Shane Satterfield: Wii U will cost $299
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Captain Smoker
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COD was a million seller on the Wii, without a good online system.
And your arguments just refers to people who only play online with their friends.
Most people play online games with random people on the map.
I'm going to put this out there because I know I am not the only one who feels this way. I am going WiiU-PC next gen. There are very few console exclusives other than Nintendo that I am interested in. If there are any games on 720 or PS4 that I want to play, I will play them on my son's console. My gaming PC gives me almost all of the games I want to play other than Nintendo franchises. I will be buying a black WiiU at launch. I would pay as much as $350.00 for the console and not have a problem with it. Everyone needs to let it go and realize that the WiiU is not competing with the 360 and PS3, no matter what you may think. Depending on what is revealed in September, the WiiU can dominate this holiday season. I honestly don't think Nintendo will drop the ball right now.
chertipros
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That's definitely not the reason. Half this thread didn't care enough about nintendo's past consoles to buy those and they don't care enough about the wii u to care that it is not the same price as the consoles they ignored in the past
Giant Panda
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$300 sounds right. Any higher could result in a flop, any lower would lose Nintendo a lot of money.
Speedymanic
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A decent price. What Ninty need to do is clear all Wii stock from stores, both online and B&M. That alone will guarantee a very healthy sales period going into the holidays and beyond.
Some might be disagree, but it would be very stupid of them to leave the Wii on the market, for a number of reasons (confusion, cheaper price, etc).
Some might be disagree, but it would be very stupid of them to leave the Wii on the market, for a number of reasons (confusion, cheaper price, etc).
So things are moving pretty fast here, nothing to do really with Shatterfield but Wii U nevertheless. I'm not convinced myself that retailer listings are trust worthy so I do not create a new topic.
GAME France officially started their pre-orders for Wii U. I had a call from my local GAME store here in Paris and it seems they have faith in their intel. They had a "document from Nintendo" presenting the two Wii U colors so black confirmed if you trust GAME's intranet. Finally their end date for pre-orders has been set to the 12 november but that's a monday, not the normal friday for releases... Maybe for systems they close their pre-orders a few days ago... but like I said, I'm not convinced myself in the retailer "leaks".
Nevertheless, system preordered here, if you're french and have a GAME store near you, you can check that out.
GAME France officially started their pre-orders for Wii U. I had a call from my local GAME store here in Paris and it seems they have faith in their intel. They had a "document from Nintendo" presenting the two Wii U colors so black confirmed if you trust GAME's intranet. Finally their end date for pre-orders has been set to the 12 november but that's a monday, not the normal friday for releases... Maybe for systems they close their pre-orders a few days ago... but like I said, I'm not convinced myself in the retailer "leaks".
Nevertheless, system preordered here, if you're french and have a GAME store near you, you can check that out.
It seems like a lot of people here aren't even Nintendo fans nor going to buy Wii U, I think some people just feel complaining.
walking fiend
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I believe, Wii U to HD consoles will be what Kinect was to Wii: although it didn't set the world on fire, but it did manage to at least lure the already 360 owners to choose it over Wii; Wii U may not make a major bulk of core gamers move from their consoles to Wii U, however, it will make Wii U owners content with what they have instead of buying a PS4/720 and playing their core games there;
To a lesser extent, it will be attractive to people who don't have an HD console but want to buy a new console.
And finally it may snatch a smaller portion of people who already own 360/PS3 and will mostly move to PS4/720 along the way
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to support my point that there are people who care about core titles but don't have a PS3/360 yet, I should mention RE4 sold 2m on the Wii, despite already being released on the PS2 and only being a GC version with Wiimote controls;
There was no hate or bile in my comment. They're asking 299 for a console that doesn't have an established online system, only a few games which will also be avalible for the 360 and PS3. The said consoles have a broader selection avalible for them and they cost less to buy, and they are played by more people.
Edit Also Can Nintendo gurantee the other big games will be on thier console? GTA 5? Bioshock Infinite?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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That is some news. I dont think that was confirmed at all.
