Saudi Athlete to Withdraw If Not Allowed to Wear Hijab.

Status
Not open for further replies.
To be the devil's advocate for a second, I think the counterpoint is that if the Olympics are going to welcome all countries to the games, then one would assume they would consider things like religious beliefs and things of that nature when it comes to certain rules.

Olympics, and every sport, provides a ground set of rules. As hundreds in nations compete in the Olympics, you cannot give preference to any of them.

What happens if it gets pulled off during the match?

There is high probability that at least one Saudi cleric will declare her to be killed.
 
There has got to be a way for the sport hijab to work. On ther other hand, if she shuns the sport hijab, I dunno what to say. The sport hijab like a very reasonable accomodation to allow Muslim women to compete while observing their religious beliefs.
 
To be honest, the restriction on women's clothing in beach volleyball is sexist. And I say that as a red blooded male.

How is it sexist? They wear more than men do. There have been some female pairs in this Olympics in what are nearly full body uniforms due to the cold weather in England (summer Olympics in 50 degree weather is just odd).
 
mr-t-backrules.jpg

Quit your jibber hijabber, fool.
 
Until this Olympics they weren't allowed to wear shorts, if I'm not mistaken.

Baggy shorts, no, but they weren't forced to wear briefs. I'm married to a former player, and they don't view the briefs as something being forced upon them. It's what they'd wear given the choice. Mobility is all they care about.

The rules, btw:
Players must have matching uniforms. For men, this includes shorts and shirts if necessary. Women must have matching bathing suits. Players also must be barefoot while playing. These uniforms must be matching colors when players are in an official competition. They must also be clean.
 
Just let her compete. It's her choice to continue while knowing the danger. No reason to make rulings specifically for hijabs. It's more dangerous to let her go in to a match wholly outclassed by her opponent than because of her hajib.

Not really. It's unfair to her opponents if they have to worry about accidentally strangling her, IMO. Also, it's not her choice.
 
It's a fighting sport. If she gets chocked out by her own hijab then it's all good. What people choose to wear has played a factor in fights and wars throughout history.
 
For 99% of sports, this wouldn't matter.


But Judo? Good lord, pick a better sport to make your stand when it comes to clothing. Half the sport has to do with tugging on clothing.
 
I kind of want them to let her so I can see her fight that american woman. I mean, it won't be fair, but it might make for some good TV.
 
I hope they find a way to resolve this and have her compete, mainly because I'd love to see how one-sided this fight would be.
 
Baggy shorts, no, but they weren't forced to wear briefs. I'm married to a former player, and they don't view the briefs as something being forced upon them. It's what they'd wear given the choice. Mobility is all they care about.

The rules, btw:
Players must have matching uniforms. For men, this includes shorts and shirts if necessary. Women must have matching bathing suits. Players also must be barefoot while playing. These uniforms must be matching colors when players are in an official competition. They must also be clean.

Ah I see. My mistake.
 
How is it sexist? They wear more than men do. There have been some female pairs in this Olympics in what are nearly full body uniforms due to the cold weather in England (summer Olympics in 50 degree weather is just odd).

What? I watched the olympic highlights yesterday and the women were wearing two piece swim suits whilst the men were in t-shirts and shorts. The equivalent would be for men to wear speedos, but thankfully they don't.

They may have relaxed the dress code recently, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a culture of "tittilation" in women's beach volleyball.
 
not true, many Muslim women do not wear a Hijab or head coverings.

Check team Jordan

I'm not that familiar with how a judo match plays out, but if it poses some danger to her or the opposing player then she has to withdraw or drop the hijab.

No, it's not. Several people in my family and relatives don't wear hijab.

Not every Muslim abstains from alcohol either, that doesn't mean it is allowed. You can apply that to many examples. But the fact of the matter is a hijab is not optional. Come on guys, use some common sense.
 
What? I watched the olympic highlights yesterday and the women were wearing two piece swim suits whilst the men were in t-shirts and shorts. The equivalent would be for men to wear speedos, but thankfully they don't.

They may have relaxed the dress code recently, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a culture of "tittilation" in women's beach volleyball.

That doesn't make it sexist.

Check out this picture from Saturdays US-Australia match. Tell me how titilating the Aussie woman's bathing suit is.
 
Avoiding alcohol is mentioned in the Quraan, wearing a veil isn't.

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful." [Quran 33:59]

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna" [Quran 24:31]​

This without even citing the Hadiths
 
"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful." [Quran 33:59]

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna" [Quran 24:31]​

This without even citing the Hadiths
Thanks for saving me the trouble.
 
"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful." [Quran 33:59]

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna" [Quran 24:31]​

This without even citing the Hadiths
al-Noor 24:31...
To what does 'forbidden things' refer?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom