Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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Hank committing suicide? Great idea, I definitely see that happening.

Know what, Jesse will die, and I am sure Walt will end up in prison as the old, fragile, insecure man he is with no friends.

Jesse dead
Hank suicide
Walt in jail

Or maybe Walt kills Hank, I cant see Hank killing himself unless he causes something to happen (like getting Walt Jr. killed or something)
 
I'm betting Walt's next murder (Jesse or Hank) will have no hesitation and no regret. No fuck ups this time just cold blooded murder
 
I'm betting Walt's next murder (Jesse or Hank) will have no hesitation and no regret. No fuck ups this time just cold blooded murder

I dont see that at all. Ill say it again: Walt isn't the cold blooded person he, and the Heisenberg fans think he is. He is NOT Gus. He is not in control. He is not capable. He gloats over Gus, he tries to be Heisenberg, but Heisenberg is a character that comes when he puts on his hat. Gus on the other hand is Gus. No gimmick, no need to brag about it, no need to hide from it.

Walt is a man who is caught up in something he cant control, by nature he is not even in control of his own health. Walt is the opposite of Gus. If Walt kills, it is out of emotion, he is just like Jesse in this sense, even though he thinks he is not.

I dont see him as cold blooded at all. Old Walt is always in there somewhere, but old Walt is too much of a normal person to come out of the Walt he has turned into
 
My prediction: Walt's family will be killed by Huell after he sits on them. Jesse will find out that Walt poisoned Brock, so he's out to kill Mr. White. Saul he no clue what's happening so he runs off with all of his cell phones. Hank will kill Marie because he realizes how ugly she is. Gomez will smile after Hank kills Marie and they will run off in each others arms. Walt will be the new king pin and eventually take out his competition and Jesse by throwing his Heisenberg hat at them like Oddjob. Mike's body will roll pass in every scene like tumbleweed.
 
I think it's all starting to come together now with the foreshadowing IMO
Because Jesse pointed a gun at Walt back in S4, Jesse will be shot and killed back when the two become hostile again (If this post off Reddit is to be believed: http://i.imgur.com/EzV3K.jpg)). Because Walt tried to shoot the APD way back in the pilot on the road, they will be the ones who get dibs on killing Walt.

As for Hank mock-shooting himself, perhaps it could mean that Hank/ DEA shoots Walt, whether knowing or not that he is Heisenberg after Walt frames his own death earlier on, if that suicide theory mentioned before holds up.
 
My prediction: Walt's family will be killed by Huell after he sits on them. Jesse will find out that Walt poisoned Brock, so he's out to kill Mr. White. Saul he no clue what's happening so he runs off with all of his cell phones. Hank will kill Marie because he realizes how ugly she is. Gomez will smile after Hank kills Marie and they will run off in each others arms. Walt will be the new king pin and eventually take out his competition and Jesse by throwing his Heisenberg hat at them like Oddjob. Mike's body will roll pass in every scene like tumbleweed.
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As long as Jesse, Saul and Hank are alive by the end, I'll be happy. Walt in prison would be good. Everyone else I don't care about.
 
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HAH this was one of the funniest parts of the episode for me.
 
Another astonishing episode, but one thing does bother me. How did Mike manage to escape from that park which was cornered with DEA cars? And how could he leave his granddaughter?
 
Everyone shut the fuck up about Hank killing himself. When I reread this thread after this week's episode, it looks like all of you somehow knew Mike was a gonner, so I reckon you all have psychic powers. I actually really don't see how they can logically make Hank commit suicide, unless the DEA comes to suspect that he helped Walt 'take out the competition' and threaten him with jail time. They might also try to spin it as "he couldn't turn him in, but he couldn't let him get away with it either, so he couldn't live with himself anymore" but I wouldn't buy that.

Once Hank learned the truth, he'd begin to doubt everything Walt has said to get him on his side, and so he won't have any sympathy for the bastard anymore.
 
The movie would indicate that Hank will die in an apparent suicide, and Gomie will keep investigating until he finds Walt responsible.
wtf where did you get that from. The description reads that the detective is the one who begins doubting a verdict that someone died from an apparent suicide (walt?). And then he finds out the dead man (walt) has been living beyond his means.

It doesn't say the main cop dies. Hank would be the main cop here. Walt is the substitute for "fellow cop".
 
Everyone shut the fuck up about Hank killing himself. When I reread this thread after this week's episode, it looks like all of you somehow knew Mike was a gonner, so I reckon you all have psychic powers. I actually really don't see how they can logically make Hank commit suicide, unless the DEA comes to suspect that he helped Walt 'take out the competition' and threaten him with jail time. They might also try to spin it as "he couldn't turn him in, but he couldn't let him get away with it either, so he couldn't live with himself anymore" but I wouldn't buy that.

Once Hank learned the truth, he'd begin to doubt everything Walt has said to get him on his side, and so he won't have any sympathy for the bastard anymore.

So it didn't occur to you while watching the episode that Mike could *possibly* be in trouble? Did you expect him to ride off into the sunset, with all the knowledge he had of the operation?

