There's a difference between pub games and pro games. Just because you've shut him down easily in your matches doesn't make it true.
Where's 1.09 when you need him.
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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]
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There's a difference between pub games and pro games. Just because you've shut him down easily in your matches doesn't make it true.
Where's 1.09 when you need him.
Train of Midnight
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I definitely understand why Lycan is banned in almost all pro games, but my original amusement was caused by the notion of Lycan being an insta-win in matchmaking games.
And indeed the suggestion is laughable.
And indeed the suggestion is laughable.
have you ever been told you have the worst ideas ever? If need be, I can explain why this is a bad idea.
The leveling system was added in the hats update. Everyone started at level 1, but wins weren't reset.
Instant win? No.
Extraordinarily easy to exploit his advantages in matchmaking all the way to the tippy top of very high tier? Oh yes. He's far more potent in matchmaking than he is in pro games.
And here in lies the main 'problem' with DOTA balancing. Its balanced for high-tier/competitive play.
Has its pro's and con's though. One of the con's being some heroes are easier to stomp with in low level play. Probably gets worse the lower you get too, when you get people not understanding all the heroes skills and stuff (bloodseeker ulti).
I prefer it to LoL's balancing, which seems to try to balance pub and competitive play and fails at balancing the game for either level. ALso too many kneejerk nerf reactions.
This problem still exists in HoN, DotA 1, and I expect most other MOBA/ARTS games. It's mostly the nature of the game, some heroes are just easier to stomp with than others.
I stomp with Puck. Puck is win button in low bracket.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Schweinehund
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Nobody literally thinks any hero is instant win, its hyperbole. Lycan is just among a group of heroes who are easy to succeed with in pubs (fuck you invoker, fuck you and your stupid icewall piece of shit cold snap shadow fiend level early game damage).
I've come across my fair share of bad lycans.
I've come across my fair share of bad lycans.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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I'm definitely one of them, heh. My only really guaranteed win (unless the team synergy is completely fubar) "pub stomping" hero is Riki (I'm not calling him a pub stomper, but I have a much higher win rate when using him). He's the only hero I can play confidently (aside from BH, sorta). Otherwise... its usually 50/50 for me.
SteveWinwood
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Turned it off after 30 seconds.
I have a pretty enormous win rate with Riki. He's pretty good in pubs, especially since he does SO much damage with so little items if you max backstab first (which you should). Can solo gang people everywhere. Usually I pick him when they have a jungler since it means easy pickoffs.
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Naga is queen of dota. Undefeatable if played right.
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which hero can still win if your team feeds though
Schweinehund
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The problem I see with lycans in pubs is that they don't understand what the hero does exactly. Its not that they're getting the wrong items or jungling wrong, they just try to gank the sidelane constantly, even if the lane doesn't have any strong stuns or slows. Later on they focus on team fighting. His true strength is just making the other team pay for every single thing they do by taking towers.
That being said its time to rant about pubs. I honestly have no idea what goes through people's minds when they blame other players for their loss, when they utterly fail in the picking phase by doing stupid lanes, like solo suicide lane undying. That carry getting free farm? Thats what wins games. Not the wr that misses shackle shot most of the time, not your mid not ganking, its stupid lanes that have no real merit to them.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah what the eff
Same, except I'm not connecting, I'm looking at a message about connecting
Same, was for my 200th win too ><
Like2Drive
Banned
Where you having the one where notification about towers destroyed, recipes bought...etc on the right side of the screen wouldn't appear?
yo fckn hongaf wen i first play riki in dota 2 like 1 year ago i did this and they laugh at me and i told them to fck off because this was pro build
I didn't get that one
JakkuFurosu
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man...I wanted to get one more game (read:loss) in b4 bed.
Can I join as a 5th after this game? Steam is same as my name.
We're five now :/ Sorry. I usually query the mumble channel for players. If you just chill in the Heroes of Dota channel, you'll get picked up.
Playing some LCD soundsystem now: http://www.justin.tv/kapura
Mana boots into force staff or drums (or both), then point booster into agha or bloodstone I suppose. BKB if you need immunity. Then I'd get a disable, probably sheep. If you want more nuke damage and are farming well you can go refresher in order to immediately tip teamfights in your favor with double global nuke. I wouldnt do this without an aghanims though.
Schweinehund
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If you're doing ok, aim for a eul's or force staff, or try to help with wards/mek.
If you're doing really good go for sheepstick, refresher orb, or aghanims. Refresher orb should be a second item, its hard to use with a low mana pool. Bloodstone is also possible.
Hey now that's being very generous.
Train of Midnight
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Hahahaha. That's fucking awesome.
If your that no pause Steve guy well then that's expected of you as you have the attention span of a goldfish's memory.
SteveWinwood
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hold up what
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