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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]

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If any mode needed swap it was SD. Now there's no reason to not just all random and swap picks with teammates.

If valve only implemented swap in SD, maybe in RD/CM too, then that would have been great. Not sure why AP has it too be honest. There should be risk/reward to randoming your hero but now the risk is mitigated a lot because of swaps.

Not really. I mean take you, for example. You random doom every game, which is a risk in and of itself because that hero is awful.
 
Not being able to swap in SD is so weird. It's the only gamemode that really benefits swapping. Maybe RD, but SD mostly.
 
Neat update, but besides swap no major things, but that was expected. Some much needed fixes/changes again. Tobi's job is being made easier every patch it seems haha.
 
If any mode needed swap it was SD. Now there's no reason to not just all random and swap picks with teammates.

Agreed 100 %.

The ONLY mode that really needs swapping is SD/RD. I don't see the point whatsoever in AP. It's ridiculous.

Waited so long for Swap to be in and now it sucks totally.
 
Swap in SD just makes it RD with a smaller hero pool... I understand the need for it, but I always thought the whole point of SD is that you pick from what you're given whether you like it or not.
 
My only guess for not including -swap in -SD is that the way they implemented it is via the scoreboard, not the hero-pick UI, and they want to add it to -SD when they can add it to the hero-pick UI.

I see no other reason to not have it in -SD, cause that is where it is arguably the most important.
 
Swap in SD just makes it RD with a smaller hero pool... I understand the need for it, but I always thought the whole point of SD is that you pick from what you're given whether you like it or not.

Nah, it's still quite different. And sometimes as you said, you get stuck with three heroes that you are absolutely junk with. But your teammate may have one of your best heroes and he's okay with playing w/e you have. Suddendly, with swapping, you just put your team in a much better position of winning than before. Makes it much more fun to MM with.

You still get what your team is given ; in that regard, it's different from RD, since RD is a common hero pool for both teams, where it's 15 different heroes per team in SD.
 
Witch Doctor is still an awful hero, but I learned after the game where I randomed him that you have to stand still to channel Death Ward >_>

That may have helped. Though maybe not, since it was like 4 carries vs. a BH and Furion plus supports, and the Furion wasn't very good. They had QoP, Nightstalker, TA, and Huskar.
 
I remember when WD and VS were considered the two best supports in the game. Another time when Alchemist, Medusa, and Drow Ranger were the best carries in the game. Man how the times change.
 
That's how channeling works <_< Witch Doctor is not awful.

Oh no, I totally get that, I just wasn't reading the skill close enough and thought it was like the Juggernaut ward or something and was being killed instantly. The fact that I was failing with his ult has no bearing on the fact that I still think he's a bad hero. The other skills just aren't that good. Maledict is a tiny fucking area for one, not to mention the others.

And anyone else experiencing issues with MM? Sometimes I'll queue, and then when someone declines a match, it gets stuck in an endless loop and doesn't go back to searching. Have to quit out of the game to make it do anything again. AFK People/Assholes ruining the game further!
 
Maledict is also super-powerful >_>. If it wasn't a tiny area it'd be pretty imba.

His heal also has its uses, depending on who you're laning against. And his auto-attack damage at level 1 is pretty strong, good harassment power. Cask is a bit RNG at times, but if there's no more creeps around 2 or more enemies it's the most awesomest spell in the world.
 
Wand charges and mek hurt maledict quite a bit though.

Also how can Valve manage to completely screw up swap? Not in SD and in AP? The fuck are they smoking?
 
Aghanims wd is crazy good. WD doesn't usually get the farm he needs in pubs to get that agh/bkb sadly. Dagon + maledict is up there with dagon pugna and dagon shadow demon.
 
- Fixed a bug in Wearable Importing when using SMD files (fixes items not attaching correctly to the hero model)

That was a bug... I spent three damn hours thinking I was screwing up attaching a hat to Rubick. I thought I was doing something wrong. Worked in the modeling program, worked in the model viewer, then it attached to his eye ball in game.
 
Is there an explanation/fix for the massive slowdown that happens when the game updates? Thought my PC was going to crash then I realize its just dota2 patching...
 
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The replaced item.
 
Ha, I had one of those stupid plagary things and thought it looked awful, almost deleted it last night too >.< the new one looks tonnes better.
 
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