Either the wii u will be successful and more games an individual will want will be made sooner or later, or it will bomb like everyone is predicting and they can pick up a wii u and bayonetta 2 for $150 in a few years.
Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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Thunder Monkey
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Every person on GAF has their own definitions.
I'm personally willing to call anyone that wastes six or more hours a week on videogames a hardcore gamer.
I'm not surprised to see there is port begging going on, the first was a PS3/360 game after all. I guess back when the first game came out there might have been some wii owners disappointed they didnt get a version given they also had platinum support via mad world.
But the reaction today is astounding.
Kamiya really got death threats?! Really?
That's just insane.
But the reaction today is astounding.
Kamiya really got death threats?! Really?
That's just insane.
Saint Gregory
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This is a good way of explaining why the posters angry over this news feel the way that they do but none of us really know what those othe 49 flavors of cookies are going to be. We can assume that we may not like the other 49 cookies based on past experiences but would it make sense that if the company were capable of making that one flavor of cookie fantastic that the other 49 would suck?
The point is that some people are being unreasonably close minded about this announcement. Be happy that the game exists and then wait and see if more games get announced that excite you as much as Bayo2.
And now I'm hungry for some reason...
They should try reviving some of their own franchises first.
gamergirly
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Zomba13
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His response: "Ok"
TheKaeptain
Banned
HOLY SHIT!
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
That is key right here, if Nintendo plays their hands right, the console can be the home of many mid-tier and niche Japanese games along with the big franchises.
The moment the "specs" came out, I realized that this console can position itself quite well with rising development costs (hell, many development houses would still be alive had they gave Wii some games). Then when Nintendo got exclusive rights for 2 platinum games and Capcom's Monster Hunter franchise, that only tells me that Nintendo is starting to send a signal to the Japanese gaming community that they are serious.
Nintendo is in prime position if they can sustain this momentum, and developers would be stupid to ignore Nintendo again.
Samurai_Heart
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Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
That's fair, and a rational response to the situation.
Personally, I would view this news more as an indication that future potential may be a lot more unpredictable than had been previously expected. There may be a lot more that ends up justifying Wii U as a multiplatform purchase for people who weren't interested previously.
I will say, that in terms of being an early adopter for multiple consoles, stuff like this makes me move away from waiting for PS4 and 720, and towards Wii U + only one of those. Depending on what kind of software Wii U gets, exactly, the horsepower issue may end up being irrelevant. Again, it's up in the air.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Every old folks home that has a wii bowling night 6 nights a week for one hour is hardcore.
I see.
Kacho
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I believe they have alluded to doing just that.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
They just revived Kid Icarus and this past gen they revived Punch Out.
What do they have left? The Mother series... and Mach Rider?
BurnOutBrighter
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PS360 full edition with all DLC and bonus levels a year after release, I'm calling it.
That's why I put the " " on my first reply and I didn't want to start a discussion about what it takes to be one or not, because to be fair: I don't know. I just play the games heh.
Not happening. Nintendo is publishing it, not at all a similar situation to Resident Evil 4. Even if they were allowed to I doubt that Platinum would choose to put it anywhere else after Nintendo saved all of their work from being tossed in the trash.
gamergirly
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Please don't do this
Just now saw this. I hope you aren't serious. I really, really, really hope you aren't serious
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
StarTropics and.. uhm. Ice Climbers?
Really? Haha. Kamiya is awesome.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I would love for Ice Climbers to get the Kid Icarus treatment. Mostly because whatever emerged would have to be utterly bizarre.
Thunder Monkey
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Can't believe I actually forgot StarTropics.
Take my Nintendo fanslut card away please. I no longer deserve it.
*shame*
I think so at least.
Wasting that amount of hours a week on something with absolutely no payoff or endgame? That's fucking hardcore.
Crash Station
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Link?
"('@')goo goo"
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
If they followup with Valkyria 4, Skies of Arcadia 2, and Chrono (something) I will love them forever
Wyndstryker
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If they followup with Valkyria 4, Skies of Arcadia 2, and Chrono (something) I will love them forever
Don't forget a Panzer Dragoon and a Shenmue
Phonomezer
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It wasn't technically possible for it to be on the Wii, it's more understandable.
