onlyindreams
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Breaking Bad has never had an episode that was below an 8/10.
Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC
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The pan flute or whatever in this scene is so terribad. Particularly the last few notes as the bully is leaving the store.
I still loved the pilot, though.
polyh3dron
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lol fucking 4chan, doing Vince Gilligan's work for him and shit
HOLY SHIT
That shouldn't be a dealbreaker. The whole point of that story arc was to make you think about how ridiculous the drug war is.
Also, Season 3 had the best Stringer/Avon dynamic. That scene where they're reminiscing on the balcony is downright Shakespearean. IMO, Season 3 is the best Season.
S3 > S4 > S2 >>> S1 >>>>>>>>>>> S5.
"the mod"
theyre talking about me
C'mon, we all know who's really keeping us from having the White home be satisfyingly filmed...
I don't think that 1 is the worst, maybe. The show was already pretty fully formed in season 1. My only problem with season 1 is the way the ending just sort of happens. byproduct of the writer's strike.
In fact, season 5.1 might be bottom for me at the moment despite loving it. I guess I'd go 3>1>2>4>5.1. Though 4 has problem dog and the bombing, and 5.1 has mike's death and vamanos pest...I'm already feeling bad about this ranking. I'd need to do a full rewatch
haha! that's some '80s anime shit, oh god.
i liked it too, but it would've been better served as 2 or 3 parts. walt gets into cooking meth and killing people a little too soon for my liking.
i admit another flaw: "this is not meth." pffft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vr7p5CYWBM just as good as anything from this season
NOTE: i consider the first two eps of s2 to essentially be part of s1
1 just didn't feel well put together compared to these past few seasons. The music isn't that great, acting isn't on par across the board (aside from Walt), it has many moments that feel a bit corny. When I watched it initially the season just felt amazing. Going back showed it didn't age well, compared to the rest of the show that is. Still a very good first season.
S1 has a very....naive charm to it tho...Thats what I do like about it alot. It's so wierd looking at walt then and now...Same as the show from S1 to now.
At the same time S1 does feel very spotty at times....still love it but it's like it didn't know how to balance dark humor and drama.
At the same time S1 does feel very spotty at times....still love it but it's like it didn't know how to balance dark humor and drama.
Nameless
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My beef isn't so much with the moral of the story as it is its execution. The latter seasons saw the City of Baltimore become less of the show's organic lead and more of a vehicle to transport characters to resolutions, which frankly, I just didn't care about. So much time was dedicated to building a narrative where the characters were secondary to the complexities of the environments, institutions and systemic realities they revolved in & around, only for the things to take a jarring shift toward being more character driven in a conventional sense. Now I love The Wire, but the greatest show of all-time isn't allowed to sputter as blatantly as it did down the stretch.
Well played, i'm rewatching the show right now and just yesterday i saw that episode.
I love the metaphor of that scene. I think it's one of the most important scenes in the show.
Lem and Dutch took a while to grow on me before I really could accept them in their roles. And I really disliked Glenn Close when she was on. But yeah, the show as a whole never really dipped in quality.
Like every time they did those Tony Soprano dream sequences that went on for way too long.
The Shield is really the only drama I can think of that went on for 4+ seasons and never sputtered once. Maybe the Sopranos is up there as well, although it had moments when it was less than excellent.
Six Feet Under wasn't the same in Seasons 3 and 4.
The Wire had Season 5.
24 had mediocre seasons.
Six Feet Under wasn't the same in Seasons 3 and 4.
The Wire had Season 5.
24 had mediocre seasons.
I thought youth/the media were pretty topical considering the themes of the series. Showing the causes of criminality, including the school system and why nobody really hears about much of what you've seen while watching the show.
I don't understand the S5 hate. Not particularly different from any other season.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
My initial impression of Breaking Bad, both when I heard about the concept, and when I was watching season 1, was that it was a kind of quirky, off-beat comedy. Quite impressive the "drama" that it certainly became.
