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Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

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Septimius said:
I've been thinking, GAF. Abortion isn't legal because life is so holy that under no circumstance can it be killed, right? Human life, that is. What gives courtrooms the right to sentence someone to death, but not women power over their own body even to the measly extent of aborting a rape-child?
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Life is only important until the moment it passes through the birth canal. Once born though, babies are tainted because they touched a vagina. Even in C-Sections (I COVER ALL MY BASES) All life is sacred, until its actually born and then we shouldn't give a shit about children, because having a home, food, and proper education isn't a right. Its a privilege. But gestating? You best damn believe that's a right. You're on your own though the moment you come crawling out however.
 
ShdwDrake said:
I'm black and I'm pretty fucking conservative but I'll be damed if I vote for these people.
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Republicans are gleefully trying their best to surpress minority voting rights so you wouldn't be able to vote for them even if you wanted to if they had their way.
 
Chojin said:
Life is only important until the moment it passes through the birth canal. Once born though, babies are tainted because they touched a vagina. Even in C-Sections (I COVER ALL MY BASES) All life is sacred, until its actually born and then we shouldn't give a shit about children, because having a home, food, and proper education isn't a right. Its a privilege. But gestating? You best damn believe that's a right. You're on your own though the moment you come crawling out however.
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I think this guy put it best:

worldrunover said:
The GOP: Where life begins at conception and ends at birth.
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Republicans make the best qualifiers ever though let's admit. I'm sure we'd hear more about authentic penis and genuine vagina if the republicans weren't afraid of using words that describe genitalia.
 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Can't we just ban people from public office when they reveal themselves to be this dumb?
 
Even if a person is against abortion in cases of rape and incest, how can any sane person defend his remarks about 'legitimate' rape and his assertion that a woman's body can determine when it is actually being raped? To me, this is one of those cases of politics at its most tribal, where people will defend their guy because they can't stand the other team moving forward an inch. Akin's comments are factually untrue, brutally insensitive, and should invoke disgust in people of all political stripes. How people can defend such statements boggles my mind.
 
CHEEZMO™;41193574 said:
If they had their way you wouldn't be able to.
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The stakes have never been higher this election year. If they win they'll consolidate their power and double down on voter suppression. The SuperPACs will see it as proof that they can buy the government from top to bottom, and they will spend accordingly. We're fighting a war for the soul of our country right now.

The world will weep if we lose.
 
animlboogy said:
As was pointed out earlier, there seems to be a bit of conservative dissent bubbling up against this guy. So there's that, at least, even though there are probably a thousand keyboards writing a thousand false equivalencies for tomorrow's opinion pieces
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The dissent is mostly because they want to win the election.
 
animlboogy said:
As was pointed out earlier, there seems to be a bit of conservative dissent bubbling up against this guy. So there's that, at least, even though there are probably a thousand keyboards writing a thousand false equivalencies for tomorrow's opinion pieces in defense of this shit (or more accurately, taking the opportunity to "call out liberals").
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Clearly the dissent is moreso to do with him exposing his colors before getting into office. Of course republicans would love to have him in the senate, taking a hard right position on every issue. He has committed the sin of unwrapping the present before Christmas.

The far right has been laying the tracks for this type of argument for awhile. First they attempted to illegitimize the argument that some abortions are needed to save a mother's life; the basic response is that these cases are so rare, they need not be discussed (or given clearance). Now they're playing semantics with what defines rape. This argument just rarely leaves far right primaries or blogs

Ultimately this story will pass, and the economy will come back to center view in MO. As long as Obama is on the ticket, McCaskill is fucked.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Clearly the dissent is moreso to do with him exposing his colors before getting into office. Of course republicans would love to have him in the senate, taking a hard right position on every issue. He has committed the sin of unwrapping the present before Christmas.

The far right has been laying the tracks for this type of argument for awhile. First they attempted to illegitimize the argument that some abortions are needed to save a mother's life; the basic response is that these cases are so rare, they need not be discussed (or given clearance). Now they're playing semantics with what defines rape. This argument just rarely leaves far right primaries or blogs

Ultimately this story will pass, and the economy will come back to center view in MO. As long as Obama is on the ticket, McCaskill is fucked.
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When the Republican says dumb shit like "Women who are raped can't get pregnant" the economy might take a backseat to that.

There is a possibility of a candidate being so atrociously bad that any dissatisfaction with the incumbent is put aside. See Harry Reid.
 
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
 
Chojin said:
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
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You almost had me.

9/10
 
Chojin said:
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
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meh/10
 
Chojin said:
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
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I don't know if you are trolling . . . but I could see a god rationalization for his belief. God wouldn't allow a good person to be violently raped and then end up pregnant with the rapists baby. God just wouldn't do that. So if you end up pregnant, you were probably lying about being raped or you did something to deserve it.

Sorta like the god won't let climate change happen to us theory.
 
Chojin said:
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
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extra points for the correct bible passages
 
speculawyer said:
I don't know if you are trolling . . . but I could see a god rationalization for his belief. God wouldn't allow a good person to be violently raped and then end up pregnant with the rapists baby. God just wouldn't do that. So if you end up pregnant, you were probably lying about being raped or you did something to deserve it.

