aint no fucking way to hate someone that boss.
He's pure cancer and it's goddamn glorious
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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC
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aint no fucking way to hate someone that boss.
He's pure cancer and it's goddamn glorious
Air Zombie Meat
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I think it's really dumb the way Walt keeps complaining about paying off Mikes crew. Would he rather they tell the dea everything they know? Seems like he should be taking the issue more seriously than he is. I get that it's meant to be showing him getting greedy but I think it crosses a line into stupidity.
Some might assume that because some of us dislike the female characters on the show. I don't dislike them because they're female, I dislike them because they're against the plan. Lidia is weak-willed and dangerous. Skyler is breaking down after forcing her way back into Walt's life. Marie is just a blabber-mouth, but I actually like Marie. It's unfortunate that they haven't created a female character that's involved in the game and not ready to turncoat at a moment's notice. Skyler was very likeable when it seemed like she was fully on-board with Walt, but now that she's going all emo, I hate her again. I don't see that as misogynist though. The hateable male characters generally get dealt with quickly on the show, like Tuco. PEACE.
Holy shit at the ending.
I wasn't expecting that but for good reason.
Yeah they established the fact that they couldn't leave witnesses behind and all that, but still came off as weird to me.
The kid was waving, surely he wasn't planning on running away any minute, he probably didn't even understood what they were celebrating about (or even doing there) you mean there wasn't a way to spin that around with some bullshit story without killing him? You think the train people were gonna hunt down the kid to ask him if he saw anything suspicious? Also yeah, Walt and Mike told Todd to obey and this and that, but still, wtf shooting someone like that, especially when as i said, he wasn't running away.
I don't know, came off a bit as shock value to have the bombshell ending (which worked, fwiw).
Still a great episode.
I wasn't expecting that but for good reason.
Yeah they established the fact that they couldn't leave witnesses behind and all that, but still came off as weird to me.
The kid was waving, surely he wasn't planning on running away any minute, he probably didn't even understood what they were celebrating about (or even doing there) you mean there wasn't a way to spin that around with some bullshit story without killing him? You think the train people were gonna hunt down the kid to ask him if he saw anything suspicious? Also yeah, Walt and Mike told Todd to obey and this and that, but still, wtf shooting someone like that, especially when as i said, he wasn't running away.
I don't know, came off a bit as shock value to have the bombshell ending (which worked, fwiw).
Still a great episode.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I said a few episodes back. They know about him; this is stupid, even by his standards.
I think he got shot in the head. Chances are pretty slim he survived.
murder a kid in cold blood
poison a kid
kill multiple people
DIFFERENT VALUES, AMBIGUOUS, SHADES OF GREY
IMACOMPUTA
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Todd's getting killed ala box cutter for that one.
In the promo for next episode
________________________they're burying him_______________
Today's ending was pretty black and white, no shades of grey about it.
They had to defend themselves, kid could've thrown them the deadly spider jar or run them over with the dirtbike; kind of a 'kill or be killed' situation there.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's almost like.. GTA, most video games, gangsta rap, most mobster movies, spaghetti westerns, tarantino, etc.
People seem to be able to appreciate the "heroes" in those. At least every dorm room poster ever would lead me to believe so.
? I appreciate Walt as a character A LOT, otherwise i wouldn't be watching the show, but i also aknowledge that he is the bad guy.
Same with GTA, i have fun playing it, but i don't think Tommy Vercetti is a hero.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I've only said that there is a spectrum of reaction to this show. Some have a kind of moral view which causes them to view Walt as a kind of inscrutable bad man who can't be trusted and is best for just gawking at and loathing, while others have tried to get inside his head and understand his reasoning. I've seen this dialogue go down again and again as I've clicked on this thread, and it's interesting, that's all. A testament to the storytelling.
As I see it, there are two main schools of thought:
1) Walt is an antihero who at first was simply in way over his head, but at this point, has come to revel in it. However, he is still basically a decent man at heart. He loves his son and wants things to be right with his wife, but he has come to love the rush he gets from the work so much that he won't leave it, especially since he has overcome all obstacles thus far and considers himself somewhat invincible. This might have dire ramifications at some point down the line, but for now, it's working.
2) Walt is an evil mass-murderering sociopath who cares for absolutely no one but himself and has become completely engulfed by his own ego. He is completely beyond redemption at this point.
I, and many others, adhere pretty strongly to #1. Amir0x, and a number of others, are hardcore #2.
1) Walt is an antihero who at first was simply in way over his head, but at this point, has come to revel in it. However, he is still basically a decent man at heart. He loves his son and wants things to be right with his wife, but he has come to love the rush he gets from the work so much that he won't leave it, especially since he has overcome all obstacles thus far and considers himself somewhat invincible. This might have dire ramifications at some point down the line, but for now, it's working.
2) Walt is an evil mass-murderering sociopath who cares for absolutely no one but himself and has become completely engulfed by his own ego. He is completely beyond redemption at this point.
I, and many others, adhere pretty strongly to #1. Amir0x, and a number of others, are hardcore #2.
blahblah...blah
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Jesus Christ, just name the show (in a spoiler tag!) I've seen all the FX shows I have any intention of seeing, and can't work out which one it would be.
