Football Thread 2012/13 |OT3| Two-sided triangles

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Sulley Muntari turns 28 today! But we all know it's 40 on the pitch/Ghana!

And really, TheLucifer, I don't want to see Inter, Napoli or Roma finish in CL places
or god forbid, higher
so you better step up! Literally and figuratively.
 
Yurt said:
Sulley Muntari turns 28 today! But we all know it's 40 on the pitch/Ghana!

And really, TheLucifer, I don't want to see Inter, Napoli or Roma finish in CL places
or god forbid, higher
so you better step up! Literally and figuratively.
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Eh, at least one of those teams will end up there. Probably Straminchioni's Inter. But yeah, if we can avoid Napoli it would be perfect.
 
TheLucifer said:
Just saw yesterday's highlights. Combined with the parts of the match seen yesterday, it's pretty clear that Allegri is still clueless on how to play without Ibra, even if we managed to do so when he got banned during the last two years. Just like that, it's clear that El Sha still need a lot of time, Bonera is terribad and we need another "prima punta" plus a Van Bommel substitute.

It was the first match of the year, fine. It was Pazzini's first match. As the Curva Sud said, let's wait and see for the end of August, then we'll talk. It's pretty clear that we aren't what we used to be, but I'm still convinced that in Italy only Juve is ahead of us. We could've lost yesterday match even with Thiago and Ibra (and we did so a lot of times in the last couple of years).

I'm not worried, season is still long and everyone will lose a couple of matches. We won't win the scudetto, but a Champions League spot is not out of our reach.
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I think Milan will do good, really good even, once Allegri figures out how to squeeze the best out of the players he's got. And with Kaka' and Pato (fingers crossed, I know) ... As of right now however, Milan has to pray for Boateng's well-being. He's the (only) engine of the team.
 
Ushojax said:
We could never pay Kaka's wage. Maybe if Sahin has a good season at Liverpool...
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He's already flat out rejected a move to Spurs once. The chances of him suddenly changing his mind after spending a year at Liverpool is pretty slim. If he has a good season with us, he'll either stay at LFC or go back to Madrid, not to a London club on a permanent deal.
 
dschalter said:
our opponent was robbed blind...
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Lichtsteiner scored a perfectly good goal, Pirlo scored a perfectly good goal (as almost everyone has now conceded, having seen the freezeframe), and Juventus had 15 shots to Parma's 6 while retaining 63% possession and keeping a clean sheet.

'Robbed'.
 
odd_morsel said:
He's already flat out rejected a move to Spurs once. The chances of him suddenly changing his mind after spending a year at Liverpool is pretty slim. If he has a good season with us, he'll either stay at LFC or go back to Madrid, not to a London club on a permanent deal.
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He rejected a move away full-stop back when Real first tried to move him, not specifically to Spurs. We never wanted him as part of the deal and he didn't want to leave Madrid at the time (back in June/July). That was before Mourinho took the piss out of him by playing him at LB in pre-season.
 
odd_morsel said:
He's already flat out rejected a move to Spurs once. The chances of him suddenly changing his mind after spending a year at Liverpool is pretty slim. If he has a good season with us, he'll either stay at LFC or go back to Madrid, not to a London club on a permanent deal.
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If he leaves Real Madrid next summer he'll go to a team who are playing in the Champions League.
 
Just found out Rooney's out for 2 months? So what happens when RVP inevitably breaks during that time period? #ChichaWelbFuture?
 
I bet Real refused a buy option for Sahin because they already agreed to sell him to Spurs next year because Real thinks Levy is so kawaii.
 
Ushojax said:
Apparently we've had bids rejected for Isco of Malaga and Willian from Shaktar. Hopefully we try for Dembele as well. Huddlestone on loan plus £10m ought to do it.

Farewell, Modders. You were a great player for us and deserve to play for a club like Real Madrid, we failed to match your talent with results on the pitch. At least the Clasicos will have a North London element now (Song/Fabregas v Modric).
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Ok Spurs fans tell me I'm wrong... Luka Modric is the most overrated player in the prem... stats - 36 games in the prem last season, 4 goals 4 assists last season - and similar strike rate in previous seasons. And for the 4 goals he had 83 shots and 23 were on target... sure ability is not measured by strike rate but whenever Ive watched him he has done anything. He is worth less than 10m pounds in my book... we shall see if he lives up to his transfer fee in madrid and if he even gets on the park ahead of ozil or di maria as he probably won't be playing in Alonso/Khedira's role and he's not better than ronaldo.

If he's worth 37m then carroll is worth 70m and I'm not even a reds fan. There's a stack of players I would take ahead of modric in the prem arteta, kagawa, silva, toure, cabaye, fellaini. Hazard is twice the player he is.

and PS Man U should totally sell Berbatov rather than let him rot on the bench...
 
If you were to judge a player just on his goal and assists stats then Iniesta wouldn't even be worth £5m. Yet he's widely regarded as the best midfielder on the planet.

Stats aren't everything in football and Modric is a very good footballer.
 
arbok26 said:
Ok Spurs fans tell me I'm wrong... Luka Modric is the most overrated player in the prem... stats - 36 games in the prem last season, 4 goals 4 assists last season - and similar strike rate in previous seasons. And for the 4 goals he had 83 shots and 23 were on target... sure ability is not measured by strike rate but whenever Ive watched him he has done anything. He is worth less than 10m pounds in my book... we shall see if he lives up to his transfer fee in madrid and if he even gets on the park ahead of ozil or di maria as he probably won't be playing in Alonso/Khedira's role and he's not better than ronaldo.

