Probably a slippery slope.
Vita "hacked," (PSP) homebrew on the way (not piracy)
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Probably a slippery slope.
So make an adapter that fits but holds the memory physically outside of the device and looks ugly as fuck.
As of now due to the card situation I won't be buying any more downloadable titles after blob. If it was hacked to use any memory? Would buy about 2-3 other games right away.
graywolf323
Member
yeah, this is no hello world and don't get why people are acting like the Vita has been cracked wide open
Jawmuncher
Member
I hope this gets squashed by sony really quick.
Sure I loved homebrew on my old PSP, but I don't want the system to be overlooked again.
Sure I loved homebrew on my old PSP, but I don't want the system to be overlooked again.
StevePharma
Member
Or a DS for that matter.
I was hoping 3DS would be cracked open to circumvent region lock, but alas that doesn't seem to happen any time soon.
DukeTogo1300
Member
I hate them so much.
TheGreyHulk
Member
wow.. i'm sure there is a tanto blade being shipped overnight to whoever was in charge of PSV security. if this is true, the PSV is doomed to piracy
It sounds like a small exploit. Sony can probably shut the hole relatively quickly once they know where the entry point is.
Keith Stack
Banned
Hopefully all the piracy will destroy Vita sales even more, and Vitas will become dirt cheap, making for a wonderful but inexpensive portable emulation device.
Imagine playing flawless N64 games on the go! Maybe even Dreamcast?
Unfortunately rampant piracy didn't stop the Wii and DS from selling like hotcakes. I hear developers even make some money off of Steam, and that's on the PC for goodness' sake!
Imagine playing flawless N64 games on the go! Maybe even Dreamcast?
Unfortunately rampant piracy didn't stop the Wii and DS from selling like hotcakes. I hear developers even make some money off of Steam, and that's on the PC for goodness' sake!
GoofsterStud
Member
I like how you guys are acting like this will harm developers view on the PSV....nothing really new A material has been announced in a while,this is a relatively new system.. Things are already getting cancelled, big games are getting rushed ports...
BTW: Homebrew does not equal piracy...just look at Monster Hunter sales.
PSX emulator, SNES emulator, better video player... That's what I used it for. I still bought my games. I would load them onto memory card as they booted faster, took less battery life, and had less noise.
So nice to meet you.
BTW: Homebrew does not equal piracy...just look at Monster Hunter sales.
PSX emulator, SNES emulator, better video player... That's what I used it for. I still bought my games. I would load them onto memory card as they booted faster, took less battery life, and had less noise.
So nice to meet you.
frAntic_Frog
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Takamura-San
Member
So much wrong on one post.....
KillerTravis
Banned
I think it sold badly here.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Yes, 3rd parties avoided the Wii because of piracy concerns.
WTF are you talking about?
GoofsterStud
Member
Your territories taste in games has been noted.
Keith Stack
Banned
You could easily replace "Wii" with "all-post-SNES-Nintendo-consoles"
GoofsterStud
Member
I will take that over the crap scheduled to be released any day. With the exception of Little Big Planet which I have pre-ordered.
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm. Pretty sure.
Sintoid
Member
I will take that over the crap scheduled to be released any day. With the exception of Little Big Planet which I have pre-ordered.
Have a lot of nice time with worthless emulators and crappy homemade free software, you deserve it ^_^
Vita will probably get hacked multiple times throughout its lifecycle. A hack like this incident doesn't mean the entire system has been compromised. Sony can still patch the hole(s) with little or no impact.
Now in the worst case, *if* Vita does get rooted, people will probably run Android and their games on it, plus whatever apps and emulators the homebrew developers come up with.
I will take that over the crap scheduled to be released any day. With the exception of Little Big Planet which I have pre-ordered.
Yeah can't wait to play SMB and Donkey Kong again on the 15th different console I've owned, it will be awesome.
Maybe it will get apps too, as nothing else I use daily has apps.....
Wait....
Shit.
Seriously, you'd have to be a complete and utter moron to want that over potential Gran Turismo, Killzone and all the other awesome NEW game ports we could have.
Hackers should fuck off IMO.
I do. If you ever come to Tokyo, send me a PM and we'll grab a beer.
Won't argue that we're a minority, but we exist
I can't talk for Yifanlu about his plans with his hacks, and there's usually no "common ground" or "consensus" among hackers. I personally would love to see a dreamcast emulator, haven't played ikaruga in a long time... but I'm not sure the Vita has enough horsepower...
I have three answers for that.
First, my own registration for the Beta got rejected, so I basically lost interest at that point.
Second I think is, most people who want those hacks (if we dismiss the piracy bit here) are thinking mostly of emulators, not other types of homebrews. You will never find a snes emulator on Playstation Mobile, so hacks will always be needed at least for that.
Third is, there are lots of succesful stories of programmers going from homebrews to "official", either with the Minis on the PSP, or PSM on the Vita. Simply, you don't hear them bragging too much about how they started as homebrew devs, but I do know quite a few of them personally.
GoofsterStud
Member
Worthless emulators....
What are you getting at?
