I think most people were responding to this shot from the beginning of the trailer:
Looks like that one character from Dragon Age 2.
Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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Looks like that one character from Dragon Age 2.
Hellsing321
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lol I feel bad for whoever at Sega has to run the twitter account.
You haven't answered my question.
How are Ubisoft going to survive on the profit from eight million copies of Assassin's Creed a year? That's not much over three hundred million dollars, minus the marketing and development, which is probably half that, they're banking $150M a year, Ubisoft is eight thousand people, in a lot of buildings that need powering.
When will people ever learn that port begging and whining about exclusivity is not only poor content but it's bannable?
On another note I'm actually kinda excited for this. No idea what Bayonetta 1 was about but seeing so many people so happy for this sequel kinda makes me want to give it a try.
On another note I'm actually kinda excited for this. No idea what Bayonetta 1 was about but seeing so many people so happy for this sequel kinda makes me want to give it a try.
CadetMahoney
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pretty much, plus game is slated for after mar 2013, a long time before any OT.
NinjaTehFish
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Now there is, not if the B-tier releases are killed off.
None of the third party publishers have enough Assassin's Creed style mega franchises that they can survive on only them.
I think most people were responding to this shot from the beginning of the trailer:
But that game has genuinely fantastic graphics, much nicer image quality than what we're getting on current gen systems and it looks to have a nice steady framerate even in this early state (no frame tearing!).
The shadowing is super crisp and the lighting is very nice, sure the models aren't super high poly but they certainly don't need to be.
Whatever, people will realize that game was amazing after it's been out for 2 years and then beg for a sequel. Same shit happened with pretty much everything Kamiya made after DMC.
This thread has been very satisfying to read. In trying to understand the anger I imagined a beloved series getting into a platform I don't have and have no intention to get, something crazy like Mario on the iPhone, but I realized the comparison doesn't hold, we are talking about a dead series brought to life here. Better would be, I don't know, Homeworld 3 on e iPhone, and it still doesn't hold, because is not like its going to get touch controls only all of the sudden. Seriously the anger and dissapointment is dumb and fanboyish, and show the true color of so many people.
Now I always wanted to play the first game but had no PS3 or 360 and no plan to buy one, so I couldn't. I was nowhere near as bitter as some people here though, I really hope it gets ported.
Now I always wanted to play the first game but had no PS3 or 360 and no plan to buy one, so I couldn't. I was nowhere near as bitter as some people here though, I really hope it gets ported.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I think most people were responding to this shot from the beginning of the trailer:
Nice N64 graphics.
The people are very low poly. It was a mistake to zoom in on them like that at the very start of the trailer. It's obviously fine during gameplay because it's so zoomed out, but I can't blame people for being taken aback at first when they saw that. I think the game looks pretty nice in play, myself.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Now if only people would actually bother buying the game after all this outrage/excitement.
Hint: They won't.
Hint: They won't.
NinjaTehFish
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They wont be thats the thing, for instance just dance profits on wii is basically funding ubi's hd efforts the b tier is literally the foundation of the a tier.
InfiniteNine
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I'll buy it 3 times. )<
I'm just really glad Nintendo is handling publishing on Platinum Games games.
Like, they really fucking deserve it man. And Nintendo will hopefully help them advertise it too. They just really deserve the money and recognition, and i'm glad someone is finally doing it for them.
Like, they really fucking deserve it man. And Nintendo will hopefully help them advertise it too. They just really deserve the money and recognition, and i'm glad someone is finally doing it for them.
ElectricBlanketFire
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The first time I saw the trailer I honestly thought it was a Wheel Of Fortune game.
Nocturnowl
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It's taken me far too long to journey through this thread, i'm not sure why I did but it's been quite a ride.
Then of course I discover the wall of shame which could have saved me some time, ah well.
Well, i'm looking forward to this.
Then of course I discover the wall of shame which could have saved me some time, ah well.
Well, i'm looking forward to this.
radioheadrule83
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Good read!
I scarcely know any of those posters, but some of the comments get the biggest SMH possible
IMO most guys who are port begging this would be more comfortable with an iOS/Android release than a Nintendo exclusive =/
Anyway, glad Nintendo gave Bayo 2 a 1 up
Bob Coffee
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Man the salt in this thread damn. I don't see what the problem is, game you like is a particular on console. Buy said console to play it. There should be more outrage at a second tablet controler costing $150 than bayo2 on wii u. We should be happy bayo2 is even getting made. Thanks based p+ and nintendo.
I'm saying they will continue to escalate the arms race until only a few publishers survive, and those few publishers can then run razor thin profits. You're throwing out numbers which are essentially arbitrary and cannot be specifically quantified. The strategy is to bleed the competitors dry, so that those who remain can survive comfortably in a space that no longer has 12 or 20 or 40 competitors (who remembers Jaleco? Acclaim? etc) but only 3 or 4.
All four of the big publishers will continue to escalate the arms race until they have successfully crowded as many people out as they can. The "limit" on that has not been reached yet.
This is not a new concept and we can see the same process in virtually every similar industry. The movie studios, for example, run razor thin profit margins overall, constantly increasing the budgets on their "AAA" films, and this prohibits any newcomers from entering what is essentially a five horse race at this point.