Snowden's Secret
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So, the prevailing logic here that because the PS2 sold 150mm then no other console can be considered to be at the saturation point unless it too has sold that many? So what happens if the PS4 sells 200mm? Does that retroactively prove the PS2 wasn't market saturated?
walking fiend
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no confirmation about colors at launch; it may be that black is available but white is not [unlikely situation], or that White is and black is not at launch [possible situation]
AdventureRacing
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What it proves is that the market is capable of having a console sell much more than 100 million pieces of HW. Which means that the reason for the wii's sales to be slowing down so much isn't because of market saturation. Of course you could argue that this is because of the market shrinking but that also doesn't hold much ground when you considering just how much more HW has been moved this generation.
The wii may have saturated it's potential audience of buyers but that doesn't mean it's sales are slowing down because the market is saturated (if that makes sense, i'm tired here).
Nearly confirmed for "one day", never confirmed for launch. The retailers told me they got a document from Nintendo (and they have it on their store desk for public information) with the two Wii U colors on it and actually asked me which color I wanted for my preorder.
InvincibleAgent
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"I'll buy it at a high price!"
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I don't have a gaming PC, but I'm planning on taking a similar approach: WiiU + PS4. This generation I was all Wii60 at first (much later picked up a PS3) and with Mass Effect, Valve, Rare, Mistwalker, Lionhead, Bungie, etc. all being console exclusive to the 360, I was perfectly happy with that. But now with so many recent changes (most of them gone/turned into shit, no more third party exclusives outside of Gears) and Sony having Naughty Dog, Quantic Dream, Sucker Punch, a chunk left of Team Ico, the bulk of third party support, and some niche japan titles; things are different now.
Unless Microsoft does something major with Kinect next generation or somehow pulls a 180 before then, I really don't think I'll be missing out on much without a 720.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Captain Smoker
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They already confirmed that you can download all retail games online (at least all Nintendo games).
AdventureRacing
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I feel the same way except halo is one of my favourite franchises ;;.
Even N64 games? It annoyed me with the Wii that you couldn't do that.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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No, it's that since we have an immediately preceding example of a console selling 50% more than the Wii without being completely dead after 6 years on the market that the Wii could've been doing a lot better than it has (especially in Japan). It's lack of support by the industry and Nintendo that led to the premature decline from > PS2 levels in 2006-2008 to well under PS2 levels just 3 years later.
No, it just would prove, once again, that this "saturation" excuse is pretty much always a crap excuse. Was SNES/GEN saturated since PS1 sold more than it? Was PS1 saturated since PS2 sold more than it?
I honestly can't recall a single downturn in console sales that I would legitimately describe as primarily due to "saturation."
What you're describing is "running out of demand," and every system hits that eventually. It's just usually not until the successor is already out on the market instead of being 2-3 years prior. Demand is usually created by having new games that people want to buy and by hitting price points that different tiers of consumers are willing to pay as an entry fee to get to play those games.
Barack Lesnar
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So every retail 1st party Wii U game will also be available day one as a download from the store? That's pretty huge, didn't know that. That could def lead to some impulse purchases on my end.
Yeah, and the rumor is that Nintendo is making the licensing fees so attractive for DD games that third-parties would almost have to hate money to keep their games off of DD for Wii U, too.
lunchwithyuzo
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I'm pretty sure it's also the case for 3DS games as of NSMB2/Onitore. Animal Crossing, Paper Mario 3 and Luigi's Mansion 2 all were confirmed to have day-and-date eShop releases already.
ajvizzgamer101
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I expected $300 since the day Wii U was announced.
Barack Lesnar
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Seems like something they should've given the spotlight to a bit more during E3. If MS or Sony announced the same for their 1st party 360 and PS3 games it would be pretty huge. It feels like Ninty just casually announced it.
lunchwithyuzo
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We did this in another thread, but it looks better than pretty much every PS360 rts, retail or otherwise.
MadeInBeats
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A) You said the Wii U is just a PS360 power wise.
