Papa Johns CEO wants to raise Pizza prices in order to offset Obamacare costs

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So Papa Johns is going to use socialism in order to battle a somewhat socialist policy? lol

Except in this case it's just because he's a cheap asshole and it's for pizza, not affordable healthcare for millions of people.
 
So is Obama care halfway between the bullshit insurance the US currently has and the mighty NHS, or is it still way off that marvellous idea?
 
Haven't bought a Papa Johns pizza in years, their cheese, sauce, and crust are all lacking in quality and soul. I did like the little pepperoncinis they threw in the box though.

Easy boycott for me.
 
I'll bet that 15 cents that he is not differentiating between nominal healthcare cost increases and increases due solely to the new legislation(if there even are any). This is clearly politically motivated.
 
Would gladly cover the costs if it was all about healthcare coverage for his employees. That doesn't seem to be his concern though, he just wants to politicize it.
 
Rentahamster said:
Most business pass on tax increases to their customers at least in part, especially if said tax increase reduces their profit enough to make doing business not as worth the effort.
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Not as worth the effort? They have a 41% profit margin. Even if he ate the costs that shouldn't do jack shit to his business as a whole.

Rentahamster said:
You're gonna get mad at him that he's fully disclosing what he's gonna do, just like a lot of other businesses? Granted, he could have made his commentary a little less obviously partisan, but it's not like he's the only business owner who's gonna do this.
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Fully disclosing is one thing, and fine he can do that, but what he said is kind of loathsome to me. He said he would do everything in his power to protect this shareholders, while seemingly not giving a fuck about doing anything in his power at all to give healthcare to his employees. It's not that it's obviously partisan. It's that he's obviously a goddamned dick to the people making the product he's getting rich off of.
 
Im sure the costs saved from people not suffering health problems due to avoiding pizza because of higher prices will save consumers a lot money in the long run. I have changed my mind, I support this move
 
Waiting for a Romney PAC to use this as a talking point in a TV ad. Or even better, he brings it up in the debates :-) PAPAGATE!!
 
ReBurn said:
So is mine.

Seriously, though. I've made a list of altruistic corporations that will not pass costs on to their customers:

1.
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While this is true, again, I think it's worth pointing out that explicitly stating that increased costs that threaten profits must invariably be offset by increases in the prices of goods. Maybe this fact should go without saying, but saying it strikes me as bad PR. Whether it seems laughable are counterintuitve for any company to do so, in theory, a company could absorb the cost of something like this. As long as the company is still adequately profitable, the shareholders will survive.
 
Philthy said:
Their pizza is truly awful. I don't say that as a bandwagon jumper, I say that as pure truth.

I'm honestly surprised they have lasted this long. Someone elsewhere mentioned their main source of income are broke college students, which means they probably just lost that with this ridiculous statement.
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i can see this being true. two of my friends get papa johns at least once a week.

apparently they have this program where if you order enough pizza, you get a free one.
 
This figure is ridiculous by the way.

Dominos sells 400 million pizzas in a year. Papa Johns is slightly smaller (3500 locations to Dominos' 5000)

Someone do the math. How much money would an extra 14 cents per pizza bring in? I'm sure much above what Obamacare will add to their healthcare costs.
 
Galvanise_ said:
So is Obama care halfway between the bullshit insurance the US currently has and the mighty NHS, or is it still way off that marvellous idea?
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Obamacare kills pizza. That is all you need to know. Do not think about it further. Obamacare, kills pizza. How could you support it?
 
C4Lukins said:
Obamacare kills pizza. That is all you need to know. Do not think about it further. Obamacare, kills pizza. How could you support it?
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Pizza death panels

We're through the looking glass, people.
 
RDreamer said:
Fully disclosing is one thing, and fine he can do that, but what he said is kind of loathsome to me. He said he would do everything in his power to protect this shareholders, while seemingly not giving a fuck about doing anything in his power at all to give healthcare to his employees. It's not that it's obviously partisan. It's that he's obviously a goddamned dick to the people making the product he's getting rich off of.
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It's being pulled from a conference call with his shareholders. All they want to know is if it's going to cost them money.
 
dave is ok said:
This figure is ridiculous by the way.

Dominos sells 400 million pizzas in a year. Papa Johns is slightly smaller (3500 locations to Dominos' 5000)

Someone do the math. How much money would an extra 14 cents per pizza bring in? I'm sure much above what Obamacare will add to their healthcare costs.
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An extra $45,000,000
 
If Obamacare is in fact not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto consumers in order to protect our shareholders best interests.
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"Hey consumers, fuck off! What have you done for us lately?"
 
My sales tax just went up by .5% (to 9.75%) so that these little assholes in my suburb can have an independent school system. I can handle a comparatively smaller increase if it means everyone in the country gets to have health insurance. It's a much more noble pursuit, imo.
 
