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slightconfuse
Banned
i dont get why people are getting hung up on the rape thing. it was not done in bad taste and it served the story well. that is probably the only time it will be in the comic. the way people are talking about it, this comic killed someones dog.
Too late, already sent the email to add it to my order...and besides, the book stars a female so of course someone tries to rape her. I don't think that will completely put me off book depending how its handled so i look forward to the first two issues.
Anywho, speaking of rape, the opening narrative of The Shadow #1 was the most depressing thing i've read in recent memory....still a good issue but I'm not sure i want more. I like fun stuff.
slightconfuse
Banned
the rape thing was not bad, her friend gets into some trouble and she saves her. nothing tasteless at all. i thought i was a great intro to the concept of gemworld as someone who is not familar with the characters
krypt0nian
Banned
Fantastic read really, both stories.
slightconfuse
Banned
yea i enjoyed the beowulf story as well.
krypt0nian
Banned
I had no idea what to expect and the concept surprised me.
It's a big smelly fat turd in the punchbowl is the problem.
krypt0nian
Banned
Complete nonsense. Both stories had a great feel, and good exposition.
Her mom especially is likable, and Lopresti is killing it. And Saiz on Beowulf is doing his best stuff ever.
Yeah, such a turd.
slightconfuse
Banned
i dont know ifyou read the comic but its not anything of the sort. amethyst has been training to help take back gemworld. . when she uses her training to help someone that is being a hero. Heroes save people. her friend was in trouble and she saved her. if that is a smelly turd then stop reading comics.
everything was handled great . you are acting like this is identity crisis 2 or something. The new amethyst is a great character
I caught up on Uncanny X-Men (would have been nice if more of Gillen's run was on MDCU). A fun run over all, but I am pretty sure GAF ruined most of the best panels for me 
The Sinister stuff was probably the highlight of the run for me. That has to be the first time a Supervillain cloned weaponized cow versions of himself.
The Sinister stuff was probably the highlight of the run for me. That has to be the first time a Supervillain cloned weaponized cow versions of himself.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Way overblown, but this is GAF and that is to be expected here. People even read too much into Alan Scott's boyfriend dying. Top class, crisp and beautiful book. Anyone who discounts it for some PC bullshit is crazy.
Just reading the last few posts, seems like I'm going to be picking Amethyst up. Picked up a few #0 issues today (Batwoman, Animal Man, Swamp Thing, Action Comics, and Wonder Woman). Also picked up Spider-Men.
Anyone know if the New 52 Catwoman and Birds of Prey are any good?
Anyone know if the New 52 Catwoman and Birds of Prey are any good?
I think you're reading a bit too much into my posts. So, let's clear up some stuff : all I'm saying is I don't think attempted rape has any place in a title called Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld. It's being pointlessly edgy for the sake of it. It's a tired plot point used to raise dramatic tenstion, and it's super cheap. It ruins a quite nice if a bit unsurprising issue, and that's where the "turd in the punchbowl" bit came from.
Sure, it's not another Identity Crisis-style character assassination ruining pretty much every comic past present and future involving Doctor Light, but it's still a super terrible thing to do, especially when you're trying to sell books to a female audience.
slightconfuse
Banned
ii came off too strong, i thoguht it was a great way to get amathsyt to become a hero. we can agree to disagree.
Also X-factor was great this week as well. the ending came out of knowherre
Also X-factor was great this week as well. the ending came out of knowherre
The Take Out Bandit
Member
for TTOB, who's love of Darrow is only eclisped by his hatred of Deadpool
Geof Darrow got paid.
Geof Darrow got paid.
Geof Darrow got that Hollywood money.
Geof Darrow got paid.
I want to put Deadpool, Gambshit, Shoehorn, and Vagirine on a team - then have Red Hulk beat them all up all day for free. Best comic ever?
NAY!
GREATEST COMIC EVER!
And the finally confirmed Loeb and Macguiness Nova.
He looks like a fucking kid.
At least they didn't make him Gunslim. Sorry, easy jab at Mehvel trying to make Nova into a Green Lantern Corps style book.
Does that dude punching Nova remind anybody else of Dan doing a shoryuken? :X McGuinness need ta lay off dat Capcpom joose!
Either way, hopefully it's as crazy fun as the first 25 issues of Hulk were.
Big day!
I forgot about HYPE HYPE HYPE Battle Beasts #3! Shop got shorted on Atomic Robo She Devils, so next week on that.
Archie's New Crusaders superhero team book came out last week. I snagged the last copy of that.
I was tempted to grab that World of Warcraft pandas comic by Cheeks, but dust jacket? How about fuck your dust jacket face?~! STOP DOING THIS PUBLISHERS! >:|
This storyline is really a vote of no-confidence across the board, huh?