Where's my showtime video player.
Games that would
A.) Never see the light of Day
B.) Games I don't care about
I must be stupid.... Emulators and video support for me!
Hell not even Sony has announced new ports lately.
Jawmuncher
Member
The PSP can basically emulate everything you need now.
Really don't see the point in adding the vita as well.
Sure there's a bit more power there, but i'll take new games from multiple devlopers over that.
Really don't see the point in adding the vita as well.
Sure there's a bit more power there, but i'll take new games from multiple devlopers over that.
Sintoid
Member
Well, if you like to play free android games on a system that can do Gravity Rush, Uncharted and Wipeout you'll probably do that only...
Worthless emulators....
What are you getting at?
Where's my showtime video player.
Worthless... but free!
Worthless emulators....
What are you getting at?
Where's my showtime video player.
ON YOUR PHONE/PAD/TABLET/MP3 PLAYER/PC/LAPTOP/SOME FRIDGE FREEZERS AND THE ODD WASHING MACHINE.
Bah ! Are you able to share more details about your proposal ? Do you know what happens to that Vita Remote Desktop app so far ? I'm very curious about how open this PS Mobile platform really is.
Great ! That's what I wanted to hear.
I can understand the desire to run competitors' emulators on Vita, but I'm not going to comment on it. ^_^
GoofsterStud
Member
PSP emulation isn't perfect. Neogeo isn't perfect. PSX can have improvements. Dreamcast is now capable...N64 emulator is great... Currently Android/Iphone is not good for that, the controls don't make it ideal.
Say what you want...but I'll take good homebrew over the lack of upcoming content any day.
PS: These imaginary games you are hoping for, were never going to happen... Cry me a river.
Say what you want...but I'll take good homebrew over the lack of upcoming content any day.
PS: These imaginary games you are hoping for, were never going to happen... Cry me a river.
Sye d'Burns
Member
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
GoofsterStud
Member
You mean the retailers that have been so inclined to store them with an average sales of less than 1 per retailer in the last few months.
Yes, homebrew is the problem. >.>
At least you guys have something else to focus your anger toward.
Aye, some folks, perhaps many people, may not mind Android on Vita at all !
Personally, I think we are just over-reacting.
In the long term, I suspect Sony will continue to evolve the basic/current Vita platform towards (or on top of) other OSes. These hacks may be invaluable to help Sony find existing holes. YifanLu doesn't sound malicious thus far.
Sintoid
Member
As I already said, have a lot of nice time
Mysterious Stranger
Member
I predict a Sony forced FW update soon.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
lol well done
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
I realize that Vita has immense homebrew potential but such a news will surely scare off whatever devs that were going to develop games for it. The install base is what, 2.5 million now? So if it gets hacked at this stage, it's pretty much game over for the system. Sony does not have the strong IPs that Nintendo does so they cannot support the system for a long time on their own.
If it gets hacked after three or four years, that's totally fine since, it will have an established userbase that will support it, and fast hardware sales due to the hack will actually prove to be beneficial then.
Sony isn't going to sit quiet though. I think they realize the importance of the system not getting hacked so early (like they pulled some exploitable PSP games from the store in a day). As it is, currently I have no interest in any homebrew, and just want to see some ambitious third-party games.
If it gets hacked after three or four years, that's totally fine since, it will have an established userbase that will support it, and fast hardware sales due to the hack will actually prove to be beneficial then.
Sony isn't going to sit quiet though. I think they realize the importance of the system not getting hacked so early (like they pulled some exploitable PSP games from the store in a day). As it is, currently I have no interest in any homebrew, and just want to see some ambitious third-party games.
GoofsterStud
Member
No Sony's top developers avoid the Vita like the plague... The Sony Developers that release Vita games all get axed...
This is the message you want to send third party developers!
Note: Those third party games weren't coming, with vita's lack of momentum...
+1
This is actually my worst fear if the Vita ever gets pirated: it will give once again an excuse for people to justify the commercial failure of the console.
For the PSP, we've had "piracy ruined the console", and for the Vita, now we're seeing "oh no guys, the console is already not doing great, you are going to make things worse", which will quickly turn into "piracy ruined the vita" in a few years, with everybody dismissing the fact that the vita currently represents less than 1% of the gaming market in numbers of devices, and that nobody cares about it except hackers.
Pretty Much yeah, i don't know what result of homebrewing will do overall but if it get Sony to somehow speed up feature releases to compete that would be really nice.
Mysterious Stranger
Member
I wish VITA had some games to play first before I can buy it.
Sintoid
Member
Did you ask them? You're saying that Guerrilla and Media Molecule are about to die?
GoofsterStud
Member
Did you ask them? You're saying that Guerrilla and Media Molecule are about to die?
2 out of 5...good odds. >.>
I think for PSP, piracy did went too far -- especially in Asia. I know people in Asia who pirated entire library of PSP games without paying a single cent. But there were also other reasons causing its relatively low software sales in the west.
It's probably untrue to blame piracy as the sole reason for PSP's performance. At the same time, it's probably too simplistic to exclude piracy completely too.