• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Magic: The Gathering |OT|

Status
Not open for further replies.
Wow, what an idiot. I mean, what a stupid thing to do in the first place (stealing from where you work) but all he had to do was make a new Paypal account with a different name and have it attached to someone else's bank account and not suddenly influx eBay with 50 Bonfires and it probably wouldn't have been so obvious.
 
Wow, what an idiot. I mean, what a stupid thing to do in the first place (stealing from where you work) but all he had to do was make a new Paypal account with a different name and have it attached to someone else's bank account and not suddenly influx eBay with 50 Bonfires and it probably wouldn't have been so obvious.
I'm really, really glad they outed all this publicly. Protects the community.
 
Proof positive that nerds can be some of the dumbest people on earth. Yeah, they won't notice 50 of the most expensive cards in the most popular format missing.
 
Based on tweets from some people, this has been brewing for a few weeks now. I am pretty surprised that they came out and said exactly what he had done- while it is good for the community, it does open them up to a defamation lawsuit- there is no way TSG can get work in the Magic community/ selling cards after that article was published.

Oh, and it looks like he is going to be Chris Benoit'd. Most episodes of Magic TV on youtube have been switched to private, and all of his videos hosted on CFB.com have been taken down.
 
Based on tweets from some people, this has been brewing for a few weeks now. I am pretty surprised that they came out and said exactly what he had done- while it is good for the community, it does open them up to a defamation lawsuit- there is no way TSG can get work in the Magic community/ selling cards after that article was published.

Oh, and it looks like he is going to be Chris Benoit'd. Most episodes of Magic TV on youtube have been switched to private, and all of his videos hosted on CFB.com have been taken down.
They made no allegations- they just stated facts. Sperling's a lawyer and likely made sure they crossed their Ts and such there.
 
Made a mill/control-shell. Standard. Thoughts?

4 Fog Bank
4 Ponder
4 Thought Scour
4 Mind Sculpt
4 Mana Leak
4 Negate
4 Unsummon
3 Jace M12/M13
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Devastation Tide
2 Nihil Spellbomb

14 Islands
4 Drowned Catacombs
3 Nephilia Drownyard

This is pretty decent i like the balance between control & mill but I'm wondering if its effective enough being split between the two. I've got a pure mill deck, minus Traumatize unfortunately :(

4 Jace's Phantasm
4 Mind Sculpt
4 Tome Scour
3 Æther Adept
3 Fog Bank
3 Curse of the Bloody Tome
2 Jace M12/M13
3 Kraken Hatchling
2 Thought Scour
2 Visions of Beyond
2 Increasin Confusion
1 Cryptoplasm
2 Sands of Time
1 Runechanter's Pike
1 Keening Stone
23 Islands

And 2 Tormod's Crypt as the sideboard, just in case. I think yours is better with the control elements
 
This is pretty decent i like the balance between control & mill but I'm wondering if its effective enough being split between the two. I've got a pure mill deck, minus Traumatize unfortunately :(

4 Jace's Phantasm
4 Mind Sculpt
4 Tome Scour
3 Æther Adept
3 Fog Bank
3 Curse of the Bloody Tome
2 Jace M12/M13
3 Kraken Hatchling
2 Thought Scour
2 Visions of Beyond
2 Increasin Confusion
1 Cryptoplasm
2 Sands of Time
1 Runechanter's Pike
1 Keening Stone
23 Islands

And 2 Tormod's Crypt as the sideboard, just in case. I think yours is better with the control elements

I like your list as well. A friend actually reminded me about Increasing Confusion today and I realized I don't know where any of mine are haha I wish Tome Scour was standard legal :(

Also, I have no Sands of Time. I should get some.
 
Made a mill/control-shell. Standard. Thoughts?

4 Fog Bank
4 Ponder
4 Thought Scour
4 Mind Sculpt
4 Mana Leak
4 Negate
4 Unsummon
3 Jace M12/M13
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Devastation Tide
2 Nihil Spellbomb

14 Islands
4 Drowned Catacombs
3 Nephilia Drownyard

I think I like Tamiyo here. If you can successfully protect her behind fog banks, unsummons, chump-blocking Snapcasters, and her own +1 long enough to go ultimate, you can shotgun Thought Scours and Mind Sculpts as another win condition.

I'm also not convinced I don't like UW better than UB here. You lose access to Nephalia Drownyard and drawing off of Spellbomb, but you would gain access to Feeling of Dread, Oblivion Ring, and Day of Judgement if you really wanted it. Considering that your Fog Banks are going to eat removal fairly quickly, you'll probably want something a little sturdier than Unsummon to protect yourself and your planeswalkers. You would also get Celestial Purge in the board for pesky zombies.
 