EDIT: Also, speculation is as dangerous in this thread as it is in the GoT threads. In the GoT threads, loads of people who have read the books managed to accurately 'speculate' about very specific things. Here, given the entire season has been spoiled on 4chan, people could easily be doing the same thing, given how much everyone clamours to be 'vindicated' in this thread.
Trent Strong
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Good thing that bridge was exactly the right distance from that road so that the train car with the methlamine would be exactly in the place they needed it to be. And what was Walt's plan for bugging Hank's office exactly? Go to Hank's office, start crying about Skylar and... obviously Hank would shut the blinds and then go get Walt a cup of coffee? And it would take Hank a long time to get the coffee? Ridiculous episode. Maybe the worst episode they've ever made.
brianjones
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the heist was pretty ridiculous tbh but it still managed to be really tense anyway
3) Walt was a decent person with his flaws like many others, with a huge inferiority complex lurking inside him, let most people walk over him, accumulating an unhealty dose of frustration that blew up when he discovered he didn't had much to live.
From there he slowly but surely let his ego take over is decent, human side, cunsuming him away methodically, through countless moral rationalizations and excuses for his progressively more horrible actions that were, deeply, only motivated by his need to feel in control and empowered.
He has now lost almost any last shred of humanity and guilt, he is completely out of touch and is, yes, beyond redemption.
The Train was a plot device, like many others bofore that one, though i thought the same, a bit convenient.
From there he slowly but surely let his ego take over is decent, human side, cunsuming him away methodically, through countless moral rationalizations and excuses for his progressively more horrible actions that were, deeply, only motivated by his need to feel in control and empowered.
He has now lost almost any last shred of humanity and guilt, he is completely out of touch and is, yes, beyond redemption.
Hank is the macho guy who rejects the idea of males expressing emotions, Walt exploited that aspect of him, knowing that he would've done anything to avoid the embarassment of seeing a man cry and breakdown.
The Train was a plot device, like many others bofore that one, though i thought the same, a bit convenient.
A wizard did it.
Trent Strong
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Yeah, but still.
blahblah...blah
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While this opinion is obviously ridiculous (a. they make many contrived leaps in the show, you have to forgive that; b. I would say it's one of the best episodes they've done), the worst episode of Breaking Bad is still an excellent show, so your incorrect opinion is forgiven
Psychotext
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Walt's finger prints on the bugging device will be his downfall. Ridiculous oversight.
How would you do it differently?
Seriously, does everything on tv have to be hyper-analyzed for realism? Can't we just enjoy things a little bit and suspend belief?
Lol, seriously.
We're almost at the end though, so they HAVE to get to him somehow, at this point.
Trent Strong
Banned
OK. I'm overreacting. They've done a lot of unrealistic stuff in past episodes too.
See this is taking it a bit too far, IMO. Maybe he'll get there by season's end though.
Souless_PJ
Banned
True. I thought how would someone get identified in the database if they've never been arrested but then i remembered Walts fingerprints might be on file from that time he got pulled over by the state trooper about his broken windshield and got all lippy and Hank bailed him out. Might not find the bug in the picture but that device plugged into the Ethernet isn't exactly subtle.
Dominican Power
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I wonder if Jesse relapses.
TheVampire
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The kid had to go.
Souless_PJ
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In the prophetic words of Omar: The game's out there, and it's either play or get played. That simple.
Remember that Skylar is a fucking selfish lunatic and it's an expected overreaction from her. In fact she plays the victim card always and always ends up blaming the other person.
Skylar could have said to Walt that she'll be 'normal' but she won't let the kids stay with them AND she wouldn't launder the money but no she HAS to launder that money or else who else is going pay fucking Ted's hospital bills?
And this
hypocritical agreement she made seems like its fucking useless next week
captainraincoat
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omg...that ending
If the effect they wanted is sadness they sure as hell got it
If thats only halfway through the season then i cant imagine what the series finale will be like
I can so see Todd ending up as Walt's right hand now
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Exit wound was through the kids back by the looks of it...dont think he will be getting up though
If the effect they wanted is sadness they sure as hell got it
If thats only halfway through the season then i cant imagine what the series finale will be like
I can so see Todd ending up as Walt's right hand now
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Exit wound was through the kids back by the looks of it...dont think he will be getting up though
Last week, someone posted an .mp3 link to the Insider Podcast and I was able to play in in WMP instead of the web browser. Can someone do that again or at least tell me how to do that? I prefer listening to it that way but I cant find the mp3 link for the life of me.
I think the "you got what you wanted" line was referencing the fact that Walt Jr was home and not at Hank and Maries which is what Walt wanted.
I think the "you got what you wanted" line was referencing the fact that Walt Jr was home and not at Hank and Maries which is what Walt wanted.
..home safe.
tycoonheart
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If you think about it, there was no reason to kill the kid. The heist was over with. Where ever that train was headed, they wouldn't have found out the methylamine was missing. Just that it was diluted and like Walt said the blame would be placed on China. Todd didn't even have to kill the kid, just wave him good bye.
BenjaminBirdie
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You're basing your sense of morality on your average male 19 year old?
VeryGooster
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"Everyone is Meryl Streep with a gun to their heads" is my favorite line of the episode.
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