My big sis works for the company that sells cheese to Papa John's, and she loathes them. Says they're the biggest bunch of idiot assholes in the industry. So honestly, this doesn't surprise me.

And am I actually supposed to feel sorry for Mr. Schnatter, now that he has to provide his employees with insurance? Those poor, poor executives and shareholders. How will they ever survive?
 
BertramCooper said:
My big sis works for the company that sells cheese to Papa John's, and she loathes them. Says they're the biggest bunch of idiot assholes in the industry. So honestly, this doesn't surprise me.

And am I actually supposed to feel sorry for Mr. Schnatter, now that he has to provide his employees with insurance? Those poor, poor executives and shareholders. How will they ever survive?
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Yeah, I don't have anything concrete (so take it with a grain of salt) but plenty of hearsay that PJ's corporate is rife incompetence and nepotism. Not sure how it stacks up with other fast food places, but your sister's account doesn't surprise me in the least.
 
Keru_Shiri said:
Perhaps in a world without Dominos. Sunk my teeth into a Steak and Provolone pizza and never looked back. Easier on the wallet to boot.
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Dominos was a 1/10 before they redid their crust by adding 3 pounds of garlic salt to it.

Now it's a 2/10.

With that said, now is a good as time as any to stop buying from Papa Johns (and maybe stop being fat)
 
While the ACA doesn't do a whole lot to curb the growth in prices for health care, it does have some elements that should work favorably in that regard. In other words, Papa John's should see its costs for health care rise slower than they otherwise would have in the future, not faster. Of course, that doesn't mean that prices of goods won't have to rise to compensate, but Obama and the Democrats are more likely to be saving Papa John's money than costing it money.
 
Mister Zimbu said:
Dominos was a 1/10 before they redid their crust by adding 3 pounds of garlic salt to it.

Now it's a 2/10.

With that said, now is a good as time as any to stop buying from Papa Johns (and maybe stop being fat)
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I'd take the delicious garlic salt over PJ's concrete-shattering crust any day. And 1/10? Not since the revision, my friend. The quality of the cheese alone shot up dramatically.

Domino's still has shitty peperoni though, imo.

JokerOfSpades said:
My man. Domino's is the best chain pizza.
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This guy knows what's up.
 
I must be missing something here but isn't he basically saying, his costs to run the business are going up and therefore they must increase the prices of the products they create?

Isn't that pretty much expected?
 
If this does turn out to increase their costs then it makes sense if they're trying to maintain their profit margins. But those are ridiculously high profit margins, they pay drivers shit, and their pizza isn't very good unless you douse it with garlic butter.

But the fact that he's making it a political point strikes me as a terrible idea and I will no longer be buying from them. Only order a few pizzas from there a year, but no more.
 
KiKaL said:
I must be missing something here but isn't he basically saying, his costs to run the business are going up and therefore they must increase the prices of the products they create?

Isn't that pretty much expected?
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Yup, but he is making it a political statement which sets ppl off. Most businesses would just not say anything and raise their prices quietly.

A lot of companies plan on increasing their prices because of health care reforms and such, but most just won't say anything about it.
 
I also would gladly pay an extra 20 cents to provide people with healthcare, but let's be honest:

Papa John's will "round up" and another dollar will be added to the cost. That's how these businesses work.

Good thing I won't be buying Papa John's any time soon. I agree with what was said earlier--I'm done buying from businesses who voice their political concerns whether I agree with them or not.
 
turnbuckle said:
If this does turn out to increase their costs then it makes sense if they're trying to maintain their profit margins. But those are ridiculously high profit margins, they pay drivers shit, and their pizza isn't very good unless you douse it with garlic butter.

But the fact that he's making it a political point strikes me as a terrible idea and I will no longer be buying from them. Only order a few pizzas from there a year, but no more.
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I always thought the garlic butter was the worst part. I throw it out every time.

I don't mind papa johns. But there's a pizza place on the first floor of my apartment building that I order from most of the time.
 
KiKaL said:
I must be missing something here but isn't he basically saying, his costs to run the business are going up and therefore they must increase the prices of the products they create?

Isn't that pretty much expected?
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He's made it a point to publicize this cost increase as well as assigning blame for it to a specific piece of legislation that happens to originate with a political party he doesn't support. In addition he is probably misrepresenting at best and outright lying at worst.
 
Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza
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I thought that was quite good. I expected to see $3-5 or something stupid when I opened the thread.

Delusibeta said:
..you all realise that the actual increase will be closer to a two dollars, right? Any excuse to screw the customer.
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of course they're going to round it up and take the extra profit but that's freedom works, commie! U-S-A
 
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