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[Volimar]

As someone in one of the states feeling the Republicans' efforts to make it harder for some people to vote, I endorse this message, though I usually find Sarah Silverman hit or miss.

Sarah Silverman | Election 2012 - Voter Fraud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ypRW5qoraTw

 

[LaserBuddha]

Interestingly enough, my father experienced "democrats" trying to keep people from voting in 2008.

No I can't help the fact that he was actually going to vote Republican, but they determined that by profiling anyway.

 

[Kettch]

I don't know. I think my dislike for Silverman somehow overcomes my dislike for voter ID laws.

 

[Goldrusher]

Closed the tab when she said she's Jewish.

Why does she always do that?
In every bit, show, appearance, speech, etc. she has to remind us.

 

[Phaethon0017]

My grandmother had to get a picture ID (not a drivers license) for something here in Florida. She just had to go down to the DMV (I believe) and got it taken care of. Yeah, it's an inconvenience but I don't see how this should stop anyone from voting.

 

[Seth C]

I appreciated that, and it's incredibly frustrating what's going on. Also, I want to make sweet love to Sarah Silverman while she talks dirty to me.

 

[Trojita]

My grandmother had to get a picture ID (not a drivers license) for something here in Florida. She just had to go down to the DMV (I believe) and got it taken care of. Yeah, it's an inconvenience but I don't see how this should stop anyone from voting.

You're assuming everyone has the time and means to get to a DMV.

 

[SteveWinwood]

My grandmother had to get a picture ID (not a drivers license) for something here in Florida. She just had to go down to the DMV (I believe) and got it taken care of. Yeah, it's an inconvenience but I don't see how this should stop anyone from voting.

Then you don't see very well.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

meh not her best work
I do like her standup though

 

[Futureman]

You're assuming everyone has the time and means to get to a DMV.

In Pittsburgh I saw services that were offering free rides. The time factor doesn't make sense to me. If you are that busy I would think you already have a photo ID.

Guy above, how did the Dens suppress your dad in '08?

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Wait a minute, Americans don't have regular ID cards?

 

[Takamura-San]

My grandmother had to get a picture ID (not a drivers license) for something here in Florida. She just had to go down to the DMV (I believe) and got it taken care of. Yeah, it's an inconvenience but I don't see how this should stop anyone from voting.

It is an unnecessary step to prevent something that is not an issue at ALL.

This is just a means to make it more difficult for those that can vote against republicans.

Wether some can do it is not a question, it doesn't improve the voting process.

 

[Toppot]

Funny and informative. She gets my vote!

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Wait a minute, Americans don't have regular ID cards?

there is no required ID card for being a citizen of the United States. The closest thing is a driver's license or a social security card
you can get a non driving ID card from the DMV though

 

[Phaethon0017]

You're assuming everyone has the time and means to get to a DMV.

I have mixed feelings on the issue personally.

Some the churches here organize trips to DMVs once a month for the elderly. I know this means there may be two trips necessary, one prior to voting and one on election day.

My real complaint is that there were a ridiculous low number of reported voting fraud cases last election. But for years we've heard of both parties getting the names of convicted felons, the dead or even random people and counting their votes.

I think we need more checks and balances in place, but it's hard when the people getting voted in are more than likely the ones responsible.

 

[Dabanton]

Quite funny.

Love some of the butthurt comments.

such an annoying jew.. she couldn't play black irish in her dreams, and definitely not italian. she's a liberal hobbit.

kerstalis in reply to opappa 10 minutes ago

 

[WorriedCitizen]

there is no required ID card for being a citizen of the United States. The closest thing is a driver's license or a social security card
you can get a non driving ID card from the DMV though

So in the past you could just vote without proof of your identity? That sounds pretty shady.

If someone has no ID how does he identify oneself when ge gets stopped by the police for some offence? Over here it's so if you don't have an ID or a friend nearby who can vouch for your identity they will put you in jail until they know your identity.

And how do you open a bank account, rent an appartment, buy a house or whatever without ID? Sound completely illogical to me that citizens don't need to have an ID.

 

[Vyroxis]

Wait a minute, Americans don't have regular ID cards?

There are no laws requiring you to have one ever unless you are driving. If you don't have an ID, however, good luck on life. Can't get a job, a place to live, can't get a bank account or cash checks, in most states you can't even get assistance without SOMETHING to prove you are who you say you are.

So ya, they aren't legally required. But you have to have one unless you enjoy soup kitchens and sleeping under a bridge.

 

[trineo_feo]

Wait a minute, Americans don't have regular ID cards?

That's super weird for me too. In my country you are required to have an official ID card and you have to use ir for fucking everything.

 

[SteveWinwood]

There are no laws requiring you to have one ever unless you are driving. If you don't have an ID, however, good luck on life. Can't get a job, a place to live, can't get a bank account or cash checks, in most states you can't even get assistance without SOMETHING to prove you are who you say you are.