It'd be fine if they'd just keep it with Jean. Stuff like Dark Phoenix Wolverine and Emma and the Cuckoos and Kid Omega all getting it is babies, but if Jean has it and it isn't a constant spot-light grab then it's fine, I think.
Didn't get too much today. Only read Amethyst. The 0 issue itself was kinda boring but I have no doubt this series is gonna be amazing. Is this going to be another DCU Presents style comic with a rotating main character/team? Gotta admit, I'd probably read whatever junk they put under the Sword and Sorcery banner.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I need to stop staying up so damn late!
Read pile is sorted:
Manhattan Projects #6
Peter Panzerfaust #6
The Shadow #5
Fatima the Blood Spinners #4
New Crusaders #1
Hypernaturals #3
Godzilla Half Century War #2
Battle Beasts #3
I'm starting to sweat that project too. Rush, rush, rush to get the work done and now I haven't heard shit from anybody at the publisher. >:O
I'm calling tomorrow.
I'm just worried:
1. If the stuff is usable.
2. If I'm still on the hook for the second project.
Need to go get some more bristol board pads tomorrow anyhow. Although I may want to start doing some of this digital to save time. As Wally Wood said, "Don't draw it if you can swipe it, don't swipe it if you can trace it, don't trace it if you can Xerox and paste it."
Speaking of the master, Fantagraphics is publishing a new Wood collection of EC stories! <3 <3 <3
Okay, bed.
Read pile is sorted:
Manhattan Projects #6
Peter Panzerfaust #6
The Shadow #5
Fatima the Blood Spinners #4
New Crusaders #1
Hypernaturals #3
Godzilla Half Century War #2
Battle Beasts #3
I'm starting to sweat that project too. Rush, rush, rush to get the work done and now I haven't heard shit from anybody at the publisher. >:O
I'm calling tomorrow.
I'm just worried:
1. If the stuff is usable.
2. If I'm still on the hook for the second project.
Need to go get some more bristol board pads tomorrow anyhow. Although I may want to start doing some of this digital to save time. As Wally Wood said, "Don't draw it if you can swipe it, don't swipe it if you can trace it, don't trace it if you can Xerox and paste it."
Speaking of the master, Fantagraphics is publishing a new Wood collection of EC stories! <3 <3 <3
Okay, bed.
Spike Spiegel
Member
Greg Rucka discusses leaving DC and Marvel in the latest issue of CLiNT Magazine (Bleeding Cool)
Confirms he's done with both of them for now, and spares neither company in his unflinching critique.
Confirms he's done with both of them for now, and spares neither company in his unflinching critique.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Man the Season One graphic novels are TINY. The free issue of the ongoing series is almost as big as the story.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
HE HATIN'!
GUYS!
GUYS!
EVERYTHING IS FINE!
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG!
BITE THE PILLOW AND MAKE PUNISHER SELL FOR US!
"I worked 12 hours a day, seven days a week for years. Being a comic book artist is like sentencing yourself to life imprisonment at hard labor in solitary confinement. I dont think Id do it again." - Wally Wood
Feels bad man.
Father_Brain
Banned
I have a pretty good sense that what he's talking about is much worse at DC than Marvel, though that's faint praise.
Feels bad man, feels bad. They are who we thought they were, unlike Tebow who is a great quarterback.
I like to go on believing trade sales matter...but DC hates trades anyways.
you DO have to be happy about it! BE HAPPY!
The big 2 are going to have to change or they'll continue to lose quality creators. The opportunity to make a decent buck with creator-owned comics is becoming more viable.
Not sure what they can do when they handcuff writers to continuity and heavy editorial, but the old school sweatshop business model won't keep employees happy.
Or maybe they really don't care as long as they keep mass producing the fast food.
Not sure what they can do when they handcuff writers to continuity and heavy editorial, but the old school sweatshop business model won't keep employees happy.
Or maybe they really don't care as long as they keep mass producing the fast food.
Help me out here...
I just read "I Kill Giants" for the GAF Comic book club and I loved it. I'd love to get back into reading comics again but I have no clue where to start. Ideally I'd like to stay away from mainstream stuff like Batman, Superman, Spiderman Xmen, etc... Can someone suggest some titles I may like. Superhero comics are OK, I just want to avoid the more popular stuff.
To give you an idea of what I liked and disliked when I collected comics a long time ago he's a list of titles with comments.
X-Men - Dislike.
Batman - used to love Batman but the comics may be a bit too popular these days
Green Hornet - Loved this character
Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children (DC/Vertigo) - Loved it
Blue Beetle - Loved the "classic" BB
Watchmen - Loved it
Sandman Mystery Theater - Great comic
Doc Savage - Love the character.
I just read "I Kill Giants" for the GAF Comic book club and I loved it. I'd love to get back into reading comics again but I have no clue where to start. Ideally I'd like to stay away from mainstream stuff like Batman, Superman, Spiderman Xmen, etc... Can someone suggest some titles I may like. Superhero comics are OK, I just want to avoid the more popular stuff.
