Counter-Strike: Global Offensive official site is live (kinda), beta starting today

rCIZZLE said:
But calling people newbs for spraying, even improperly, is wrong. Eventually they'll start compensating for recoil until they can do stuff like HeatoN. :P
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I agree completely. Rather than calling them newbs, help people understand what to look for when spraying.

Around 5 years ago, I was on a team with a guy in source for a year and a half. He could never spray well at all, and I always wondered why he'd let the team down in scrims. Just couldn't do it.

Just recently I was talking with him, he got GO:Beta. He was like: I never knew about recoil until I started playing GO and people were talking about spray patterns.

Eveything clicked into place about why that team was so shitty way back in the day.
 
lastflowers said:
I agree completely. Rather than calling them newbs, help people understand what to look for when spraying.

Around 5 years ago, I was on a team with a guy in source for a year and a half. He could never spray well at all, and I always wondered why he'd let the team down in scrims. Just couldn't do it.

Just recently I was talking with him, he got GO:Beta. He was like: I never knew about recoil until I started playing GO and people were talking about spray patterns.

Eveything clicked into place about why that team was so shitty way back in the day.
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How did he not know about recoil? That's one of the most basic and obvious components of the game! That doesn't make any sense how do you play for that long and not notice
 
got to love the new option to change the viewmodel in the settings. thought i would get used to the new cs:go model, but man oh man is the classic 1.6 model good. also the updates they have done recently is god like. like the mussel flash, hit marks, the flashing of money when you kill someone and
the deagle flip <3

rCIZZLE said:
But calling people newbs for spraying, even improperly, is wrong. Eventually they'll start compensating for recoil until they can do stuff like HeatoN. :P
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but that is the definition of newbs :p new players how havent learned how to play. i know they probably get better, but everyone has been a noob at some point.
 
Casual is 10 vs 10? Seems a bit overkill.
Game improved quite a bit since I last played the beta. I may actually end up buying it.
 
I have an annoying HUD 'font' size bug. It suddenly got bigger: the top scoreboard, the kill indicators, health and armor boxes etc. have this 'blow-up' look. And every round some of it changes back to the original size. One round the score indicator is in regular size while others section are enlarged; the next round some other element is normal but others aren't.

I suspected this was because i changed the subtitle display size in VLC player but i've reverted it but the issue remains.
 
shagg_187 said:
6 vs 6 is default. Anything more is player servers.
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5v5*

Saty said:
I have an annoying HUD 'font' size bug. It suddenly got bigger: the top scoreboard, the kill indicators, health and armor boxes etc. have this 'blow-up' look. And every round some of it changes back to the original size. One round the score indicator is in regular size while others section are enlarged; the next round some other element is normal but others aren't.

I suspected this was because i changed the subtitle display size in VLC player but i've reverted it but the issue remains.
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I'm having this bug as well, and I have not messed around with VLC lately. It's the game's fault, not yours.
 
KingKong said:
you mean 5v5 but nope, casual now joins large servers on matchmake and for some reason it has alltalk on. it's dumb as hell
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Casual mode is casual. A lot of casual players prefer larger servers. If you want more traditional settings with Casual mode on I'm sure there are a ton of them in the server browser.
 
Amish said:
but that is the definition of newbs :p new players how havent learned how to play. i know they probably get better, but everyone has been a noob at some point.
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It doesn't matter if they're new. Spraying has nothing to do with being new to the game.

TheExodu5 said:
It was more detrimental than useful, even if it was viable. There are times when it can be more beneficial to spray, but those are few and far between.
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lol wrong
 
Okay guys, forgive my ignorance, but what's so different about CS:S and CS:GO? It just looks like CS:S with a little bit better graphics. Is there anything else noticably different?
 
rCIZZLE said:
lol wrong
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Nope.

You can learn to use spray patterns in a semi efficient manner, but there's still a level of unpredictability to it. Sorry, but even the top players cannot hit all of their bullets while spraying. A well placed burst to the head is preferable, unless you're facing several players at close range.

This, of course, is with regards to the AK or M4. With an MP5 you can spray all day.
 