Music, too, has been whittled down to three major competitors. It is not cheap to publicize and produce big, flashy acts like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears, so random people can't find great musical acts and expect to produce that artist and make a big label out of it.
Raising the barriers to entry is the basic strategy of all these industries. They sacrifice profits for stability.
Yea not the best showing.
Ladies and gentleman, I nominate this post for 'Post of the Generation'.
Alternatively: Vienetta.
I can't finish this joke, something about ice cream, I dunno.
It costs money to make a game look blacker and whiter.
Well, then they should have watched the trailer until the end (or heck, even just past the very few seconds!). They would've realized that the game looks fantastic!
Game assets are built at higher qualities so they can be used to bake down normal maps. If newer consoles support 1080p + those models would have to be done at even higher quality to bake down and look good at increased resolution.
If Xbox720 relies heavily on tessellation developers now need to make displacement maps for every model, and/or create the model with some sort of parametric data built into it so it can be tessellated properly.
If 720 games are going to have better subsurface scattering shaders then models will require extra maps. If hair rendering is better that new hair rendering is going to involve new maps and more physics bounds. In general a lot more stuff will probably need physics data built in, more precise physics bounds, etc.
Development costs will level off when developers consciously decide to pick their battles, not because of tooling or process changes.
Edit: That P-100 pic is a perfect example. Those models are relatively simple and that works for the game. But if some self-proclaimed "hardcore" gamer (lol) is like "looks like an N64 game" and some developer decides to please that guy by going crazy modeling people who end up being 30 pixels tall on screen then costs will in no way level off.
Buddha Beam
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Isn't it awesome when a new console generation begins?
In a few years, everyone'll be all, "Like, ALL the systems are great, man!" Don't worry about it.
It's already happening.
Fuck this would actually be awesome. I can't wait for an FE on the WiiU. Using the pad to direct troops and shit will be sex.
We have to screencap this post so it officially becomes OT subtitle in due time.
I can agree that it was a mistake to zoom in on those characters in the trailer but just look at the rest of the footage. Fantastic sense of style and technicaly super solid. Does not look like a budget title in any way shape or form.
Bayonetta 2 is going to look absolutely amazing and this is coming from someone with a monster PC running a GTX690.
The WiiU has 1gb of ram and 32mb of Edram combined with a more powerful gpu than 360 or PS3, stuff made exclusively for the system is going to look great.
fantastic.
Hot Coldman
Banned
eBayonetta
Like Bayonetta, but with an addiction to online shopping and minimalist logo redesigns
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Please leave your stupid console bullshit out of the official thread please. D:
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It's Kid Icarus all over again. I was like "Is this real?" And it was. And I was like AWESOME.
Nintendo is so boss.
And to think there is another conference by Nintendo Direct later on.
Magius is pleased.
I'll get a Wii U and this game eventually but not for a while. Not until a couple games I want comes out for it.
3DS and Wii U stuff. So many games, so little time.
>_<
Nintendo is so boss.
And to think there is another conference by Nintendo Direct later on.
Magius is pleased.
I'll get a Wii U and this game eventually but not for a while. Not until a couple games I want comes out for it.
3DS and Wii U stuff. So many games, so little time.
>_<
Net_Wrecker
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THIS is what's important. Nintendo just took Bayonetta by the hand from her grave and pulled her up for another round. Damn the fact that it's not on PS360, it's HAPPENING, period.
Combichristoffersen
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I remember Acclaim. Mostly due to those awful Simpsons games for the NES and the Master System, but still. I even remember Flying Edge who, if I'm not mistaken, were really just a subsidiary of Acclaim.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I think the wall of shame is justified. If your not a typical Nintendo fan, this is like a punch in the gut. I've been googling for the past 20 mins and even Im worried. 300 pounds is a lot of money these days to spend on one console that as it stands won't get a lot of use outside of this one game.
I really want to play Bayo 2 and to a lesser extent darksiders 2 U and NG3RE, but I do feel that I will probably end up selling my wii u within a year of purchase.
Nintendo IPs just do not do it for me, I hate motion controls, I cant see myself gaming with that tablet controller for long periods of time and I honestly feel that it will be a gimmick shoehorned into every game on the system.
But on the other hand, I know I'm not getting a PS4 or Xbox 720 at launch anyway, so I can have a little fun with the system for a while. I don't need to keep it for the whole generation (unless Bayo 3 is exclusive as well :/)
If buying a system I know I won't love is what I gotta do to play the sequel to one of my favourite IPs of All time, then I'll do it.
I really want to play Bayo 2 and to a lesser extent darksiders 2 U and NG3RE, but I do feel that I will probably end up selling my wii u within a year of purchase.
Nintendo IPs just do not do it for me, I hate motion controls, I cant see myself gaming with that tablet controller for long periods of time and I honestly feel that it will be a gimmick shoehorned into every game on the system.
But on the other hand, I know I'm not getting a PS4 or Xbox 720 at launch anyway, so I can have a little fun with the system for a while. I don't need to keep it for the whole generation (unless Bayo 3 is exclusive as well :/)
If buying a system I know I won't love is what I gotta do to play the sequel to one of my favourite IPs of All time, then I'll do it.
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