To give you an idea of what I liked and disliked when I collected comics a long time ago he's a list of titles with comments.
X-Men - Dislike.
Batman - used to love Batman but the comics may be a bit too popular these days
Green Hornet - Loved this character
Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children (DC/Vertigo) - Loved it
Blue Beetle - Loved the "classic" BB
Watchmen - Loved it
Sandman Mystery Theater - Great comic
Doc Savage - Love the character.
Batman is very, very good right now. Not wanting to read it cause its popular is a very hipster way of looking at things. No offense, I think you should try it out cause its good. Start with Black Mirror as sillymonkey321 said above. Then get the next trade.
slightconfuse
Banned
Black mirror is so good
Point made.
I'll pick up Black Mirror ASAP.
It's not that I'm avoiding it because it's "popular" but because I have no clue where to start since it's been almost 20 years since I read Batman.
Where should I go after Black Mirror?
For Batman, you could go right to the new 52 Snyder Batman series. The first trade is out now. The other alternative route would have been going back to Grant Morrison's run on the book which is enjoyable but bizarre and slightly hard to follow at times in the beginning. That would entail a lot of reading since it's a large saga and that would finalize with Batman Incorporated.
On a tangent note, check out Umbrella Academy and see if it looks interesting to yourself
It's a weird superhero-ish story that is highly enjoyable. There are two volumes now, Apocalypse Suite and Dallas, both are great.
Supermanisdead
Member
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo
Sorry.
I also REALLY like the noir style of Sandman Mystery Theater. Any suggestions along those lines?
We still have a number of good books from both of the big 2, but I have been noticing the same sort of things in the past few years. Both companies seem to care more about crossovers and gimmicky events they can pass off as news to USA Today than just telling good stories.
It's unreasonable to expect exclusive access to a licensed character in a shared universe, and Punisher being one of Marvel's lower selling books surely didn't give Rucka much bargaining power, but I wish that Marvel would let more books do their own thing. The last 5 years of Avengers family of books have consisted of tie-in story arc after tie-in story arc to the point that none of the books really have a chance to build up momentum (The X-books too to a lesser extent).
Having uninterrupted runs like Hickman's Fantastic Four stuff or Uncanny X-Force is starting to become a rarity. Even smaller books like Daredevil are saddled with cross-overs. I started reading Waid's run a few weeks back and was interrupted by not one but two crossover stories in 12 issues. I don't read Amazing Spider-man, so I was left with the decision of buying an issue I didn't really want, or skipping over it and having the story suffer as a result. If you are already reading all of the involved titles, I am sure these crossovers are great, but they can be a pain in the ass for the rest of us.
I don't think it is a coincidence that most of the lauded comic runs were self contained things. Years after the fact, tie-in issues are confusing and disjointed. I wasn't much of a DC reader before Infinite Crisis, so whenever I encounter a tie-in issue to something like Our Worlds at War or Zero Hour while reading an older run, I have no clue what is going on. I wish that the big 2 would just trust more of their writers and artists to tell their own stories and not mandate all of these line-wide status quos.
Just continue on with Snyder's current run on Batman.
If you are not adverse to books without superheroes, read 100 Bullets and Scalped. Both are great titles, and make for a good change of pace.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
...On a tangent note, check out Umbrella Academy and see if it looks interesting to yourself
It's a weird superhero-ish story that is highly enjoyable. There are two volumes now, Apocalypse Suite and Dallas, both are great.
Yes! I love Ba--dude's one of my top artists (along with his brother, Fabio Moon). And who knew that Gerard Way could write the fuck out of a comic? It's an impressive book, to say the least.
It's a fine line to walk, especially when tie-ins and crossovers sell so well. I can't blame a company for wanting to make money. If creative happiness is a problem, that's really a lot to do with the fanbase. They're the ones buying the crossovers and mediocre books. I shake my head when I see AvX selling so well, but Marvel is just giving the fans what they want. The crossovers top the sales charts even while there are better books within the same company.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
And only just barely.
I'd like to know this as well. Also, how are the New 52 Birds of Prey and Catwoman?
It's Hickman going absolutely crazy with WW2-era super-science. It's fun as heck.
All I needed to know! Thanks
Also Halloween costume idea:
I love Superman in jeans and boots, way more badass.
Freaking awesome.
All I needed to know! Thanks
Also Halloween costume idea:
I love Superman in jeans and boots, way more badass.
I am reading Supergods right now and this screams Morrisson's theory about superman being the socialist empowerment of the working class.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
But didn't Waid write all three issues of that "crossover"? Why would you not follow him to those other issues? (I think he only co-wrote Punisher but that was with Greg Rucka, so...?)
I don't really understand being into a creator's work until he writes a story that crosses over with something else, all of a sudden that's not the book you signed on for? It's still Waid's book.
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