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Ah, so that's how they're going to make the rest of the audience hate Walt.... =(

People getting bogged down in the morality argument are missing the point. Mike was a likable character. In fiction, the number of murders or other immoral acts committed by a character generally has no bearing whatsoever on their likability. Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction? Solid Snake? Cold-blooded killers who come off as damn likable to the audience are nothing new. This is a crime drama; pull your head out of your ass and take it for what it is.

By the way, my girl and both my sisters hate Skyler as well. What a bunch of misogynists!
#TeamSkyler are a bunch of guilt-ridden overcompensators ;)
 
How does someone even hurt him at this point? Besides killing Holly and Walt Jr. anything else wouldn't even phase him out of the Heisenberg mindset.

The cancer comes back 10 fold and he comes back to the scared Walt Persona...

The premiere pretty much alludes to this happening among other things. At this point he is in the mindset that he can't be broken, but I think when the cancer returns, a domino effect will occur. Cancer returns, Someone in his family is hurt/killed, ect
 
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Also people mourning Mike's character as if he was a martyr, a national hero .. jeez. The character was great but he was anything but good. As the show kept progressing, Mike kept making a lot of mistakes .. I never saw Mike surviving when they first showed him having a grand daughter etc. It all had a payoff in this episode, especially the sequence at the park. Most emotional one for me, more than final shot.

The people that think skylar was a villian are insane misogynists.
Fucking no. I hate her character because it's the most shittiest on the show, love every other female character (even Lydia) as they all move the story forward. Anything Skylar related is like nails on the blackboard, well except the awkward moments with Jesse.
 
I'm still on #TeamWalt. I always root for the bad guy. Was killing Mike warranted, kinda sorta, he was a loose end. Lydia is next on the block (Am I the only one that thinks she's the best looking female on the show?)
 
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"Oh, there you are! Hey, Mike.

Wow! Things got pretty heated back there, didnt't they? Out of hand. *laughs*


*ahem*
This is obviously a very sad moment for you, but I just gotta say—it looks like you're
taking a bloody shit out here on this stump. Are you sure that's how you want to go?

Now, I don't mean to sound insensitive, don't get me wrong! I understand the long face
and everything: you're probably thinking, "Jesse... I shoulda let Jesse bring me that bag."

I gotta agree with you there, Mike.

You know, it's funny, but I just realized that Lydia has the names I need. I'll get 'em
from her and then have Todd's connections kill your friends in prison. I'll do Lydia and
the lawyer myself.

I'm getting the knack for this aren't I? *laughs*

What I'm saying is, I overreacted. See? I'm not as bad as you say.

I'm APOLOGIZING, Mike! Aren't you gonna do the same?"

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*silence*​



"Wow, you won't believe this, but I JUST NOW got your Bo Svenson reference from "Half
Measures." God, it's been ages since I've watched Walking Tall, what a great fucking—

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—show."


*whistling*​
 
The cancer comes back 10 fold and he comes back to the scared Walt Persona...

The premiere pretty much alludes to this happening among other things. At this point he is in the mindset that he can't be broken, but I think when the cancer returns, a domino effect will occur. Cancer returns, Someone in his family is hurt/killed, ect

Walt has already made peace with the fact that one day, sooner or later, the cancer will return.

Right now his only "goal" is to see just how big/far he can go as Heisenberg before that happens. He has no endgame or destination. The cancer returning will force Walt to define one. Be it attempting to make amends with the people he hurt, turning himself in and paying for his crimes, escaping to die peacefully or, ensuring that the name Heisenberg echos through the ages by going out in the biggest blaze of glory the Southwest has ever seen. Whatever ultimately happens, staring inevitable demise in the face is what got Walter White on this path and it will be the thing that get's him off it.
 
I would love for the movie idea to come true, it would be great, but only if necessary. I just cant see the show ending in 9 episodes, feels like so much needs to be resolved. Walt just got in bed with a new distributor, he has a new cooking partner, Mike bit the dust.....
 
This is the first time Walt has just straight up directly murdered someone right?
No, he ran over that dude to save Jessie.
edit-and he killed that guy in the old lab.
On topic, I just saw it. WTF! Walt was really cool when he gave that you know who I am speech, but now I hate him :(
I really felt for Mike when he had to leave his grand daughter... RIP Mike.
 
Of course he does, didn't you see how he stared jealously out the window as Jesse and Mike shook hands?

I think at this point Walt only cares about Jesse in context of his legacy--what's the point of Empire building if you don't have somebody to carry on your works after you're gone? He needs Jesse to keep the Heisenberg formula on top after death. If Todd's good, I can see him getting over Jesse quickly.
 
Who were those?

Letting Jane die to gain control of Jesse was low, also pushing Jesse to kill Gale, and planting a bomb in an old people home is just bad. It shows he doesn't give two shits about any bystanders and whatnot. Just because he hasn't killed a completely innocent person doesn't mean he wouldn't, he would've killed Gale if he could, but he couldn't.. Gale would still be alive if not for Walt, Jesse pulled the trigger, but that wouldn't have happened if not for Walt. Poisoning a kid shows how far Walt will go, and killing Mike shows far he's come as a piece of shit.
 
Jane was definitely the turning point for Walt as a character, although I guess a lot of people just see her as a junkie so that's probably why so many people still back Walt this far in. >.>

*Pours Out Some Irish Ale For Mike*

I knew this would happen however Walt, Mike & Gus were my favorites on this show. 2 down one to go =(


About Jane what could he do to save her it was her choice & if he would call 911 it would have been too late anyway. Plus when she passed & he finally called Jessie & Walt had to do major cleaning first. He merely didn't want Jessie to do time. On top of that they were extorting Walt anyway. Perhaps he could have maybe rolled her onto her stomach as to not choke on the vomit, that's still not a guarantee that, that would have helped Jane any either she overdosed which could have caused organs to fail. Jessie murked Gale to save his & Walt's tails

Sooooooooooooo Who Killed Jane? Who Killed Jane? Herself.....

Walt only killed the two thugs gunning for Jessie, Gus & The Mute (old cartel guy,) now Mike. He had a small hand in Tuco but really Hank finished him. Walt also scored an assist in tandem with Gus @ the Cartel Party. Who's next I'm hoping Skylar a I wait with baited breath.....
 
I'd rather them increase Season 5.5 by 2-3 episodes(or a single 2 hour episode) instead of delaying ending the story for a film that might never actually make into production.

If they want to end the series with Walt alive to leave the door open for a film, awesome, but the series finale needs to feel like one and wrap everything up in case "Breaking Bad: Chemically Waltered" never sees the light of day.
 
It's too bad Mike never took his own advice this season and took a full measure; episode after episode was filled with half-measures from him, and it looks like it finally caught up to him.

I'd rather them increase Season 5.5 by 2-3 episodes(or a single 2 hour episode) instead of delaying ending the story for a film that might never actually make into production.

If they want to end the series with Walt alive to leave the door open for a film, awesome, but the series finale needs to feel like one and wrap everything up in case "Breaking Bad: Chemically Waltered" never sees the light of day.

Wait, has there been talk of a Breaking Bad film, or is this just random speculation with no basis? I haven't been following production.
 
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