Feature said:
Okay guys, forgive my ignorance, but what's so different about CS:S and CS:GO? It just looks like CS:S with a little bit better graphics. Is there anything else noticably different?
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On the surface, it may look like a simple graphics overhaul, but it's more complex than that. Guns, recoil, new factions, map changes, new game modes, etc. are all new/changed.

TheExodu5 said:
Hitboxes
Some different weapons and equipments
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Yeah, these as well. Hitboxes have been tweaked, molotovs/incendiary grenades, Zeus x27 have been added.
 
I played cs from the first alpha to like cs 1. something and was on a long break from gaming when CS:S was out. Its spooky to be away from something so long and instantly know all the maps. The buy menu is very bad I guess I will need to bind those keys if I continue to play this. Headshot seem very easy to get compared to past as the head model just seems bigger but maybe I'm just remembering it wrong. I also don't care for how they do the scoped weapons it...it just feels off. Now sure what it is. Now they just need to redo DOD.
 
Akey said:
I played cs from the first alpha to like cs 1. something and was on a long break from gaming when CS:S was out. Its spooky to be away from something so long and instantly know all the maps. The buy menu is very bad I guess I will need to bind those keys if I continue to play this. Headshot seem very easy to get compared to past as the head model just seems bigger but maybe I'm just remembering it wrong. I also don't care for how they do the scoped weapons it...it just feels off. Now sure what it is. Now they just need to redo DOD.
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Day of Defeat: European Offensive.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Nope.

You can learn to use spray patterns in a semi efficient manner, but there's still a level of unpredictability to it. Sorry, but even the top players cannot hit all of their bullets while spraying. A well placed burst to the head is preferable, unless you're facing several players at close range.

This, of course, is with regards to the AK or M4. With an MP5 you can spray all day.
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Spraying is an essential skill that you'll need often unless you only awp. Even then on save rounds you might pick up a rifle and you'll need to know how to use it. Spraying isn't about hitting all your bullets, it's about using a method that's more efficient than burst, stop, burst against multiple opponents.

What do you do on CT side when they're save rushing for a bomb plant? How about when another enemy peeks when you're bursting a single enemy? Or when you're trying to retake a site and you don't have time to work picks?

I guess if someone is content with doing the bare minimum to hold a positive k/d in a pub then they can get away with not spraying. For everybody who wanted to get out of open in cs 1.6 had better learn it... unless they're fr0d lol.
 
Feature said:
Would you guys say it's closer to 1.6 again? (which was the best CS ever).
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I have played 1.5 and 1.6 for years, Source for a while and yes, this definitely screams 1.6 on the surface. Especially the movements. The game is not 1.6 v2, though. It is more like the stepchild of 1.6 and Source. It can and it should stand on it is own though, as it is more accessible, which is a fringe word anyway if you still play 1.6 on your preferred hardcore server along with your friends. So this is trying to build on a nostalgic user base, hoping that they estabilish a new, active one.

Which would be awesome, btw.
 
rCIZZLE said:
Spraying is an essential skill that you'll need often unless you only awp. Even then on save rounds you might pick up a rifle and you'll need to know how to use it. Spraying isn't about hitting all your bullets, it's about using a method that's more efficient than burst, stop, burst against multiple opponents.

What do you do on CT side when they're save rushing for a bomb plant? How about when another enemy peeks when you're bursting a single enemy? Or when you're trying to retake a site and you don't have time to work picks?

I guess if someone is content with doing the bare minimum to hold a positive k/d in a pub then they can get away with not spraying. For everybody who wanted to get out of open in cs 1.6 had better learn it... unless they're fr0d lol.
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How does that change what I said?

Most people that spray do so when they shouldn't. That is my only point here.

And come on...no one learns how to burst properly without learning how to spray. That kind of comes naturally.
 
TheExodu5 said:
How does that change what I said?
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That times when spraying is better, or even viable, are "few and far between". Even if bursting at a long distance is preferable you need to know how to control spray eventually and associating it with being a "newb" is wrong.