"How my hair look?"
Well you clearly have a hat on.
Nonsense. It was a drama from the very first episode. It had its funny bits, but the show was full of insightful character moments, had plenty of emotional weight and the plotting of a drama. Hell, just go back and watch the Krazy-8 episode and then tell me again that this was a "quirky, off-beat comedy".
Tuco is by far the worst written character/caricature the series has had. You want to talk about
Hamsterdam
The series picked up mid way through season three for me. Four was good and five has been great thus far.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I should have said from the first episode. Yes the elements of drama were always there. But it launched with a more darkly comedic tone. Consider the humor inherent in the opening scenes of Walt frantically driving an RV, mostly-naked wearing a gasmask. Or the way Jessie tumbled out of a meth lab with his pants down. The surprise sex with Skylar in the end, with the feel-good music... it was upbeat and humourous, not dark. I'm very glad it quickly went more dramatic, though (pizzas gettin throwing on rooves aside!)
the first episode of any series feels off. the rest of the season is consistent.
*sniff*
Neverender
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What about the twins?
Disagreed. Gale had been impressed by Walt's work right from the get go. Also consider how his notebook looked - between notes about making meth he suddenly has crap like Ron Paul 2008 sticker, random inscription and a poem by Whitman. It isn't that big leap of logic that if he had given Walt this book, he might have thrown something from himself in it.
I'd also partially disagree with the stance that sometimes making story around characters is a horrible trait. If Vince had followed with his original vision, Jesse would have been gone after Tuco arc. Can you imagine that? I certainly can't. He was only saved thanks to Vince's love for Aaron Paul's portrayal, and the time he was given to come up with new story during writer's strike.
The Wire is realist. Breaking Bad is not. What breaks suspension of disbelief in one does not in the other.
That said, I think a lot of characters on The Wire were a lot like Tuco so ... I dunno. I've, frankly, never really felt like The Wire's realism extended to the criminal side anywhere near so well as to the cop/professional/political side.
lazybones18
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I'm still unconvinced. "It's an honour working with you" makes sense, given that he's been in awe of Walt's abilities for some time. On the other hand, telling someone they're you're "other favorite W.W." isn't something you do at the end of your first day working together.
Also, it's terribly careless to include both the recipient's initials and your own initials, when you're involved together in a super-secret criminal undertaking ("Nigga, is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy?"). I would think Gale would be a little more careful, considering he was so well trusted by Gus. And not only was it careless of him to sign it "G.B.", it was also unnecessary. For these and other reasons, the revelation of the note comes off as something that was clearly shoehorned in after the fact.
A Human Becoming
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Yeah, that happened.
A Human Becoming
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Wow, completely missed that.
Gale struck you as a particularly careful person? I mean... your quote says it all right there. He kept notes and those were the first real break the DEA ever had on who Heisenberg really is.
I think one of the reasons Breaking Bad works is because the people in it aren't Moriarty. They are human and they make mistakes. Everyone in this show makes mistakes, no matter how badass they seem. The twins seem designed almost entirely to drive this point home as we're introduced to the notion that the presentation in the show of someone as being invincible (like Gus) is always just an illusion. They can look like the fucking terminator or they can seem like a cool, detached, meticulous businessman, but in the end they'll be brought down by their own human vulnerabilities.
And so will Walt.
Fair enough, so he wasn't particularly careful. I don't think that invalidates my other grievances with the use of the note as a story element (several of which are delineated in previous posts).
Warrior at Heart
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Walt should just say he saw the book in a second hand bookshop and had to buy it because he thought it was neat with the W.Ws.
S3-I kinda liked the domino effect idea this season, but anyways, so much shit went down this season. It had it's super tense moments, and it's really soft moments, and never does any of it feel out of place. The acting and writing was at its peak this season, at the time(before watching S4 and S5). And this was what cemented the awesomeness of the show for me. Plus I will never forget watching the Twins vs Hank with my GF, and the hospital scenes with Gus was just cherry on top, lol.