I think I like Tamiyo here. If you can successfully protect her behind fog banks, unsummons, chump-blocking Snapcasters, and her own +1 long enough to go ultimate, you can shotgun Thought Scours and Mind Sculpts as another win condition.

I'm also not convinced I don't like UW better than UB here. You lose access to Nephalia Drownyard and drawing off of Spellbomb, but you would gain access to Feeling of Dread, Oblivion Ring, and Day of Judgement if you really wanted it. Considering that your Fog Banks are going to eat removal fairly quickly, you'll probably want something a little sturdier than Unsummon to protect yourself and your planeswalkers. You would also get Celestial Purge in the board for pesky zombies.

Good points, all. Devastation Tide was supposed to fill the board-clear spot. The Tamiyo idea is especially solid, though. I think that might have to happen.
 
Good points, all. Devastation Tide was supposed to fill the board-clear spot. The Tamiyo idea is especially solid, though. I think that might have to happen.

Devastation Tide is awkward because it hits your planeswalkers too. Day of Judgement might hit your Fog Banks, but it keeps the walkers alive.

You also get to run Gideon Jura if you're in white, which might be the perfect thing for your deck. Of course, we're now talking about three different 5cc walkers, which is a little awkward.
 
Welp, applied to WotC. Planning for my exit from the military. Wish me luck!

..although, maybe I should just apply to Channel Fireball. Heard they have an opening.
 
Good points, all. Devastation Tide was supposed to fill the board-clear spot. The Tamiyo idea is especially solid, though. I think that might have to happen.

Devastation Tide is awkward because it hits your planeswalkers too. Day of Judgement might hit your Fog Banks, but it keeps the walkers alive.

So I ran the UW modification to your build I proposed tonight in the casual room on MTGO for a bit. It actually performed quite well, although it created a lot of early rage quits in situations where I wasn't convinced I had actually locked up the board. Feeling of Dread, Oblivion Ring, and Terminus (I have four of these but no DoJs; go figure) were instrumental in the games I won. That being said, I dumped Mana Leak, Negate, and Devastation Tide to make it fit, and I definitely found myself wishing I had some sort of counter magic (probably go with some split between Dissipate and Negate).

I'm interested in trying the UB build, but that'll have to wait for tomorrow.
 
Welp, applied to WotC. Planning for my exit from the military. Wish me luck!

..although, maybe I should just apply to Channel Fireball. Heard they have an opening.
Good luck, man! May I ask what position you're applying for? I'm hoping to get in on the next designer search, personally.
Looking at that history, sadly, I doubt it.
Yeah, I was seeing quite a few M13 stuff for sale, so it didn't look like this guy was going to stop anytime soon. I wonder if he thought that they just wouldn't notice?
 
Good luck, man! May I ask what position you're applying for? I'm hoping to get in on the next designer search, personally.
Yeah, my problem is that I've figured out that I'm much more suited for the Development side (I'm not a "creative" type, so I work better at helping someone refine and implement a vision, rather than being a visionary myself), but it's much much harder to get a Dev spot since they know who they want to hire (and I'm not cut out for a column to "advertise" myself with.)
 
Good luck, man! May I ask what position you're applying for? I'm hoping to get in on the next designer search, personally.

Yeah, I was seeing quite a few M13 stuff for sale, so it didn't look like this guy was going to stop anytime soon. I wonder if he thought that they just wouldn't notice?

Customer service position, hoping my strong marketing background/military service will give me an edge into getting involved in their marketing department. I am so very not qualified to be a designer - but I have nearly a decade of marketing experience.

And no way was that guy going to stop stealing. He had other problems...drugs, gambling, mistress...something. You don't just give up a job playing and talking about games for a living for nothing.
 
Yeah, my problem is that I've figured out that I'm much more suited for the Development side (I'm not a "creative" type, so I work better at helping someone refine and implement a vision, rather than being a visionary myself), but it's much much harder to get a Dev spot since they know who they want to hire (and I'm not cut out for a column to "advertise" myself with.)
I'm really not sure how good my card design skills are, and sadly the GAF design thread sorta died, so I wasn't able to get a lot of feedback on my submissions. It seemed like a few folks liked some of my cards at the very least.

And don't they recruit for Development out of the top players? You could start tearing it up on the Pro Tours and Star City Opens and hope to get noticed there! (Easier said that done, of course)

Customer service position, hoping my strong marketing background/military service will give me an edge into getting involved in their marketing department. I am so very not qualified to be a designer - but I have nearly a decade of marketing experience.

And no way was that guy going to stop stealing. He had other problems...drugs, gambling, mistress...something. You don't just give up a job playing and talking about games for a living for nothing.
Ah, gotcha. I'm currently working in marketing for a local apartment complex, so after you land that sweet gig at Wizards, you should totally hook a fellow gaffer up, haha.

