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[Kem0sabe]

Vanilla GW1 was a very small game in comparison and not even an actual MMO. It barely had PVE content and it's focus was on small scale instanced pvp matches. The comparison makes no sense.

Both are mmo´s, the implementation of the concept doesn´t change the fact that both are online persistent character rpg´s that allowed you to play with 1000´s of other people.

Doesnt the amount of instancing define what an mmo is? does a subscription?

The only fact i was alluding to was the success both games had, one was incredibly successful the other was not, despite the fact that it was larger, had countless voice overs and an apparently ridiculous amount of pve content.

 

[theMrCravens]

Both are mmo´s, the implementation of the concept doesn´t change the fact that both are online persistent character rpg´s that allowed you to play with 1000´s of other people.

Even Anet stated multiple times GW1 isn't an MMO.
I think it's even in their FAQ.

 

[Ferrio]

Both are mmo´s, the implementation of the concept doesn´t change the fact that both are online persistent character rpg´s that allowed you to play with 1000´s of other people.

Doesnt the amount of instancing define what an mmo is? does a subscription?

The only fact i was alluding to was the success both games had, one was incredibly successful the other was not, despite the fact that it was larger, had countless voice overs and an apparently ridiculous amount of pve content.

GW1 wasn't a MMO. Arenanet even didn't call it that.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Both are mmo´s, the implementation of the concept doesn´t change the fact that both are online persistent character rpg´s that allowed you to play with 1000´s of other people.

Doesnt the amount of instancing define what an mmo is? does a subscription?

The only fact i was alluding to was the success both games had, one was incredibly successful the other was not, despite the fact that it was larger, had countless voice overs and an apparently ridiculous amount of pve content.

You obviously never played GW1....

Anet themselves constantly have said GW1 is/was not a MMO even

 

[SalomonA]

Hey did you know GW1 isn't a mmo?!

 

[Mr. Luchador]

The more I read about Guardian the more I want to play. Should probably stop reading.

 

[Trey]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| it's an MMO

 

[BattleMonkey]

Hey did you know GW1 isn't a mmo?!

This could be the new name for the OT

Guild Wars 2 |OT| it's an MMO

Beaten like an ugly Asura

 

[Jira]

Technically speaking GW1 was a CORPG (co-operative online role playing game).

 

[inky]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| it's an MMO

Winner.

 

[Levyne]

I like that OT title.

 

[LumpOfCole]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Humans, Big Humans, Rats, Cats, and Salads

 

[Kem0sabe]

You obviously never played GW1....

Anet themselves constantly have said GW1 is/was not a MMO even

I played it, not as much as i would have liked. I think the term they (Anet) coined was CORPG, but thats just semantics.

Keep in mind that this is just my own opinion, but these last few years i couldn´t see any difference in how i played other mmo´s to GW1.

I spent my time in a hub with a lot of other players, where i bought stuff, traded stuff, crafted stuff and socialized, i formed groups and then i went on to complete instanced content with those groups, be it PVP or PVE.

That describes sitting in fleet looking for a group in TOR or sitting in a capital city using the group finder in WoW.

I see GW1 as a different kind of mmo from many others simply by the way they implement their systems, but in the end much of the players played the game much the same as they did other mmo´s.

Anyways, sorry to have started this pointless discussion, i think i´m still too pissed with TOR for my own good, ill refrain from commenting on it either in it´s OP or here.

 

[Emitan]

GW is an MMO in the same way Team Fortress 2 is.

 

[Hawkian]

Ha.

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Buy the game, suck ANet's dick forever (no subscription required)

This does do what I want and has community input...hmm.

Yay!

GW is an MMO in the same way Team Fortress 2 is.

Lol... that's a bit much.

Guild Wars is an MMO in the way that PSO and Diablo are(n't).

edit: also Borderlands

Probably some other games too.

Of course this is all semantics, but qualities that "true" MMOs should indeed possess:

-A (mostly) persistent world
-The ability to run into strangers out in the wilderness
-Massive scale in terms of player presence (dozens-hundreds onscreen in gameplay, not just in town)

All that said, GW blurred the line more than any non-MMO before.

 

[SalomonA]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| it's an MMO

+1

 

[Jack_AG]

Are we there yet? =(

Alright guys... I just got another shipment of insulin today chillin in my fridge... injecting all 5 pens at once should induce a coma until the 25th!

 

[Hawkian]

+1

That's actually just intriguing enough that it sort of implies the goals Jira is trying for while still being a bit coy.

 

[Proven]

GW is an MMO in the same way Team Fortress 2 is.

I wouldn't go that far either. Very, very close, but not that far.

Man vs. Machine is going to have to distract me for the last 10 days. TF2, you've been with me for years. Don't fail me now.

 

[Complistic]

I found tribes otherwise I think I would have gone insane by now.

 

[Arksy]

Haha. GW1 is taking up too much of my time recently. So close to 30/30! Just need to finish EoTN/NF.

 

[Hawkian]

Haha. GW1 is taking up too much of my time recently. So close to 30/30! Just need to finish EoTN/NF.