S5-So far(I think part 2 will make it the best in the series), this season if the most different by far. Gave the show a totally different tone imo, just to set us up for the end. I think hints of the end are scattered all across this 1st half, so I can't wait to go back and watch it. We got to see how far each character has come, for better or worse, and it was the first season with no real villain. I felt, we had a villain in Walt. Which was really fun to watch. Plus that scene with Hank taking a shit and finding out at the end was awesome, the shots/foreshadowing of the book in some scenes were just awesome, and the visual storytelling is at it's peak here. I don't think there are many shows that can tell a story visually like Breaking Bad can.
S4-Walt vs Gus, that's all... but I'll add more for the sake of elaboration. This season was so fucking intense, pulse pounding shit went down almost all season. Gus is easily the best villain the show has had so far, and the development of Jesse's character was just so well done. We see him rise as a person, and witness Walt fall as one, it was flawlessly executed. Oh wait, did I mention Walt vs Gus?
S2-Tuco was awesome, and the show really picked up. Plus we got Saul this season, what more do I need to say? Oh yea, and they basically introduced a bunch of new characters this season, I'd say more than any other season.
S1-Really slow and really subtle, perfect introduction to the series, even though it is the weakest of the bunch to me. It still puts the first Season of most shows to shame.
S5-So far(I think part 2 will make it the best in the series), this season if the most different by far. Gave the show a totally different tone imo, just to set us up for the end. I think hints of the end are scattered all across this 1st half, so I can't wait to go back and watch it. We got to see how far each character has come, for better or worse, and it was the first season with no real villain. I felt, we had a villain in Walt. Which was really fun to watch. Plus that scene with Hank taking a shit and finding out at the end was awesome, the shots/foreshadowing of the book in some scenes were just awesome, and the visual storytelling is at it's peak here. I don't think there are many shows that can tell a story visually like Breaking Bad can.
S4-Walt vs Gus, that's all... but I'll add more for the sake of elaboration. This season was so fucking intense, pulse pounding shit went down almost all season. Gus is easily the best villain the show has had so far, and the development of Jesse's character was just so well done. We see him rise as a person, and witness Walt fall as one, it was flawlessly executed. Oh wait, did I mention Walt vs Gus?
S2-Tuco was awesome, and the show really picked up. Plus we got Saul this season, what more do I need to say? Oh yea, and they basically introduced a bunch of new characters this season, I'd say more than any other season.
S1-Really slow and really subtle, perfect introduction to the series, even though it is the weakest of the bunch to me. It still puts the first Season of most shows to shame.
I was ranking The Wire's seasons, not Breaking Bad. If I had to rank Breaking Bad seasons, I'd go S4 > S2 > S3 > S5.1 > S1.
Season 5 of The Wire is almost universally considered the worst season, although some will claim Season 2 (which is incredible IMO) as the worst.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Season 5 of Breaking Bad is the best so far. No shitty filler!
Season 4 would have had it were it not for the first half of the season. Second half was stellar.
Season 4 would have had it were it not for the first half of the season. Second half was stellar.
No filler, but the writers are making some lackluster decisions in the name of hitting the story points they've deemed necessary.
I don't think the story points themselves are bad, but the way they go about setting up those events is a bit lacking.
Presumably Gus
WHAT
How can you say there was no filler and best so far? This (short) season had far too many montages with little to nothing going on, I don't get this at all. Especially after last season having some of best edge of your seat stuff yet. The first few episodes of 5 barely had any cliffhangers and only started to ramp up at the train episode
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You must be kidding.
Compared to some of the early season 4 episodes, season 5 has been more consistently action-packed. I preferred the ebbs and flows of previous seasons, though. The lows make the highs even more impactful. Also, montages have long been a staple of the show.
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