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Mother Jones: "Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters"

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Fucking scum bag dude.

Now we know why he pulled that shit last week!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/romney-said-hed-take-advantage-of-iran-hostage-li
Okay, not to defend him, but that exerpt is very misleading. Some idiot asks about the hostage stuff. Romney doesn't really speak on it, but says the public doesn't care much about foreign policy anymore. So even if he did something wonderful there he wouldn't get credit, like Obama and Bin Laden.
 
Real speculation or "speculation"?

It wasn't speculation. It was blatantly buried in Washington by Republicans and Democrats.

Robert Parry, the reporter who originally broke Iran-Contra, was all over it.

But the dismissive House task force report effectively buried the October Surprise story as an historical issue. Washington's conventional wisdom readily accepted that there had been no Republican contacts to Iran in 1980; that Casey, George Bush and other Reagan campaign officials had been falsely accused.

Then, last year, senior representatives of Iran's current government held informal talks in Europe with Americans close to President Clinton. Like deMarenches, these Iranians were amused at how wrong the House task force had been. Casey indeed had made secret overtures to Iran during the hostage crisis of 1980, these Iranians said.

The new Iranian claims were relayed to the highest levels of the Clinton administration. But fearing how a reopened October Surprise investigation might look, the White House refused to reconsider the House task force findings. For reasons perhaps explained best by Washington's acute sense for sniffing career danger, the October Surprise story had become one of the capital's most powerful taboos.

It's taboo to this day.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile2.html
http://scotthorton.org/2012/07/11/robert-parry/
 
So, why does Romney hate retail? I'm sure that most of the workers (me being one of them) receive tax returns, and a good deal of retail sales are made off of those tax returns.
 
I said it and I'll say it again: it was the first time I saw Romney looking lively, sincere and with some fire in his belly.

He is the most perfect representation of the people that are ruining America and much of the Western world.
The banter with the guy not eating was actually kinda funny. Shows that he does have a sense of humour. Problem is that it doesn't fit with the vanilla, Salt of the Earth persona that he's projecting, so he ends up seeming pretty robotic.
 
Okay, not to defend him, but that exerpt is very misleading. Some idiot asks about the hostage stuff. Romney doesn't really speak on it, but says the public doesn't care much about foreign policy anymore. So even if he did something wonderful there he wouldn't get credit, like Obama and Bin Laden.

In response, the presidential candidate said: "I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity."

This is response to a question about taking advantage of a 'hostage-crisis-like-situation' isn't misleading.
 
This is response to a question about taking advantage of a 'hostage-crisis-like-situation' isn't misleading.
Yes, it is. Like I said, that was the question, but Romney changes it to getting Iran to stand down on nukes, he would take advantage of it. If you find that bad, because it kind of is, that's fine, but its pretty clear he wasn't speaking about the hostages.
 
Okay, not to defend him, but that exerpt is very misleading. Some idiot asks about the hostage stuff. Romney doesn't really speak on it, but says the public doesn't care much about foreign policy anymore. So even if he did something wonderful there he wouldn't get credit, like Obama and Bin Laden.

Wait what I'm confused.

What are we misreading about his exact quote?

He's clearly talking about political opportunity to take down PBO. He just tried it last week.
 
Who is running Romney's campaign and allowing him to A. Say this stuff, B. Let it get out, and C. Not really even trying to spin it into something less ridiculous and offensive?

His campaign manager is doing a terrible job. Politicians have to know that they can't say things like that in an era where everyone has cell phones with cameras and anyone is fair game to sell someone else out. Nothing is private anymore, especially for a candidate for president. His manager needs to get his guy in check and understand that. He should really make a script and force Mitt to stick to it at all times. Mitt sticking to a script and not veering off even when pressed hard is going to be better for him than what he's been doing for the past week and a half.
 
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What a tiny mouth he has. Can anyone make it smaller for me?
 
Who is running Romney's campaign and allowing him to A. Say this stuff, B. Let it get out, and C. Not really even trying to spin it into something less ridiculous and offensive?

His campaign manager is doing a terrible job. Politicians have to know that they can't say things like that in an era where everyone has cell phones with cameras and anyone is fair game to sell someone else out. Nothing is private anymore, especially for a candidate for president. His manager needs to get his guy in check and understand that. He should really make a script and force Mitt to stick to it at all times. Mitt sticking to a script and not veering off even when pressed hard is going to be better for him than what he's been doing for the past week and a half.

Read stormfront/foxnews comments.

People support him for finally standing up and speaking, showing courage, etc.

People are stupid as dog fuck.

Campaign is on autopilot, as long as Obama is black, they agree with anything he does.
 