I don't necessarily see Hank killing himself, but the guy is fragile. If he finds out that Walt has been under his nose this whole time, I could see Hank having a breakdown. In fact, maybe HANK kills Walt's family, which only puts Walt so far over the edge that we cannot even fathom what he is capable of!
 
I dont see that at all. Ill say it again: Walt isn't the cold blooded person he, and the Heisenberg fans think he is. He is NOT Gus. He is not in control. He is not capable. He gloats over Gus, he tries to be Heisenberg, but Heisenberg is a character that comes when he puts on his hat. Gus on the other hand is Gus. No gimmick, no need to brag about it, no need to hide from it.

Walt is a man who is caught up in something he cant control, by nature he is not even in control of his own health. Walt is the opposite of Gus. If Walt kills, it is out of emotion, he is just like Jesse in this sense, even though he thinks he is not.

I dont see him as cold blooded at all. Old Walt is always in there somewhere, but old Walt is too much of a normal person to come out of the Walt he has turned into

he has been in Heisenberg mode several times without the hat. I think it comes down to a dual personality disorder that having cancer brought about as a coping mechanism. The Heisenberg personality has practically taken over entirely this season and I think the final 8 episodes will be walt trying to reclaim his life back (or at least what ever life he can salvage) after heisenberg destroy just about everything that meant something to him.
 
Another astonishing episode, but one thing does bother me. How did Mike manage to escape from that park which was cornered with DEA cars? And how could he leave his granddaughter?

Not DEA per say, looked like just local cops called to scene, and they did only show what was in front of him.

Knowing Mike he probably goes to a local park with multiple exits, planning for this inevitable situation. As far as his granddaughter goes he made a judgement call, get arrested in front of her or not get arrested at all. I can only imagine how tough of a call that has to be to make.
 
Isn't it a bit dumb on Walt's part that he tries get the names of the 9 men when all he had to do was ask Lydia who had already previously spilled the beans?

This spoiled a lot for me and it's not consistent at all...when Walt was interviewing Lydia previously I was expecting another scene to occur where he gets the names...it never happened so I was like "eh maybe he's come to terms with this legacy payment stuff"...
 
Isn't it a bit dumb on Walt's part that he tries get the names of the 9 men when all he had to do was ask Lydia who had already previously spilled the beans?

This spoiled a lot for me and it's not consistent at all...when Walt was interviewing Lydia previously I was expecting another scene to occur where he gets the names...it never happened so I was like "eh maybe he's come to terms with this legacy payment stuff"...

You seem to miss the part where it's clear and has been for a long time now that Walt is an unstable human being. He did something which was obvious even he thought was stupid the way he reacted afterward. And now he has to deal with it. Sounds like a lot of things he has done, pretty consistent.
 
So it didn't occur to you while watching the episode that Mike could *possibly* be in trouble? Did you expect him to ride off into the sunset, with all the knowledge he had of the operation?

I meant that posts immediately before the episode began, or during the first 10 minutes. No, in those 10 minutes, I definitely didn't think he'd die. In fact, I didn't think he was going to die until Walt said he'd deliver the bag to Mike, which reminded me of the set up of the season 5 finale of
The Shield
.
 
You seem to miss the part where it's clear and has been for a long time now that Walt is an unstable human being. He did something which was obvious even he thought was stupid the way he reacted afterward. And now he has to deal with it. Sounds like a lot of things he has done, pretty consistent.

Unstable yes...but stupid when it comes to obtaining and getting what he wants? No that is not consistent at all...but if it's intentional then it just makes it feel forced.
 
I meant that posts immediately before the episode began, or during the first 10 minutes. No, in those 10 minutes, I definitely didn't think he'd die. In fact, I didn't think he was going to die until Walt said he'd deliver the bag to Mike, which reminded me of the set up of the season 5 finale of
The Shield
.

People have been talking about Mike dying all series. Walts speech to Jesse about Victor was a big clue.
 
I want Jessie or Skyler to take Walt out. I think Walt has lost his only redeeming qualities. He's not in it for his family anymore and probably hasn't been for awhile.
 
Unstable yes...but stupid when it comes to obtaining and getting what he wants? No that is not consistent at all...but if it's intentional then it just makes it feel forced.

Well, earlier this season Walt didn't even want to pay Mike's guys even though they could bring their whole operation down, so yeah I think Walt's an idiot in criminal matters at least.
 
So, official vote: What to you think is the big stinger for the end of the half season? Do we get a major death, a mojor discovery, or both?
I think either someone in Walt's family dies, we find out something major about Tod, or Hank finally figures it out.
 
So, official vote: What to you think is the big stinger for the end of the half season? Do we get a major death, a mojor discovery, or both?
I think either someone in Walt's family dies, we find out something major about Tod, or Hank finally figures it out.
Mike was a major death so I don't expect another. Hank figuring it out would be interesting as that would mean the second half would be entirely about Walt on the run. I hope it is revealed to Jesse during the second half of the season all the ways Walt has fucked him over. I can't see them leaving that a loose end. Walt could potentially try to pay Tod's friend/uncle in jail to knock off the nine people.
 