And wow, had no idea he had all those other problems, but it makes a bit more sense why he took those risks.
 
Whoa

http://www.channelfireball.com/home/announcement-regarding-tristan-shaun-gregson/

I guess this explains why its been a few weeks since we have had a new Magic TV....

Awww WTF TSG? Was that really worth it? You're getting married soon, I know weddings are expensive but you don't do shit like that :\

Based on LSV's post it looks like Martell and Sperling will handle Magic TV as well as LSV doing some stuff in Denver with Conley.

Honestly, you could just give me Conley 24/7. Every time he says "Bad News Bears" or "Woof" instead of Wolf or when he sings I giggle like a schoolgirl.
 
And don't they recruit for Development out of the top players? You could start tearing it up on the Pro Tours and Star City Opens and hope to get noticed there! (Easier said that done, of course)
I think the philosophy's changed (in a good way.) Gavin, Billy and Sam all got picked up, and the problem is that although someone may be very good at breaking a system, they may not be very good at designing that system.

It's sort of like how you wouldn't want to put the world's best day traders as the board of governors for the Federal Reserve- the skill sets overlap, but they're vastly different.
 
Customer service position, hoping my strong marketing background/military service will give me an edge into getting involved in their marketing department. I am so very not qualified to be a designer - but I have nearly a decade of marketing experience.

And no way was that guy going to stop stealing. He had other problems...drugs, gambling, mistress...something. You don't just give up a job playing and talking about games for a living for nothing.

Best of luck to you man, hope you get the job!

And that's a shame about the thefts at CFB :( After checking my ebay history, one of my most prized playsets is from eldraziseller...
 
And wow, had no idea he had all those other problems, but it makes a bit more sense why he took those risks.

Not saying he did...but that usually ends up being the case when something out of the blue like this happens. Or, he's just incredibly pompous and thought he was smarter than the collective rest of CF.

Who knows.
 
Not saying he did...but that usually ends up being the case when something out of the blue like this happens. Or, he's just incredibly pompous and thought he was smarter than the collective rest of CF.

Who knows.

I know you won't be anywhere related to that department, but when (not if, WHEN YO! WHEN!) you get the job at WoTC, find a way to get Phil and Kaja to do art again. I don't care how, do it :D
 
Good luck WW, I'm looking forward to your inevitable Zombie themed block.
 
So I ran the UW modification to your build I proposed tonight in the casual room on MTGO for a bit. It actually performed quite well, although it created a lot of early rage quits in situations where I wasn't convinced I had actually locked up the board. Feeling of Dread, Oblivion Ring, and Terminus (I have four of these but no DoJs; go figure) were instrumental in the games I won. That being said, I dumped Mana Leak, Negate, and Devastation Tide to make it fit, and I definitely found myself wishing I had some sort of counter magic (probably go with some split between Dissipate and Negate).

I'm interested in trying the UB build, but that'll have to wait for tomorrow.

I love when people rage quit. It's fulfilling. Glad to see it's performing.

What was the decklist you used?'

Edit: You think Terminus might be a good fit over the Tide when going UW?
 
I love when people rage quit. It's fulfilling. Glad to see it's performing.

What was the decklist you used?'

Edit: You think Terminus might be a good fit over the Tide when going UW?

Terminus is the bane of aggros decks everywhere. Tide is a minor annoyance.

And, Ven, you crack me up. *brofist*
 
I love when people rage quit. It's fulfilling. Glad to see it's performing.

What was the decklist you used?'

Edit: You think Terminus might be a good fit over the Tide when going UW?


personally I would definitely take Terminus, it's a pain in the ass when playing against..
 
Magic-GAF: Going to my first competitive EDH tournament tonight. Nervous, my deck isn't finished. Here's what I'm bringing, and what it does:


http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1038173

The deck is a little slow for combo thanks to the lack of 1-drops capable of getting animar out on turn 2; I feel like Elvish Spirit Gude & Simian Spirit guide could speed the deck up a turn, but they're dead draws unless my hand is already kind of nutty.

I'm only running two cards capable of powering out a turn 2 animar, and trying to think of what I can do to add a third (arbor elf).

For those of you who don't know, here's how the deck functions (the main combo):


t1: mana accel (if possible; if not, delay the combo a turn)
t2: Play animar.
t3: Use a combination of untappers/mana-neutral creatures (deceiver exarch, wood elves, peregrine drake, palinchron, metamorph etc) and bounce (man 'o war, venser, aether adept, shrieking drake, etc) to put an absurdly large number of counters on animar. You may now draw a large portion of your deck by repeatedly bouncing replacement creatures if you don't have a way of ending the game (mulldrifter, sea gate, elvish visionary), or just sit back and tutor for anything to end the game: palinchron always does it, primeval titan usually can, and tidespout tyrant makes people wet their pants.