If he's worth 37m then carroll is worth 70m and I'm not even a reds fan. There's a stack of players I would take ahead of modric in the prem arteta, kagawa, silva, toure, cabaye, fellaini. Hazard is twice the player he is.

and PS Man U should totally sell Berbatov rather than let him rot on the bench...
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I think Modric had the some of the best stats for dribbles and key passes in the PL last season, certainly he was in the top 3. Players like Silva, Kagawa, etc might look more flashy but they play much further forward, they could not play in a deep midfield two like Modric does. The season before last Alex Ferguson said Modric was his player of the season. To say he's worth less than £10m reflects poorly on your understanding of football. Modric dictates play with his excellent passing from deep, he dribbles out of tight corners and defensive situations, he is not a good finisher but that's not what he's there to do.

I remember last season we beat Bolton 4-1, Modric scored one amazing goal but more typical was the through ball he played for goal number 4. Lennon got the simple sideways assist to Adebayor but he only got into that position because Modric played him in from the halfway line. That's what he does, he plays the pass before the assist.
 
arbok26 said:
Ok Spurs fans tell me I'm wrong... Luka Modric is the most overrated player in the prem... stats - 36 games in the prem last season, 4 goals 4 assists last season - and similar strike rate in previous seasons. And for the 4 goals he had 83 shots and 23 were on target... sure ability is not measured by strike rate but whenever Ive watched him he has done anything. He is worth less than 10m pounds in my book... we shall see if he lives up to his transfer fee in madrid and if he even gets on the park ahead of ozil or di maria as he probably won't be playing in Alonso/Khedira's role and he's not better than ronaldo.

If he's worth 37m then carroll is worth 70m and I'm not even a reds fan. There's a stack of players I would take ahead of modric in the prem arteta, kagawa, silva, toure, cabaye, fellaini. Hazard is twice the player he is.

and PS Man U should totally sell Berbatov rather than let him rot on the bench...
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I have no idea how people come to this conclusion about Modric. He's one of those rare players who can completely control a midfield and pull all the strings without people noticing what he's doing. He's one of the best CM's in the league for my money.
 
Ushojax said:
I think Modric had the some of the best stats for dribbles and key passes in the PL last season, certainly he was in the top 3. Players like Silva, Kagawa, etc might look more flashy but they play much further forward, they could not play in a deep midfield two like Modric does. The season before last Alex Ferguson said Modric was his player of the season. To say he's worth less than £10m reflects poorly on your understanding of football.
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Thats why im asking spurs fans who watch him week in week out. But on Match of the Day he disappears...

Note I only watch Everton games (and MOTD)

what exactly is a key pass? not the assist but the one that sets up the goal?
 
Phantast2k said:
Ah, that sucks.
So if Lewandowski/Schieber got injured, the next in line would probably be Perisic/Reus. Klopp should probably test such formations without a real striker.
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I'm not sure if Klopp would have played Ducksch in a proper match yet, anyway. We could probably pull off a Barca style fake 9 with Reus on the pitch.
 
arbok26 said:
If he's worth 37m then carroll is worth 70m
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HE1TA.jpg
 
dc89 said:
Because he's the hero United deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll bench him because he can take it. Because he's not our striker. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
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I love this speech in TDK haha. Also love the music that kicks in when Batman starts running. So good.
 
90TilInfinity said:
If he leaves Real Madrid next summer he'll go to a team who are playing in the Champions League.
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Ushojax said:
He rejected a move away full-stop back when Real first tried to move him, not specifically to Spurs. We never wanted him as part of the deal and he didn't want to leave Madrid at the time (back in June/July). That was before Mourinho took the piss out of him by playing him at LB in pre-season.
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kekeke

Say whatever you like. If he has a good season with Liverpool, we may be a CL team. Keep that in mind.
 
I don't really know what the 'marquee' events are supposed to be for the Paralympics, but I'm pretty happy with what I have got.

Still no Olympic Stadium, though. I'll have to go and see a West Ham game one day.
 
Clegg said:
If you were to judge a player just on his goal and assists stats then Iniesta wouldn't even be worth £5m. Yet he's widely regarded as the best midfielder on the planet.

Stats aren't everything in football and Modric is a very good footballer.
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Iniesta is amazing... but ive watched Iniesta more than modric
 
odd_morsel said:
kekeke

Say whatever you like. If he has a good season with Liverpool, we may be a CL team. Keep that in mind.
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Of course, if Liverpool get CL and Spurs don't then we have no chance of getting him anyway. It's just not true to say he rejected a move to Spurs. He rejected any kind of move early in the summer and changed his mind in the last few weeks. Spurs only ever wanted cash for Modric.
 
Modric is a great player, he has fantastic technical ability and passing range. Wish he would stay on the PL but oh well looks like tottenham are now reals feeder team
 
Ushojax said:
Of course, if Liverpool get CL and Spurs don't then we have no chance of getting him anyway. It's just not true to say he rejected a move to Spurs. He rejected any kind of move early in the summer and changed his mind in the last few weeks. Spurs only ever wanted cash for Modric.
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I thought the rumor was that AVB didnt want Sahin as he thought he wont be able to handle the physical nature of EPL.
 
Liverpool were excellent yesterday. I think whoever has the best away record this season will be the title winner since Goodison Park, Sports Direct Arena, Anfield etc will all be near-impenetrable fortresses.
 
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