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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC
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During the dinner scene, I wished for the following to happen.
Jesse realizes he had to force Walt to accept the deal and says:
"Yo, Ms. White, what would you say if there's a way for your husband to make 5 million dollars in a day?"
By the way, does anyone remember (from the scene where Walt and Jesse talked about telling their spouses the truth maybe?!) how much Jesse knows about Skyler's involvement and knowledge?
Jesse realizes he had to force Walt to accept the deal and says:
"Yo, Ms. White, what would you say if there's a way for your husband to make 5 million dollars in a day?"
By the way, does anyone remember (from the scene where Walt and Jesse talked about telling their spouses the truth maybe?!) how much Jesse knows about Skyler's involvement and knowledge?
saying that Walt only NOW isn't doing this for his family is not the truth. In season 1 he had a way to get out and not do any of this. Even back then he was in the empire business. Though not all of him realized that, it was the part of him making the decisions.
Seeing him finally fail (because it's coming, I'm sure) is going to be hugely satisfying. I hope the season opener is the beginning of a last-ditch crazy plan of his that ends so, so badly for him.
*raises hand*
Seeing him finally fail (because it's coming, I'm sure) is going to be hugely satisfying. I hope the season opener is the beginning of a last-ditch crazy plan of his that ends so, so badly for him.
Skyler doesn't care about money. She just wants Walt to die/her kids to be safe. She knows him well enough to know that he's in this for the long haul.
I've been firmly on team Jesse since season 2 and especially after season 4 and what we've gotten from season 5, I want to see Walt crash and burn.
Because he's the main character of the show?
The morality of the character has nothing to do with whether one should root for them or not, considering audiences have rooted for serial killers and sociopaths in past shows and films...
Harry Potter
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Wannabe gangsta. Killing someone and seeing a kid get killed can fuck you up.
AlimNassor
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WOO off my 1 month ban )=! Last nights episode was terrific.
Also, Glenn Howerton from it's Always Sunny is offering Aaron Paul a spot on his show. I'll try to find the tweet.
Also, Glenn Howerton from it's Always Sunny is offering Aaron Paul a spot on his show. I'll try to find the tweet.
TheDarkStark
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I don't get why anyone is "rooting" for anyone. I've been following from the beginning and at this point I just want it to be entertaining although I hope Jesse doesn't die, would be a travesty. Walt and Mike have it coming, they're definitely gonna die.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Yessssss
This. Walt is a fascinating character study, that's all.
Well, I'll explain my point a bit better since about a dozen people replied and most seemed to misunderstand me.
Using the "Team" phrase was misleading. I actually think it's stupid (but funny). I didn't even know there was a Team Jesse. My point was that even though most of us agree that Walt deserves to go down, we all know that's at least several episodes away. Meanwhile when watching his schemes/exploits, I'm not wanting him to fail. I think it's cool when he works shit out and succeeds over the people who have the moral highground. I like when he outsmarts Hank, pulls him train heists, finds some clever way to get himself out of trouble, etc. If I was truly against him, I'd be disappointed when he succeeded. But that's never how I feel.
It's like when you're watching a film about criminals robbing a bank. If it's done properly, you're probably on their side, hoping they get away.
And yeah, I like Jesse, too. That's how the show's been designed; for Jesse to be the sympathetic character. But somehow the last season would be more powerful if Jesse died and Walt had to live with that.
faceless007
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Enjoying watching the drama and conflict that results from a character's exploits is not the same thing as rooting for him.
It does if one wants to claim that the character is acting morally and therefore should be rooted for.
I rewatched the series pilot and when the doctor breaks the news on Walt, you find out the doctor told him he has two years to live if he does chemo.
Last night's episode Walt told Jesse they have to do one more year of work, after that point they can do soul searching. This was one year after Walter's diagnosis.
There's an insane amount of foreshadowing for Walt's death.
Last night's episode Walt told Jesse they have to do one more year of work, after that point they can do soul searching. This was one year after Walter's diagnosis.
There's an insane amount of foreshadowing for Walt's death.
That's all? Nothing else? So when you're watching them pull off the train heist, you're just a neutral observer with no preference either way?
Willkiller
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I can't see it any other way
I love Walt's character and I love when he gets away with shit sometimes, but I know that something bad is going to happen to him due to all the bad shit he's done, it's inevitable. That's why I really don't root for him myself, because things are not going to end well.