If you draw into Time Warp/Stretch/Temporal/Walk, you can cast one, and tutor up a chronarch (inf. with riptide), witness (inf. with curio/shard/basically everything), or mnemonic wall. Hold back your bounce effects. Use them to take 3+ turns in a row, kill an opponent, and hope to draw into an infinite.

4: Did you not draw any of the tutors, combo enablers, sifters, or pieces of time magic in your deck, despite half the deck being these? Sucks. Keep casting shrieking drake/man 'o war/whatever, hope Animar doesn't die, and try to win via aggro.

Otherwise, win the game in any of the ways stated on turn 3.






Here's a very incomplete list of the win conditions/infinite combos:



Birthing Pod + Time Warp effects + any creature.
The pod chain is set up such that you can keep podding into Izzet Chronarch effects turn after turn, then pod into creatures capable of bouncing said effects. While this isn't technically infinite, it's very easily tutorable, fast, and hard to predict.

Time Warp effects + One of the following: (Cloudstone Curio, Tidespout Tyrant, Crystal Shard, or Riptide Laboratory if card 3 is a wizard or you have a bounce wizard) + one of the following: (Eternal Witness, Mnemonic Wall, Izzet Chronarch, Archeomancer)
Pretty self-explanatory. It's slow and you need a -ton- of mana to do it, but with Primeval Titan tutorable in most games, it still comes up pretty often.


Imperial Recruiter.

Yes, that is the only non-general card you need.

Play imperial recruiter grabbing phyrexian metamorph. Cast metamorph copying recruiters, grabbing shrieking drake. Cast shrieking drake (you now have three counters on animar and metamorph is free) bouncing metamorph. Cast metamorph copying shrieking drake until animar is large enough to kill your opponent, and then cast it again to kill their general. Attack for lethal.

This can happen on turn 3, and is best suited for 1v1 play.

Aluren + any 3cc or less bounce creature

This is the only turn 2 infinite in the deck. You play aluren, then animar for free, then infinite man-o'-war or whatever. It's powerful but incredibly unlikely; also, I don't run enchantment tutoring.

Shrieking Drake

Gives you the ability to pay U in order to put a counter on animar. Not powerful, but when you consider how useful shrieking drake is in other combos, it is a -fantastic- backup plan.


Palinchron + animar at 3+ counters (if you don't otherwise have the mana) + 4 or more islands in play

Generates infinite mana & power for animar.

Cloudstone Curio + any two non-artifact mana-neutral creatures.

This could give you anything from just near-infinite counters (deceiver exarch & wood elves) to infinite mana (peregrine drake + anything)

Intuition
If there's only one other person in the game, name:

Academy Ruins
Mindslaver
Life from the Loam

and you have just won the game via infinite lock.


If you're low on mana and the game has just begun, name your three targets as:


Utility land (usually cradle)
Fetchland (usually rainforest)
Life from the Loam

You will never miss a land drop for the rest of the game, you just tutored a nonbasic, and you can infinitely recur strip mine if you wanna be a dick.

My favorite, and the most common:

Tidespout Tyrant + Basically Anything + Animar

Mana crypt, mana vault, simulacrum, sol ring, top, expedition map, ULAMOG, wood elves, exarch.....

I'd say there's close to twenty cards in the deck Tidespout can go infinite off of. He's completely nuts in here, and although expensive, he can come out on turn 4 with the fixing/accell in this deck. Best part is, he's VERY often underrated. In games with early interruption, I will commonly cast a Concecrated Sphinx of Primeval Titan unnecessarily to serve as a kill-target, as many players have never seen a tidespout hit the field.

Imma stop for now, because you get the point, but there's 10+ more where that came from. They're just easier to see.



Please let me know if you think of any improvements. The following cards are currently not in the deck due to cost concerns:

Volcanic Island
Taiga
the RU shockland
any onslaught fetches I'm missing
Temporal Manipulation
Capture of Jingzhou
Loyal Retainer
 
I finally got Magic Online. I can't afford any cards right now, but I'm messing around in the new player phantom drafts and it's actually pretty damn fun. I'm gonna try to build mono green infect for standard dailies when I get some cash.
 
I finally got Magic Online. I can't afford any cards right now, but I'm messing around in the new player phantom drafts and it's actually pretty damn fun. I'm gonna try to build mono green infect for standard dailies when I get some cash.

If you are on a budget isn't infect something you'd want to avoid less than 2 months from rotation?
 
Okay, we need to seriously do this.

If you have a MTGO account, and would like to join our clan, post your MTGO name and quote this. We can help pass on cards to new players, try our jank decks against non-assholes, practice for tournaments, trade, etc, etc, etc.

Magic: The Gathering Online GAF

GAF: WanderingWind
MTGO: WanderingWind

GAF:
MTGO:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom