Don't call me princess.
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Don't call me princess.
BobTheFork
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So Jesse thinks that Mike has left for good but he knows that they took all of Mike's money before he 'left'. I would feel so great if Jess stepped up and put away a bunch of money for Kaylee under Mike's name :'(
He doesn't know that. Three months have passed since Mike's murder, so there's no reason for him to assume that money was Mike's.
Or do you mean "they" as in the DEA?
Did he actually know enough about that part of Mike's life to do so? Maybe if Saul told him about it.
lazybones18
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Probably already posted, but it does show the book's appearance in S3
http://elliselbee.tumblr.com/post/30859813658/leaves-of-grass-appearances-3x06-5x03-5x08
http://elliselbee.tumblr.com/post/30859813658/leaves-of-grass-appearances-3x06-5x03-5x08
BobTheFork
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He and Walt were there when Saul told them they took Mike's money, why wouldn't he know?
Maharg: That's where I assume the information would come from.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Mike's bag of money he had with him.
I'm not comparing anything to anything. I said that Seinfeld belongs into the ranks of great, timeless TV shows. And so does The Wire. *Gasp*. Did your monocle just pop? Dare Seinfeld not breathe the same air as such a very SERIOUS and HEAVY show?
Said who? I asked you to clarify whether you really thought sitcoms are automatically disqualified from the top ranks. Although, yes, I must admit that I have trouble taking someone very seriously who thinks that comedy by its nature is inferior to drama and can never achieve the same level of greatness. It is my *opinion* that that is a pretty ignorant *opinion*.
This time it's in Walt's possession, whereas last time it was just a scribble in Gale's lab notes.
Lionel Mandrake
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Also it says "other W.W."
-Pyromaniac-
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First time = Walt Whitman, the poet. Second time, the note deliberately said OTHER W.W. and it's in walts home, which is Walter obviously. Which means he lied about many things because he knew Gale, worked with him (as it said on the note), and frankly, Gus is dead, Tuco is dead, Gale is dead, the only employee left who would know how to make the same purity as the gus organization is the last employee left alive, and that is Walt.
It's one of those moments where once you know that Walt worked with Gale, you start connecting 20 different dots and everything starts making sense. Especially when you're as smart as Hank.
Oh, so Willy Wonka.
"Sail me down your chocolatey river of meth!" - Badger
Now that's what I call a callback.
It's a book inscribed by someone who loves W(alt).W(hitman). who's initials are G(ale).B(oetticher). referring to his Other W(alter).W(hite) in Walter White's bathroom.
What's not to get?
-Pyromaniac-
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I honestly would have preferred just Walt saying the cancer is back. That Hank finds the evidence we've been waiting for since the show began on the mid-season finale via another message from god is brutal.
Did it have any other appearances before this season? Was there any indication it was a gift from Gale? I like the actual scene and what it represents, but it wasn't handled very well.
Count the end of season one as the planned "ending," as there was no clue if HBO was ever going to let it end when it wanted. I think it works better than Breaking Bad stalling for as long as it has. The show couldn't have gone on, the characters' stories were finished (but there was an idea floating around for one more season focusing on the Latino community, immigration.) The new generation fills the empty roles, incompetency reigns.
Don't know why they couldn't have started with these first eight. He's basically admitting to my major beef with the show.
SCULLIBUNDO
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What the fuck am I reading?
-Pyromaniac-
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it would be fun if Hank brought out the book and jokingly said he likes the reading material and just compliments it, classic Hank trolling. No one will know what he is talking about except him and Walt.
But of course he probably wont. He has an advantage now. He knows, Walt doesn't know he knows.
Yes. That top GIF is from 3x6 (Sunset). In it, Gale recites The Learned Astronomer to Walt. Two scenes later, Walt is seen reading Leaves of Grass.
It's true that we never saw Gale give him the book, nor did we see the inscription. There was no way to predict it happening, but I don't think there was a way they could've handled it without it being too obvious.
When he finally arrests him he's going to be all "I don't know man, I'm just following orders!", during trial he'll look over and give him the cuckoo sign when they talk about the evidence, finally when he visits him in jail he'll be all "man, I'll get you out of here bud, I know you're innocent!".
All part of his elaborate plan to oust him for stealing supplies from the high school.
smoothj
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I still say Malcolm in the Middle is better than Breaking Bad
Superior intro too
I assumed he bought it or got it from the library, and certainly not containing an underlined incriminating note from Gale. I was asking if it appeared after that, in S3 or S4. I lost my glasses and haven't been able to make out small details via the live SD airing this season, so I missed it until the finale. It's still a dumb and evil thing to do to us.
I love BB, but Boardwalk characters have more depth while also sustaining a larger cast. BB focuses more on Walt and different set pieces, while BE spends a lot of time developing characters and their dynamics.
Not sure. And yeah, I assumed Walt went out and got the book himself as well. It's weird that Gale would give him a book and inscribe it in such a fashion after only meeting him for the very first time.
Although whoever accumulated those GIFs is missing at least one known book sighting: Walt puts his watch on it at the end of one of the season 5 episodes. The one where it zooms in on the watch and sounds like gun shots.
I'm serious mang, MitM is just 1 tier above BB, both among the top tho
Yes, very true. Seasons 3 & 4 had a *lot* of stalling because of this, too much for me. Although I do find that you can see the new confidence in the much more densely plotted first half of the fifth season already. I thought these were outstanding eight episodes.
(Funny though, what is this, the third interview in which Gilligan reminds us that he builds his stories around the love for either his characters or the actors, rather than around a singular artistic vision? Talk about one of the worst possible traits a writer could have. Speaks for itself really.)
The Real Napsta
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Just curious, where would you guys rate the show 24 in relation to MM, BB, BE and the other shows commonly discussed in this thread?
Trent Strong
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I disagree that the characters are skin deep, but I kept hearing who great season 2 was, and how much better it was than season 1. So now I'm 7 episodes into season 2 and the plot hasn't moved forward at all. 7 hours of TV and nothing interesting has happened and the plot hasn't advanced at all.
yeah but i do'nt remember the details, that's why i'm confused. Where is this booook from ? Is this gale's reffering to walter ? I don't remember him offering a book to walter..
polyh3dron
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my god people, is it really that hard to connect the dots on this, even with the fucking flashback?
Nowhere fucking near.
well earlier in this thread people were saying things like there is no relation between the past incident and the new one, like the writing is from somoene else, like a student or something.. that's why i'm lost. GAF is why!
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I don't think that's even remotely the worst trait a writer could have. It's just a trait a writer could have.
And at least he means it, unlike, say, Ronald Moore with his "it's the characters, stupid" followed by sharp right turns in characterization in the final hour or two of story.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Keep going.
If someone were to tell me what they thought was the best show of all time, I'd have to really struggle to hold back laughter if it wasn't one of these:
Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad
Seinfeld
The Shield
The Simpsons
Or these, at least in regard to advancing the medium:
I Love Lucy
The Honeymooners
All in the Family
And shows like Mad Men and Deadwood are on the brink.
24 deserves to be grouped in with mainstream schlock like House and Dexter, in my opinion.
Hank should pretend he never found the book and just wait for the writers to come up with a better "Aha!" moment.
/troll
Trent Strong
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I'll keep watching, for Gretchen Mol nudity if nothing else. But so far I like season 1 better than 2.
For reals? Dead fucking last, yet still watchable.
I thought 3 was decently paced, but Gus should've been out by half-way through S4. S5 has had Hank essentially sit on his ass, whole episodes devoted to odd minutiae like crushing a laptop that's already encrypted or acquiring more methylamine, 3 months crammed into a montage shown just after one, Hank finding the crucial sorta-deus ex machina via god's blessing on the mid-season finale, etc. Shit's been out of whack.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I do think I liked Season 1 more (despite what everybody else thinks), but Season 2 gets really fucking good toward the end.
He'll realize there's no TP and he'll be forced to wipe his ass with the page.
Dexter isn't a TV show, it's a turd. I still watch it, I don't know why, maybe because a fridge fell down on my head when I was 5 or 17.
Query: season 1 + maybe the first two episodes of season 2 vs. season 5 part 1?
faceless007
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24 is a neocon wet dream where every season revolves around the exact same ridiculous McGuffin plot device and the writers don't know how to write character arcs so they just kill them off instead.
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