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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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I love Marie.

Seriously, Marie might be my favorite character in the show. I have zero understanding of how anybody could hate her. Sure, she's a slightly racist gossipy busybody shoplifter, but she's family. If you're going to be down on her for that I don't know how you can watch the show.
 
Okay, Episode 4 confirmed that Vince Gilligan is a hack.

He's trying to create this deep, conflicted character with Skyler and just failing miserably. The swimming pool scene was embarrassingly bad. I mean I actually paused it and got up to do something else, I was so embarrassed.
 
Okay, Episode 4 confirmed that Vince Gilligan is a hack.

He's trying to create this deep, conflicted character with Skyler and just failing miserably. The swimming pool scene was embarrassingly bad. I mean I actually paused it and got up to do something else, I was so embarrassed.

If/when I ever rewatch the series I will be fast forwarding through every skyler moment so far this season besides maybe stealing juniors bacon.
 
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Okay, Episode 4 confirmed that Vince Gilligan is a hack.

He's trying to create this deep, conflicted character with Skyler and just failing miserably. The swimming pool scene was embarrassingly bad. I mean I actually paused it and got up to do something else, I was so embarrassed.
You should make your trolling less obvious.

Also, Vince Gilligan didn't write Fifty-One
 
Yeah, I agree. Didn't read it as suicide at all. It was escape in a much more immediate and visceral sense. She couldn't stand to listen to Walt any more and play the good wife so she got to the most immediate escape she could. The slowness and the dead look on her face coming from the fight in her brain between the competing priorities of seeming normal and escaping the situation.

Wasn't that a fake attempt from Skylar to convince marie and hank to take the kids.

I didn't read it as more than that.
 
Seriously, Marie might be my favorite character in the show. I have zero understanding of how anybody could hate her. Sure, she's a slightly racist gossipy busybody shoplifter, but she's family. If you're going to be down on her for that I don't know how you can watch the show.

Don't forget - she gives a mean hand job!
 
Okay, Episode 4 confirmed that Vince Gilligan is a hack.

He's trying to create this deep, conflicted character with Skyler and just failing miserably. The swimming pool scene was embarrassingly bad. I mean I actually paused it and got up to do something else, I was so embarrassed.


Listen to David Chens BB podcast for an interview from the director of the episode. It's twenty min and they hop right to discusssion, then chill your fucking pill a bit dude.
 
Okay, Episode 4 confirmed that Vince Gilligan is a hack.

He's trying to create this deep, conflicted character with Skyler and just failing miserably. The swimming pool scene was embarrassingly bad. I mean I actually paused it and got up to do something else, I was so embarrassed.


Listen to David Chens BB podcast for an interview from the director of the episode. It's twenty min and they hop right to discusssion, then chill your fucking pill a bit dude.
 
I keep forgetting that Rian Johnson is an actual director of movies. He made Brick which was a good movie a while ago. He is making the upcoming Looper with joseph gordon levitt and bruce willis. He writes and directs them. Doubly impressive.
 
I know it's been discussed before but I haven't seen it mentioned recently (hard to keep up with this thread)

Anyone think it's possible that Steve was working for Gus/Mike?

Seems unlikely since he wasn't on the list of names/bank accounts that they found but certain plot points have made it seem like Gus had someone on the inside.

EDIT: Fry8 that is the best avatar I've ever seen haha
 
Wasn't that a fake attempt from Skylar to convince marie and hank to take the kids.

I didn't read it as more than that.

Watch her face in the scene, though. She's not faking that dead look for the audience, because none of the rest of the people in the scene can see her. It's a ploy, but it's the kind of ploy you come up with because it represents an actual desire of yours.

The biggest thing I don't understand about Skylar, right from season 3, is why she is so hesitant to tell Walt Jr. that his father is terrible. It seems like the best weapon against Walt AND the right thing to do.
 
The biggest thing I don't understand about Skylar, right from season 3, is why she is so hesitant to tell Walt Jr. that his father is terrible. It seems like the best weapon against Walt AND the right thing to do.

She's not a complete asshole and doesn't want to use people as pawns?
 
I thought episode 4, "Fifty One," was great. I've almost done a 180 on hating Skyler's character. She does have a point -- just at the end of last season, Walter thought a man was coming to kill the whole family. From her perspective, he's proven that he doesn't have a handle on the situation. Flinging herself in the pool I'll admit was weird and overly dramatic, but her motivation makes sense. She wants to protect her kids from whatever happens next with Walter.

And Walter is being insanely greedy at this point, far beyond any actual needs. At the beginning, he wanted to make money to leave behind for his family. He had clear and present needs. Now, he's buying cars he doesn't need, and pressing an unreliable methylamine contact. He has no regard for Skyler's mental health and he clearly views her as the enemy now ("my children," "your plan," etc), which is a departure from season 1.

Of course I'm still rooting for Walter and the whole gang, particularly Mike, but so far it seems like the point of this season is how Walter is losing touch with his original reasons for doing things.

Great season so far. It's been quite a ride, QUITE A RIDE!
 
How is it using people as pawns to tell her son the accurate truth about what's going on? Every moment she keeps Walt Jr. in the dark is putting him in more danger.

It seems like the best weapon against Walt

Telling Walt Jr would probably wreck JR emotionally. Like Skysky said, she's just waiting for the cancer to come back and is hoping he drops dead instead of having to expose him.
 
R.I.P Aztek, we hardly knew yee.



Brofist.

It seems clear that Walt has become the antagonist of the season, but I still can't help but root for him. Hopefully in part 2 of S5 he finds his redemption.

That's kind of the issue. Walt has been the main character of the show since the beginning, and yes we want him to keep cooking meth because it's dramatically interesting. But if it comes down to Walt vs. Jesse -- or even Walt vs. Mike -- I'm not going to root for Walt.
 
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