gordon's ending monologue about the people of Gotham before we get to the BRUCE IS ALIVE stuff. I can't remember it exactly, I just remember that it felt really weak when watching it.
 
Scullibundo said:
Gordon's ending monologue about the people of Gotham before we get to the BRUCE IS ALIVE stuff. I can't remember it exactly, I just remember that it felt really weak when watching it.
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They'll know who saved them. It was The Batman.
That bit? I actually kinda loved that. Haha.
Reinforces the entire purpose of Batman as he is. A symbol. Anyone being able to help or bring about change. I like the simplicity of the delivery.
 
Scullibundo said:
Gordon's ending monologue about the people of Gotham before we get to the BRUCE IS ALIVE stuff. I can't remember it exactly, I just remember that it felt really weak when watching it.
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I really liked the stuff gordon said at the end and at the funeral
 
Crewnh said:
Really? The whole following orders thing didn't tip you off at the end?
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Following orders? Not sure we're even talking about the same thing right now. But we should perhaps avoid this discussion in this thread. It is the spiler-free one, after all.
 
dmshaposv said:
No that room was left for Extraction. A film by Christopher Nolan. Coming Summer 2014.
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Starring Michael Caine as the dentist and Cillian Murphy as his annoying pet squirrel who also happens to be his boss.

Jason Statham stars as a giraffe.

The twist is caine works at a zoo, but doesn't realise it

And that damn tooth won't come out

But its really the squirrels head

People look in horror as a lonely child shouts:


Stop stop he's already dead
 
After all the real life death surrounding his last 2 Batman movies, I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan did an animated movie or something.
 
re-watched Batman Begins last night. made TDKR so much clearer and made TDK seem like a side quest in the Trilogy.

forgot Victor Zsasz was in BB.
 
Really loved
the awkwardness and creepiness of the silent scenes when they blew up the town. It's a shame he had Bane saying the kids voice was nice or something, kinda ruined it a bit.
 
rezuth said:
Really loved
the awkwardness and creepiness of the silent scenes when they blew up the town. It's a shame he had Bane saying the kids voice was nice or something, kinda ruined it a bit.
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I thought this was the thread of no spoilers.
 
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