Well, earlier this season Walt didn't even want to pay Mike's guys even though they could bring their whole operation down, so yeah I think Walt's an idiot in criminal matters at least.

Walt himself didn't want to because he figured it should all be on Mike. He is still aware that the 9 guys are a threat which is why he wants their names.
 
So, official vote: What to you think is the big stinger for the end of the half season? Do we get a major death, a mojor discovery, or both?
I think either someone in Walt's family dies, we find out something major about Tod, or Hank finally figures it out.

I have no idea but I think it might end in a way that lets them jump ahead in time for the next half. Hard to imagine how they're going to do that in one episode though.
 
Mike was a major death so I don't expect another. Hank figuring it out would be interesting as that would mean the second half would be entirely about Walt on the run. I hope it is revealed to Jesse during the second half of the season all the ways Walt has fucked him over. I can't see them leaving that a loose end. Walt could potentially try to pay Tod's friend/uncle in jail to knock off the nine people.

Something with Skyler seems most logical. Only story that needs wrapping up before the endgame starts next year imo.
 
So, official vote: What to you think is the big stinger for the end of the half season? Do we get a major death, a mojor discovery, or both?
I think either someone in Walt's family dies, we find out something major about Tod, or Hank finally figures it out.
I think this half of the season ends with a shot of Hank obtaining/realizing a crucial bit of evidence.
 
I feel like the final episode of the first half will be Walt's official ascension. As in it will show him cleaning up Mike's body, getting the names from Lydia, killing off the people in prison, then a montage of him making lots of dough. While the second half will be his fall back to earth.

Or

Walt panics like crazy over what to do with Mike, solves it, gets the names, solves that, after cleaning up all his supposed problems the episode ends with something he forgot or whatever, and perhaps gives Hank the big clue he needs. I don't know what but there will be something major.
 
he has been in Heisenberg mode several times without the hat. I think it comes down to a dual personality disorder that having cancer brought about as a coping mechanism. The Heisenberg personality has practically taken over entirely this season and I think the final 8 episodes will be walt trying to reclaim his life back (or at least what ever life he can salvage) after heisenberg destroy just about everything that meant something to him.

I know, just saying that he has those two "modes" where he gets into Heisenberg mode to the point that he demands people to acknowledge it. Gus wouldnt need to do this. Gus is always Gus. Always in control.

I'm saying that Heiseinberg is a disguise to make him think he's in control (via the hat symbolism), but he is not in control. The hat comes off, he is someone else under it, and can never really be the monster he tries to be because he lacks the control and calmness of Gus. This is why he will never succeed with his greed
 
I feel like the final episode of the first half will be Walt's official ascension. As in it will show him cleaning up Mike's body, getting the names from Lydia, killing off the people in prison, then a montage of him making lots of dough.
This makes me want a Wire end of season montage so badly.
 
So, official vote: What to you think is the big stinger for the end of the half season? Do we get a major death, a mojor discovery, or both?
I think either someone in Walt's family dies, we find out something major about Tod, or Hank finally figures it out.

Someone is gonna figure somethig not who but someone. I can see another death to knock him off his ego.
 
I feel like the final episode of the first half will be Walt's official ascension. As in it will show him cleaning up Mike's body, getting the names from Lydia, killing off the people in prison, then a montage of him making lots of dough. While the second half will be his fall back to earth.

I could believe that. However, there's gotta be a cliffhanger before the half season ends. It might be Hank piecing things together or a White family member dying.
 
Walt's journey towards 100% corruption with Mike's death is complete. The odd thing though is where does the killing stop? Jessie will most likely end up getting killed if not by, because of Walter, Walter will kill the new kid after another f'up because he can't stand the sloppiness of his work and so on.

The major twist in all of this though is that Walter will end up kill one of his own family members be it his newborn, Walt Jr. or his wife. The place that this show is going is dark and I have no doubt that they will make you feel just as awestruck as we were at the end of Season 4.
 
Everyone's saying Skyler's going to die next episode, but I'd be disappointed if the finale didn't involve Hank finding out. Leaving that all to the final 8 episodes is cutting it fine.
 
Mike was a major death so I don't expect another. Hank figuring it out would be interesting as that would mean the second half would be entirely about Walt on the run. I hope it is revealed to Jesse during the second half of the season all the ways Walt has fucked him over. I can't see them leaving that a loose end. Walt could potentially try to pay Tod's friend/uncle in jail to knock off the nine people.

That Tod connection to jail sounds very plausible. Walter will never let those people live since they can finger him.

Jesse not knowing how Walt has fucked him is a bit or a loose thread but I know think it's one that needs to be tied up. I can't imagine how Jesse would even find out, unless Saul makes a serious slip and I don't see that. I kind of Hope Jesse is just don't with him and the last of his arc is just trying not to get caught and brought down with Walt.
 
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