B) ALL consoles have to launch at some point against older consoles with more games and install base.
It's like you have a problem with reality?!?!
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Sorry ahead of time for the off-toipc conversation, but:
I hear you. Halo was one of my favorite franchises until Halo 3, Halo ODST, and Halo Reach created some serious franchise fatigue for me. I'm kind of glad that Halo 4 has been handed off to a new developer, and I love what I have seen so far from the single player campaign (a very Metroid-ish-vibe). Basically, if Halo 4 really clicks with me, I'll reconsider my stance of a two system future.
I'm kinda surprised they're pushing for DD considering the WiiU is shipping sans a large hard drive.
lunchwithyuzo
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So did the Core 360, so does the Arcade 360, so does every version of the PSP, 3DS and Vita. Really PS3 is the only system that heavily pushes DD and includes mass storage as standard, and it sounds like even that's changing with the newest revision.
Nintendo gives you 8GB (more than enough to get started) and you can use non-proprietary USB HDDs or SDHC cards to upgrade at your discretion. Probably the best solution really.
metalslimer
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They did spotlight the fact that were doing this for 3DS. The Wii U still hasn't fully been announced really. They have to show the OS, online systems, and games coming past this year.
DD saves Nintendo money, so it's no surprise they are pushing it.
OldJadedGamer
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For the tech involved, I didn't feel the Wii was worth $250 and it became one of my all time least played consoles. I've bought every Nintendo system at launch starting with the SNES (no VB) and I've been happy with the rest of them. $300 for the WiiU is too much for me and will be the only Nintendo system I don't buy at launch.
By the time you add tax, the real controller, and a game I'm looking at close to or over $400 bucks. All that with no super launch title like Mario 64. I'll just pass and wait. $250 for a WiiU is pushing it but $300 is over my limit considering my experience with the Wii.
Uh, hu.
It's a valid argument. It all gets factored into the overall price. Plus I'm sure it will get to the point where third parties don't even use the tablet and just support the 360 knockoff.
OldJadedGamer
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When I do buy my WiiU, it will be the controller I personally use 95% of the time on the system.
There's no need for that controller. Is worse than adding Move/Kinect to the cost of Ps3/360, since there are actually Move/Kinect exclusives games. And no, we will never get to that point (The tablet is a superset of that controller).
MadeInBeats
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I take it you've tried the Wii U pad then.
Barack Lesnar
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I'm pretty sure the pad can do everything the traditional controller can. It has all the buttons.
ClovingWestbrook
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Pretty much where I stand as well.
MadeInBeats
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Well that settles that then. You would have to be a total mug to buy a 360 inside a WiiU case. Just like you, I'm no mug.
Which will cut you out from any games that use the screen in a useful and required way. If all you care about is multi-platform games that don't use the screen, then just buy another system. If you want to play Nintendo games and Wii U exclusives (in addition to the multi-platform games), you're going to have to use the GamePad, as Nintendo and most exclusive games will most definitely be requiring the GamePad for the majority of those games. The Core controller (which I plan on getting, too, whenever I get a Wii U) is going to be most useful for multi-platform games with little to no use of the screen.
Edit:
I suppose this begs the question of if the GamePad can be setup to display whatever it needs to display while using the Pro Controller for the controlling. Pikmin 3 uses that setup when using Wiimote+nunchuk, but it'd be interesting if games allowed using the Pro Controller to control the game while still sending data to the GamePad. Might not be possible due to conflicting controls if someone tried to use the GamePad at the same time as the Pro Controller for a single-player game.
metalslimer
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We all know where you stand. You're pretty much on Kosmo level when it comes to the Wii U
Pretty much. If you're going to be using the CC Pro for 95% of Wii U games, why would you even buy the system? Nintendo is going to force support of the gamepad or wiimote in most of their titles.
The thing is though the Wii U is not the Wii, if you didn't like the Wii that much ok sure but that doesn't mean the Wii U will be the same thing, the only thing they have in common is they have Wii as a name, use motion controls and is made by Nintendo but everything else is completely different.