I'm so happy I'm just gonna make it to 15/30 by launch, lol

 

[Littlegator]

How many hours did you guys spend getting your GW1 -> GW2 items? Is it going to end when GW2 launches or can people farm for that stuff even at later time?

About 630 hours for 50/50 and GWAMM.

 

[Trey]

Sitting at 3/50. Feeling content with myself.

 

[Arksy]

200 for learning the game and 30/50.

Sitting at 3/50. Feeling content with myself.

Get to 6/30 for the entire armor set. Won't take long.

 

[Hawkian]

Stupid people going to gamescom get stupid special in-game stupid items.

 

[Budr]

So wheres the best place to pick up GW2 in the UK?

I would also like to know.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Stupid people going to gamescom get stupid special in-game stupid items.

Damn. Maybe I should drive there for a day. Then again, nah.

 

[Arksy]

Stupid people going to gamescom get stupid special in-game stupid items.

I hope it's not an exclusive never-to-be-seen-again item. That would somewhat upset me.

 

[Hackbert]

ughh.. i will be on the gamescom.. but i don´t use twitter. don´t know if i want to make an account and follow all these devs.. decisions decisions...

 

[Deleted member 10571]

ughh.. i will be on the gamescom.. but i don´t use twitter. don´t know if i want to make an account and follow all these devs.. decisions decisions...

How about i'll pm you the code when i see it and you get me one of those ingame thingies?

 

[Levito]

Guild Wars 1 was closer to being an MMO than NOT being one.

 

[epmode]

Guild Wars 1 was closer to being an MMO than NOT being one.

I just started playing GW1 for the first time and this is absolutely true. I'm not sure why it's such a controvercial statement!

 

[diffusionx]

Both are mmo´s, the implementation of the concept doesn´t change the fact that both are online persistent character rpg´s that allowed you to play with 1000´s of other people.

Doesnt the amount of instancing define what an mmo is? does a subscription?

It's really not much of an MMO. If you want to compare it to other MMOs - honestly it's pretty bad. I would say it's most similar to Diablo in structure, and that's not a MMO.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I just started playing GW1 for the first time and this is absolutely true. I'm not sure why it's such a controvercial statement!

It's not controversial, the creators themselves were clear on it themselves.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Woohoo my order just shipped! Should get it either tomorrow or on thursday, can't wait to play it!

 

[Laxan]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Humans, Big Humans, Rats, Cats, and Salads

Guild Wars 2 |OT| You Don't Make Friends With Sylvari

 

[Weltall Zero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJn9GhF8TI0

Guild wars 1, early on, looked pretty hilarious.

I dunno, for a team of six people even that looks impressive. To be fair, the video quality probably doesn't let me appreciate the suck.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

Is there an update to date Build Generator/Calculator online?

 

[Levito]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| You Don't Make Friends With Sylvari

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Now a packaged good


(Jira is the only one that will understand)

 

[Ultimatum]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Sraw Dliug

Since it's basically the opposite of GW1

 

[alazz]

Haha. GW1 is taking up too much of my time recently. So close to 30/30! Just need to finish EoTN/NF.

I stopped at 25 and I'm okay with that! It took me probably 400 hours from when I got EotN. I'll probably never put enough effort into GW1 again to get any more, but I'm not far away from at least two more points iirc. The only item that interests me beyond White Raven is the Golem mini-pet, though it's not worth my time.

Man vs. Machine is going to have to distract me for the last 10 days. TF2, you've been with me for years. Don't fail me now.

Yeah this should hold me over, and I should have all of my new PC parts in by tomorrow. Definitely a good week and a half.

 

[etiolate]

Nobody called Guild Wars a real MMO until all the MMOs ended up like Guild Wars. (Sitting in a town, waiting on group for an instance.)

 

[Tevos]

Guild Wars 2 |OT| Sraw Dliug

Since it's basically the opposite of GW1

I agree with this post.

 

[Jira]

Is there an update to date Build Generator/Calculator online?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fUMQNAR8dlcgKC33xKEf4ES2jVyARQLFDEAhpgAzIA

 

[BattleMonkey]

Nobody called Guild Wars a real MMO until all the MMOs ended up like Guild Wars. (Sitting in a town, waiting on group for an instance.)

So Guild wars invented end game! Now we know who to blame

 

[ComputerMKII]

Guild Wars 2 release tour in just two weeks! We'll be headed to Milan, Rome, Paris, and London. Wow, should be incredible!

https://www.facebook.com/DanielDociu/posts/360220900714377

See you in Paris.

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NCsoft Exec Matt Turetzky Explains How Guild Wars 2 Was Designed For Every Gamer

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngau...ow-guild-wars-2-was-designed-for-every-gamer/

 

[ROBOKITTYZILLA]

n/m

 

[fluffydelusions]

Nah, I just want it to be 25 already.

Same. I just want to play and not have to have my toon wiped lol

 

[etiolate]

Forbes sure loves themselves the gw2.

Guild Wars 2 |OT| I swear officer, that fern told me she was 25.