Sorta like the god won't let climate change happen to us theory.
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Not trolling, I tend to try to empathize in whatever way I can with people, even when what they think or say seems batshit insane to me. It's useful in that to have a meaningful discussion you have to know where they are coming from. I was attempting to put myself in his shoes and think of what way he could possibly rationalize his statements. I like to try to understand the nature of people and empathy is a way for me to do that.

As I stated in my post, "I think I can empathize with what Akin was trying to get at" means exactly that. Empathize isn't the same thing as Sympathize. I don't sympathize with anything he said. What he said was wrong, nothing he could say or do will justify how wrong he was. I merely want to understand why he would even think of something as asinine as what he said.
 
Volimar said:
Same for me when I was in school. For us though we had actual reusable tickets that we had to give the cashier. Every morning in home room we'd be called up to reclaim our tickets. It was humiliating.
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Yeah, that's pretty bad. With the schools I went to you just gave them your number and they just let you through; lucky me, I suppose.
 
So Eric Erikson the guy who runs Red State said Biden saying the GOP wants to put America back in the chains of wall street was worse than this. Do conservatives really think this sort of nonsense? Holy shit.
 
Chojin said:
God, I'm probably going to hell for this, but the more I think about this situation the more I think I can empathize what Akin was trying to get at.

If you look at the Bible, Luke 1:26 to 1:38 it details the Immaculate Conception. In a nutshell: An angel comes to Mary and is like "Hey, guess what, you're preggo" and Mary says "What that can't be I'm a virgin!" and the Angel replies "God did it!"

There wasn't any sort of consent going on. Holy Mary was surprised by the announcement, it just kinda came out of nowhere.

See, it wasn't rape because a baby happened. In Akin's viewpoint, what God did wasn't rape because there was a baby resulting. If a woman gets knocked up by a stranger, then she really wasn't raped.
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The bible also says that you're hell-bound if you eat shellfish. Bonkers.
 
From the twitters:

I think Congressman Akin's biggest mistake was hiring Daniel Tosh as his communications director.
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lol

Gary Whitta said:
Nate Silver says it could cost Akin 10 points.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/akin-comments-could-swing-missouri-senate-race/

In one Twitter poll GOP activists were 80-1 in favor of Akin stepping down. He is fucked!
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Is he serious about that? I thought he was joking at first...

And is Akin the confirmed contender against McKaskell?
 
Oblivion said:
From the twitters:

Is he serious about that? I thought he was joking at first...

And is Akin the confirmed contender against McKaskell?
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He won the 3 way primary. I think at this point if he were to step down they would have to renominate somebody, so that's a whole other mess.
 
Cheebo said:
So Eric Erikson the guy who runs Red State said Biden saying the GOP wants to put America back in the chains of wall street was worse than this. Do conservatives really think this sort of nonsense? Holy shit.
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Mitt Romney has used his own "chains" line recently. Once again Mitt blaming Obama team for something he has done himself. Making up science to defend rape is someone hitting a 4 home run game. So outta the park you rarely see it.
 
Cheebo said:
So Eric Erikson the guy who runs Red State said Biden saying the GOP wants to put America back in the chains of wall street was worse than this. Do conservatives really think this sort of nonsense? Holy shit.
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So a typical dumb Biden quip is equal to dangerous psuedoscience? Well . . . the stupid pseudoscience quote itself, that false equivalency is stupid but expected.
 
Chojin said:
Not trolling, I tend to try to empathize in whatever way I can with people, even when what they think or say seems batshit insane to me. It's useful in that to have a meaningful discussion you have to know where they are coming from. I was attempting to put myself in his shoes and think of what way he could possibly rationalize his statements. I like to try to understand the nature of people and empathy is a way for me to do that.

As I stated in my post, "I think I can empathize with what Akin was trying to get at" means exactly that. Empathize isn't the same thing as Sympathize. I don't sympathize with anything he said. What he said was wrong, nothing he could say or do will justify how wrong he was. I merely want to understand why he would even think of something as asinine as what he said.
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But if that is the way he really thinks, he should just say it. Just say "God won't let a nice girl get pregnant from rape." Own it. I'd have more respect for him if he said that . . . I'd still think he's a cave man bone-head but at least an honest cave-man bone-head. Don't try to spew pseudoscience nonsense.
 
ErasureAcer said:
Mitt Romney has used his own "chains" line recently. Once again Mitt blaming Obama team for something he has done himself. Making up science to defend rape is someone hitting a 4 home run game. So outta the park you rarely see it.
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what are you trying to say? try that one again, k?
 
speculawyer said:
But if that is the way he really thinks, he should just say it. Just say "God won't let a nice let get pregnant from rape." Own it. I'd have more respect for him if he said that . . . I'd still think he's a cave man bone-head but at least an honest cave-man bone-head. Don't try to spew pseudoscience nonsense.
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Oh I agree. There's no way to defend what he said. Even if I can magically think what he was thinking it doesn't justify his statements in any way. I'm not trying to absolve him of his horrible thinking. I think I backfired in my post and I own it. Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain :)

I'm just interested in how someone can think like that. So I theorycraft. The way I posted it though, reading it again, probably made it seem I was sympathizing with the guy. For that I apologize, as it wasn't my intent at all.
 
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