Zaraki_Kenpachi
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You guys are too fast for my editing.
And that's not really gaining, 
I thought your life total would actually go up and I was missing something on the ability.
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You guys are too fast for my editing.
And that's not really gaining, I thought your life total would actually go up and I was missing something on the ability.Zaraki_Kenpachi
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It went super fast for me, I just get an error and it closes the program though. I really wish I knew why it hates my computer.
Edit: Ah, fuck. It's because the main client is on my slave drive. Anyone know how to install to another drive? It doesn't prompt you at all during installation. :/
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Blech, guess I'll just wait then. :/ So dumb, I have it on my media drive with every other game and don't want to take up my small SSD with all the data. Frustrating. :/
Using Tamiyo for that seems silly, when you could just use Artful Dodge if you're running blue.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Eh, depends. If you can make a superfriends deck it wouldn't be the worst strategy.
Owlowiscious
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yeah yeah it'll be crap, but I'm considering a 4x tibalt, 4x chandra deck. what can I use as my 1 and 3 drops for protection?
Terrible to build around. Excellent, however, as a way to force inevitability. (Sorin's in fact is suuuuper threatening/opressive - he is real awkward to play against once he gets going.)
Yeah that's why I meant. If your only way to win is an ultimate the deck is too durdley even for me.
Owlowiscious
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On the other hand, I've seen way too many Ajani ultimates to think it's actually playable
The Technomancer
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Which? Cat maker, Destructor, or Giant Body with No Evasion or Defense?
Owlowiscious
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Er M13. Play some creature. Play Ajani with +1 and keep making that creature stronger to block with until you ultimate.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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You're a horrible human being
Supreme Verdict increases my desire to play Azorius. And that art is awesome.
Is there a functional difference between "can't be countered by spells and abilities" and "can't be countered"?
Edit: Is the wording different on Abrupt Decay since it can still be countered by killing its target maybe?
Is there a functional difference between "can't be countered by spells and abilities" and "can't be countered"?
Edit: Is the wording different on Abrupt Decay since it can still be countered by killing its target maybe?
narcosis219
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My guess is that the wording has to do with abilities like:
Isn't that still a triggered ability though?
narcosis219
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Yeah that's an ability
Oh, also:
YES
God damn, I need to know what the U/R one is RIGHT NOW
This is the weakest of the cycle so far, and as a card that will probably be a staple in Zombie decks, that's saying something. Love how far they are pushing the 1 mana uncommon slot this set.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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"This spell can counter spells that say they cannot be countered by spells or abilities"
The Technomancer
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Oh, also:
YES
Oh god. They might actually make Scavenge and the Golgari +1/+1 counter focus relevant.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Am I missing something? Jace is preordering at $25 but Vraska is preordering at $40? Da fuck?
Maybe something like "put Target spell on bottom of owner's library".
Jace is sick but looks underwhelming at first glance. Vraska's much "funner" but isn't as good.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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$40 just seems absolutely outrageous.
Just a quick note;
The "can't be countered" spells previewed today aren't control hate. In fact, they're both removal spells that are likely to be the backbone of new control strategies in standard.
They're tempo hate, pure and simple, which is something control players approve of wholeheartedly. When a blue deck can run 4 delver of secrets or swarm the board with spirit tokens, then proceed to leak every removal spell aimed at them, that is NOT FUN.
Having control spells that say "~ can't be countered" is, kind of ironically, the best possible thing that could've happened to control.
(This won't stop the morons on MTGS from ranting all day long about how uncounterability is ruining control and these two spells are proof that Wizards hates blue.)
The "can't be countered" spells previewed today aren't control hate. In fact, they're both removal spells that are likely to be the backbone of new control strategies in standard.
They're tempo hate, pure and simple, which is something control players approve of wholeheartedly. When a blue deck can run 4 delver of secrets or swarm the board with spirit tokens, then proceed to leak every removal spell aimed at them, that is NOT FUN.
Having control spells that say "~ can't be countered" is, kind of ironically, the best possible thing that could've happened to control.
(This won't stop the morons on MTGS from ranting all day long about how uncounterability is ruining control and these two spells are proof that Wizards hates blue.)
It is.
Complete and total truth. (been having this convo already w/ friends on facebook) Delver/Snapcaster backed them into a corner.
I also want to point out that Supreme Verdict being spoiled makes Jace a significantly better card, as he is now far more likely to be able to survive after using his divination ability.
The sudden presence of good control spells after ~3 years of LOL AGGRO STANDARD (caw blade was the closest thing to control in that timespan) is due to the shocklands being some of the only good manafixing available; just by being around, they tend to hose control strategies by causing multicolored decks to start at ~16 life. Food for thought.
..... also, do I need to point out how silly Collective Blessing is? If there's another Birds reprint, which I'm guessing there will be as they're native to the plane, Selesnya will have access to -twelve- good mana dorks. Imagine that fucking card out on turn 3.
The sudden presence of good control spells after ~3 years of LOL AGGRO STANDARD (caw blade was the closest thing to control in that timespan) is due to the shocklands being some of the only good manafixing available; just by being around, they tend to hose control strategies by causing multicolored decks to start at ~16 life. Food for thought.
..... also, do I need to point out how silly Collective Blessing is? If there's another Birds reprint, which I'm guessing there will be as they're native to the plane, Selesnya will have access to -twelve- good mana dorks. Imagine that fucking card out on turn 3.
Hey man, gotta roll with the lol troll.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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((((I wonder if there's anything worth preordering anymore. Price of duals is high now, maybe isperia... I still feel like Jace will stay around $25 but not sure.
FreedomFrisbee
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$40 for Vraska seems about par for even slightly usable walkers. It'll go down right quick.
All this can't be countered stuff can be seen as a double edged sword. On one hand it nerfs counterspells. On the other it means they could print some better counterspells. Better mean a force of will in the pipe. Maybe not the one itself, but some kinda 5 life instead of 1 life. Izzet if they wanted to be even crazier.
All this can't be countered stuff can be seen as a double edged sword. On one hand it nerfs counterspells. On the other it means they could print some better counterspells. Better mean a force of will in the pipe. Maybe not the one itself, but some kinda 5 life instead of 1 life. Izzet if they wanted to be even crazier.
Hmm, that actually gives me an idea that seems so obvious that it may have already been done. A Blue-Red spell that says "Counter target instant or sorcery spell and put a copy of it onto the stack under your control. You may choose new targets for the copy."
Boogalogist
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WOW at Abrupt Decay...that card is definitely gonna see play in Legacy!
REALLY strong card!
REALLY strong card!
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