And come on...no one learns how to burst properly without learning how to spray. That kind of comes naturally.
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Bursting is easier. Compensating for 1-2 recoil bullets is a lot easier than 10-15+. At least with 1.6 as my source experience is pretty limited.
 
This is probably the weirdest/stupidest question - but can you spraypaint a picture, like how you can in TF2, in CS:GO?

I thought that was pretty funny at times, when people sprayed funny pics and memes.
 
rCIZZLE said:
That times when spraying is better, or even viable, are "few and far between". Even if bursting at a long distance is preferable you need to know how to control spray eventually and associating it with being a "newb" is wrong.



Bursting is easier. Compensating for 1-2 recoil bullets is a lot easier than 10-15+. At least with 1.6 as my source experience is pretty limited.
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Spray is really important in CS 1.6, I don't know anyone who would say otherwise (competitive 1.6 players). It's situational but it's not infrequently used or anything. It's a must have skill to be a really good player.

That said, CS:GO spray seems to be less forgiving of moving while spraying than 1.6 was. In CS:GO spray is easier to control if you're just standing still and shooting at a wall but you can't strafe and spray at close ranges like you could in 1.6. That's one of my initial impressions.
 
Hey guys, I got a few questions.

Is this beta the full game? Meaning it has all the official maps already?
Is there a way to have more than 5 vs 5 in the beta?
I can't seem to find any servers to join except for the auto join random server types, is that just for the beta?

Thanks.
 
Ducking appears to keep your accuracy extremely high instead of resetting it like in 1.6... still can't really tell where bullets are going, the fog is still a stupid design decision.

Valves reasoning boils down to "because we made each map too busy for the eyes we want to compensate by adding FOG!"
 
Druz said:
Ducking appears to keep your accuracy extremely high instead of resetting it like in 1.6... still can't really tell where bullets are going, the fog is still a stupid design decision.

Valves reasoning boils down to "because we made each map too busy for the eyes we want to compensate by adding FOG!"
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Yeah it seems like a quick fix job, if everything looks too busy that just a bad design choice with the textures etc. (anyone else feel like it's harder to spot the enemy on some maps because of the clothing? the clothing is definitely more obvious in source)
 
TouchMyBox said:
If 120Hz is the standard you're comparing TF2 to, then you're right.

If you're talking 60 FPS however, then you have either never seen TF2 on a computer made in the last four years, or never bothered to turn on multi-core rendering.
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I have a mid generation Core2Quad @2.4ghz and a GTX 460 and TF2 runs like a ballsack stuck to a leather seat regardless of what settings I change it to. I spent some months doing data mining and back and forth emails with robin walker himself trying to solve what the problem was and we both ended up completely stumped. I easily run the game in the 300FPS range in spawn rooms filled with teammates, but as soon as I step out onto the stage? 45FPS down to 15 at the worst set of explosions and insanity.

TF2 is possibly the worst optimized Source game I have ever played, and it will pretty much always remain that way. For comparison I run all others at a steady above 60FPS clip and never see frame dips no matter what kind of shit is going on.
 
Got it yesterday night. I'm playing on my laptop with integrated graphics, so really low FPS on low res and settings for me, but I thought it was pretty fun even then. I like how GunGame is built in. The buy menu is pretty annoying but I'll get used to it. I'm surprised at how so many of the weapons are actually useful.
 
spk said:
How did he not know about recoil? That's one of the most basic and obvious components of the game! That doesn't make any sense how do you play for that long and not notice
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Holy shit. Big error on my part. Didn't know about the spray patterns, not recoil.
 
CheesecakeRecipe said:
I have a mid generation Core2Quad @2.4ghz and a GTX 460 and TF2 runs like a ballsack stuck to a leather seat regardless of what settings I change it to. I spent some months doing data mining and back and forth emails with robin walker himself trying to solve what the problem was and we both ended up completely stumped. I easily run the game in the 300FPS range in spawn rooms filled with teammates, but as soon as I step out onto the stage? 45FPS down to 15 at the worst set of explosions and insanity.