Walter will not be imprisoned, he would rather die fighting than be dragged away and for his children to find out and consistently be reminded that their father is a extremely well functioning criminal.
So yeah, I see it the same way you do.
If he doesn't literally die, he's going to figuratively die. Walt will have his mighty fall this season, and it will be awesome.
GhostRidah
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My new desktop
GTA: Albuquerque
Either that or be left with absolutely nothing.
-Pyromaniac-
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because it's fun? The fact that I've watched from the start makes it even more fun.
Darth Pinche
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Regarding the prints on the tarantula jar, a lot of parents have their kid's fingerprints and DNA registered in case of child abduction/kidnapping.
That evidence will bite them in the ass.
Why would police take the tarantula jar as evidence?
Also I've never heard about parents having their child's fingerprints or DNA registered, or at least, I haven't heard about most parents doing this.
Souless_PJ
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This is GAF. Whether its MS / Sony / Nintendo / Android / Apple / Team Walt / Skyler you have to pick a side and defend your honor. No room for shades of grey in these parts of town boy
Is that not the same thing? People just seem to be taking issue with the word "root", as if that means you're shouting "GO WALT!" at the TV while waving a Team Walt flag.
AlimNassor
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Maybe the Tarantula was a DEA informant?
Darth Pinche
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Maybe the parent's mention the kid was riding to find a tarantula and Todd screws up somehow gets the attention of the cops, Hank spots the tarantula and gets curious...or some variation. Almost everything on this show is shown with a purpose.
ThanksVision
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There's no way Walt makes it out of this. At the very least he'll be caught (by #teamHANK).
I don't really want him to succeed or fail beforehand. I enjoy it when he gets out of insane situations, but that enjoyment is usually based around "this dude is pretty fucking intuitive".
I'd say rooting for him means you want Walt to succeed and end up winning at the end of each episode.
Jack Scofield
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Hopefully the writers didn't forget that they hinted at Walt's cancer returning last season (we never received a definitive answer to Walt's test results, either). I expected the writers to allude to the results by this time, but even by Walt's 52nd birthday it looks like he's still cancer-free. Pretty lame red herring if the writers completely ignore the hinting and prodding they did in season four.
Harry Potter
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I think showing him with the tarantula was to reinforce how demented Tood is. It's a trophy.
-Pyromaniac-
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He'd die before he gets caught. And by caught I mean actually cuffed and taken in.
Shield spoiler:
he's going to do what Vic did and cut a deal for himself but end up with nothing
The teddy bear just acted as a symbol. I think the tarantula might be similar.
Agreed. You articulated it much better than I have.
Probably right. I should stop using that word, though I think you can "root" for someone in a particular situation.MormaPope said:
Those are some huge stretches. I also doubt Todd would keep the tarantula in a jar the whole time, he'd probably buy a small aquarium like thingy for the tarantula.
And a lot of things in Breaking Bad are allegories, a lot of what's shown is up for interpretation.
-Pyromaniac-
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but that's basically the reason people root for Walt. As long as he is around, doing the things he does, shit is thrilling/exciting/genius/crazy.
Awesome stuff to watch. Hope nothing stops the crazy train.
ThanksVision
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I like the idea that Hank will recognize the watch at some point.
Wiggum2007
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The last person who held that jar is DEAD. You're DEAD next Todd!
It's perfectly fine to root for Walt.
But be ready for some really heartbreaking shit if you do.
Ninja Scooter
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This is why this is my favorite show since the Shield. Same thing would happen with that show. You didn't root for Vic Mackey, but deep down you wanted him to get out of whatever jam he was in so that the shit could just continue and go deeper and deeper.
TheDarkStark
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Walt hasn't been outsmarting anyone this season, his head is too far up his ass, he's fighting a war on too many fronts. Jesse has been the "brains" this season.
Sure he has. Outsmarted Hank (bugging the office), outsmarted Mike (escaping), outsmarted Jesse (continued manipulation to get what he wants). You could say he hasn't outsmarted Skyler, though, since she's gotten her way to some extent with the kids being sent away.
He seems to be more susceptible to mistakes due to his hubris, though. They seem to be setting him up nicely for his downfall.
Darth Pinche
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Very true, huge stretches, but then again Hank eventually connected Fring/Madrigal by noticing a napkin at Gale's.
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