Okay, not to defend him, but that exerpt is very misleading. Some idiot asks about the hostage stuff. Romney doesn't really speak on it, but says the public doesn't care much about foreign policy anymore. So even if he did something wonderful there he wouldn't get credit, like Obama and Bin Laden.

Yes, it is. Like I said, that was the question, but Romney changes it to getting Iran to stand down on nukes, he would take advantage of it. If you find that bad, because it kind of is, that's fine, but its pretty clear he wasn't speaking about the hostages.

Just saying, Romney is quite easy to attack. No need to mislead while doing so.
I understand what you're saying, but your interpretation doesn't really make sense with how he says it:

"I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity."

"something of that nature" = similar hostage-type situation to what happened with Carter/Reagan
 
I don't mean that Obama would be sitting in the corner and stewing over Romney, but I would imagine his personal feeling towards Romney has gotten substantially worse.

Yeah, I don't think he cares as long as he wins.
 
Fun times:
CNN said:
Nobody's really talking about this slice of the pie, but Mitt Romney's "47%" who pay no federal income tax include several thousand of the highest-income households in the country.

The Tax Policy Center estimates that 4,000 households with incomes over $1 million ended up with zero federal income tax liability in 2011. Another 14,000 made between $500,000 and $1 million.

Combined, those households represented just 0.025% of the more than 76 million who did not pay.

But their presence in the No Tax Club underlines the fact that the tax code is chock full of tax breaks and exceptions benefiting people up and down the income scale.

Why do these people think they're entitled to caviar?!?

Source
 
Obama has been consistent with his argument on redistribution, the 1998 "redistribution" he talks about sounds more like a safety net. But he has argued that our constitution is flawed, that it simply limits the power of the government from doing things to you, not what it can do for you. Listen to this interview form 2001, nothing about him has changed....

Obama 2001 NPR interview

This is far more radical than the clip from 1998.

No it isn't. The term "wealth" as it's used here (and nearly EVERY TIME he uses it) is referring to things like quality education, healthcare, jobs - opportunity, in effect. It does not mean "checks from the government" , or "taxes from rich people" as conservatives would have everyone believe. He has never implied that.

"Wealth" doesn't mean cash. It means "means". Means to lift communities out of poverty. Means like access to job training or quality education in a safe environment where guns and drugs aren't dominating the neighborhood. That kind of thing can't be bought. It comes from empowering powerless people.

A "wealthy" neighborhood isn't just a neighborhood with nicer houses. Its a neighborhood that has nicer schools and nicer hospitals and healthier grocery stores and less violence and less drugs. It's an environment where people can thrive, and that's what the president wants for everyone.
 
No it isn't. The term "wealth" as it's used here (and nearly EVERY TIME he uses it) is referring to things like quality education, healthcare, jobs - opportunity, in effect. It does not mean "checks from the government" , or "taxes from rich people" as conservatives would have everyone believe. He has never implied that.

"Wealth" doesn't mean cash. It means "means". Means to lift communities out of poverty. Means like access to job training or quality education in a safe environment where guns and drugs aren't dominating the neighborhood. That kind of thing can't be bought. It comes from empowering powerless people.

I think you mean redistributing the means of production, because he's a commie.
 
So when can we expect some new polls that reflect Romney's recent controversy? Just browsing the web, its hard to tell if his recovery is working or not.
 
So when can we expect some new polls that reflect Romney's recent controversy? Just browsing the web, its hard to tell if his recovery is working or not.

Probably a week or so, because some polls are rolling averages for a week. I'd say check out what Nate Silver says next week.
 
I think it's unfair to judge people on what they say or what they've done in the past. Judge them on what they hint at possibly doing if you vote them into office.

- The Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan School of Campaigning
 
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Fucking scum bag dude.

Now we know why he pulled that shit last week!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/romney-said-hed-take-advantage-of-iran-hostage-li

You guys should be proud! This is the true spirit of capitalism. Seeking advantage for personal growth! Mitt Romney response shows he is a true businessman where people are numbers and numbers affect cash inflow and outflow. Yes, he is a sociopath, but then again, most people heading large MNC are. You want your leaders to make strong decisions, don't you? Even if it means people may die or get hurt. The greater $..err... good (ref. Hot Fudge). They are just numbers for posthumous statistical analysis and archiving. Reminds me of the last episode of Sherlock's first season when Sherlock asks the villain about people dying, to which he responds, "That's what people do!"

Thank the internet for one thing. "Transparency".
 
There's 2 things I really enjoy:

- Watching the Packers/Jets/Steelers/Cowboys lose
- Watching Republicans be forced to constantly defend the idiocy of fellow Republicans
 
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