TF2 is possibly the worst optimized Source game I have ever played, and it will pretty much always remain that way. For comparison I run all others at a steady above 60FPS clip and never see frame dips no matter what kind of shit is going on.
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OK this is most likely not the fix and I may sound stupid, but I've had similar problem with games in the past (especialy the witcher 2) until I changed one setting.

Assuming you have windows 7, right click desktop, go to personalize, then click screensaver, then click power setting, then if it's not on "high performance" then change it to that, probably not the problem, but worth a shot haha.

You probably already know about this, but I was suprised when I missed something so obvious as this lol.
 
Persona86 said:
Hey guys, I got a few questions.

Is this beta the full game? Meaning it has all the official maps already?
Is there a way to have more than 5 vs 5 in the beta?
I can't seem to find any servers to join except for the auto join random server types, is that just for the beta?

Thanks.
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The beta is basically the release game at this point, unless they're holding content and updates off that we don't know about. There's more maps to come according to the game files and workshop support means it won't be a problem. 5v5 is the limit for competitive matchmaking, 6v6 for casual, I think. The community server option will let you join 3rd party servers. Friend joining is pretty buggy right now


These are the possible new maps
Hostage Rescue:
cs_assault (Phoenix Connexion VS. FBI HRT)
cs_compound

Bomb Defusal:
de_balkan (Balkan VS. GSG-9)
de_vertigo (Professional VS. FBI HRT)
de_cranes (Professional VS. FBI HRT)

Demolition:
de_alleyway (Professional VS. SWAT)
de_embassy (Anarchist VS. SWAT)
de_depot (Balkan VS. GSG-9)

Arms Race:
ar_monastery (Balkan VS. GSG-9)

Weapons Course:
training1 (Phoenix Connexion VS. ST-6)
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spk said:
The beta is basically the release game at this point, unless they're holding content and updates off that we don't know about. There's more maps to come according to the game files and workshop support means it won't be a problem. 5v5 is the limit for competitive matchmaking, 6v6 for casual, I think. The community server option will let you join 3rd party servers. Friend joining is pretty buggy right now
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Casual is limited to like 10v10 or something like that.
 
Druz said:
esea.net
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God I hope that service dies. I'm part of the problem in 1.6 but I want CS:GO to ditch ESEA.

Not even talking about the shitty servers.

I hope every team has an ELO in CS:GO. I'm dreaming of a matchmaking system like Starcraft 2 with no 3rd party BS required.
 
kpeezy said:
God I hope that service dies. I'm part of the problem in 1.6 but I want CS:GO to ditch ESEA.

Not even talking about the shitty servers.

I hope every team has an ELO in CS:GO. I'm dreaming of a matchmaking system like Starcraft 2 with no 3rd party BS required.
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I doubt they'll ditch ESEA. I believe CS:GO automatches ESEA members to ESEA servers.

And Valve said that there will be separate ELOs for individuals, teams, and Steam groups/Clans.
 
kpeezy said:
God I hope that service dies. I'm part of the problem in 1.6 but I want CS:GO to ditch ESEA.

Not even talking about the shitty servers.

I hope every team has an ELO in CS:GO. I'm dreaming of a matchmaking system like Starcraft 2 with no 3rd party BS required.
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ESEA anti-cheat has always been pretty top notch. Plus now that CAL is dead and CEVO is irrelevant, ESEA controls competitive play. Unless a league spawns that offers good enough prizes that they can steal the top teams, it probably won't change anytime soon.

Never really had a problem with their servers either. I remember lpkane released a lot of information regarding the servers when complaint threads would pop up over the years.
 
rCIZZLE said:
ESEA anti-cheat has always been pretty top notch. Plus now that CAL is dead and CEVO is irrelevant, ESEA controls competitive play. Unless a league spawns that offers good enough prizes that they can steal the top teams, it probably won't change anytime soon.

Never really had a problem with their servers either. I remember lpkane released a lot of information regarding the servers when complaint threads would pop up over the years.
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When did cevo turn irrelevant? I haven't payed any attention to that scene for 3 or 4 years (around when cal closed).
 
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