People are pissed off that a sequel for a niche game they supported is now only attainable through a $430 (AUD) pay wall, on top of the cost of the game itself. I think it's fair to feel this way, I was certainly pissed off upon hearing about its exclusive status.
As others have pointed out (to exhaustion), B2 would probably never happen without Nintendo picking up the financial slack, but that isn't a reason to poo-poo how others, who probably had no intention to purchase a Wii U, are feeling.
MatthewB92
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Tears everywhere.
Why did you have to bring that up ;(
Because exclusives never get ported to other consoles in time.....
>_>
Nobody complains that you can only play God of War on a Sony console, Halo on a MS console, Zelda on a Nintendo console...
Why is this such a big ruckus??
Some people need growing up to do.
>_>
Nobody complains that you can only play God of War on a Sony console, Halo on a MS console, Zelda on a Nintendo console...
Why is this such a big ruckus??
Its just a game... you either get the system to play it or you dont.... They might port it, they might not... its the nature of the beast
Some people need growing up to do.
Best part of this thread is it all goes along well listening to Bayonetta's OST. Keep up the good work people!
Try to get "Nintendo is ruining my childhood for publishing this" by the time I get to the Outrun theme, thanks.
Could use some kind of Mass fan Effect.
Try to get "Nintendo is ruining my childhood for publishing this" by the time I get to the Outrun theme, thanks.
Could use some kind of Mass fan Effect.
Barack Lesnar
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The best third-party game ever, eh? Game sold a million copies. Sales don't = quality but you'd think more than a million people played the best third-party game ever. This is a nice get for Nintendo but it isn't a system seller outside of maybe a couple hundred thousand super hardcore Bayonetta fans.
Bravo
Tears everywhere.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
There's no chance in Hell they'd ever revive StarTropics though.
Which means the chance is still better than the chances for Sony reviving Medievil, Ghosthunter or Primal.
Those are all first-party IPs owned by their respective platform holders, while Bayonetta is a former multiplat IP.
AlphaTwo00
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Ice Climber: Act Zero.
Tells the touching origin story of twins who dared to climb the highest mountains. It's a gritty take on survival platforming.
djplaeskool
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Kinect + Windows Phone 7
It is possible to use hyperbole to describe things you enjoy immensely.
I think you're reaching a bit too far there.
I think it's just Nintendo reaching towards what they naturally see as the "core" games - "core" Japanese games from companies like Platinum, Sega, and Square Enix. I think that's what they still think of when they ask themselves the question "what do the core gamers want?"
Remember, the current environment where the core console space is ruled by western studios has really only occurred in the last console generation. It seems to me like it's almost passed Nintendo by, or something like that. A lot of the biggest console developers this past gen are companies that were almost PC exclusive before roughly 2005 and have no working relationship with Nintendo. Bethesda, Epic, id, Irrational, Arkane, Valve, Obsidian, and BioWare have collectively shipped virtually no games on Nintendo hardware. They and Nintendo are probably still pretty foreign to each other. That's why almost the only western "core" games you're seeing appear on the Wii U right now are from the big guys who've always been publishing on console like EA, Ubisoft, Activision, etc.
Honestly I think this is Nintendo's greatest weakness when it comes to 3rd party. In the last several years a whole new environment of development talent has shown up that is completely foreign to Nintendo. Thus far we haven't seen a huge amount of effort from either side to get to know the other in business terms.
From Nintendo's relationship with Platinum and how they treat Retro, I'd like to think that the people up there making the business calls recognize talent and the actual need to foster it. Iwata himself stated that Nintendo probably won't buy developers outright anymore because he fears talent leak - something few other gaming executives even acknowledge. He even talked about it as part of the reason Nintendo put Retro to work on Mario Kart 7 and Donkey Kong. What I'm saying is, it would be a shame if that "eye" for development talent at Nintendo were to completely overlook the likes of Valve, Irrational, and the like. I'd like to see one of those companies establish the relationship with Nintendo that they have with Platinum.
I think it has been explained rather well, so if you still don't get it you never will.
Round and round we go.
omg I'm in tears. The comment about it being delicious made me lose it after!
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