So ya, they aren't legally required. But you have to have one unless you enjoy soup kitchens and sleeping under a bridge.

Literally not one of those is true.

You just think they're true because they ask for it and you give it to them and assume there aren't alternatives.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

So in the past you could just vote without proof of your identity? That sounds pretty shady.

not really. they have a list of everyone that is allowed to vote and you just had to tell them your address or show a voter ID card. Despite all the doomsaying, voter fraud was and is a non issue.

If someone has no ID how does he identify oneself when ge gets stopped by the police for some offence? Over here it's so if you don't have an ID or a friend nearby who can vouch for your identity they will put you in jail until they know your identity.

Well most people have driver's licenses in the US so it works like your ID. I think the police can hold you until they ascertain your identity here as well.

And how do you open a bank account, rent an appartment, buy a house or whatever without ID? Sound completely illogical to me that citizens don't need to have an ID.

You have to have a social security number and some form of ID to get those things. Again, that usually means a driver's license. The US is a car driving nation, its hard to live in most of the country without driving a car so most people have drivers licenses.

 

[sonicfan]

So in the past you could just vote without proof of your identity? That sounds pretty shady.

If someone has no ID how does he identify oneself when ge gets stopped by the police for some offence? Over here it's so if you don't have an ID or a friend nearby who can vouch for your identity they will put you in jail until they know your identity.

And how do you open a bank account, rent an appartment, buy a house or whatever without ID? Sound completely illogical to me that citizens don't need to have an ID.

You sound like a racist....

 

[WorriedCitizen]

You sound like a racist....

huh?

 

[scorcho]

Here's some nice Voter ID-law (voter disenfranchisement) humor - http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/107561/47-percent-voter-id-link-proved

if only the rest of the GOP was this transparent about what this legislation is actually about.

 

[Volimar]

You sound like a racist....

Shady -> Shadow -> Darkness ->Anger -> Hate -> Suffering -> Black people


Yep, I see it.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Do poor people have an option to get an ID card for free?

 

[Futureman]

I don't believe any state charges but I may be wrong. I would think at most it would be $5.

I just got a new license in PA and if you arent changing your address it's free.

 

[Eidan]

Do poor people have an option to get an ID card for free?

http://www.costoffreedom.info/

This site outlines the requirements.

The real kicker with these laws is that Republicans are banking on the uninformed to go to the polls as they normally do, but be rejected when they don't have the proper forms of identification.

 

[Magilla]

I'm moving from a state without a voter ID law to a state that has one. It is kind of unsettling. I'm leaving my liberal bastion!

 

[Rocket Scientist]

The real kicker with these laws is that Republicans are banking on the uninformed to go to the polls as they normally do, but be rejected when they don't have the proper forms of identification.

Have there been polls in these states to find out how many likely voters are not aware of the rules? This is one of the reason why you shouldn´t be allowed to implement this in an election year. It should be done either right after mid-term or presidential elections so that there is a maximum amount of time for people to get educated.

 

[gutter_trash]

the US needs an independent body that takes cares of voter registration and rules for the entire nation.

This whole idea that this state here can make up its own rules affecting a federal election compared to different rules in another is preposterous.

PLUS, why do voters register according to a political party affiliation? It is unheard of in other countries.

Protip, register as an independent

Do poor people have an option to get an ID card for free?

I tihnk they should if it is mandatory that everyone must present a photo id. In some provinces in Canada, the medicare card has a photo id

 

[shintoki]

So you can use NRA cards, but not Student ID or Veteran Cards?

 

[speedline]

Did she mention Acorn? That is the very definition of voter fraud.

 

[Diprosalic]

Quite funny.

Love some of the butthurt comments.

even better:

Blacks and poor vote for handouts.
Elderly are too senile.
Students only care about weed and whatever the popular culture tells them to do.
If you don't care enough to get properly registered to vote, you shouldn't be voting. Democracy should be for the educated and informed. It's not like stupid people know what's in their best interest anyways. It's better that they don't vote, and leave the voting to those with an IQ higher than a banana.

 

[sonicfan]

huh?

Voter ID laws are only to suppress minority voting in the US, there is absolutely no evidence in the US that democrats, their supporters, and their constituents have ever committed vote fraud in this country....

 

[Futureman]

PLUS, why do voters register according to a political party affiliation? It is unheard of in other countries.

so you can select your candidate to run for Pres. Only registered Republicans for example were able to vote in the primaries to choose who would run against BAMA.

 

[theignoramus]

Closed the tab when she said she's Jewish.

Why does she always do that?
In every bit, show, appearance, speech, etc. she has to remind us.

lol, butthurt much? who cares, she's a comedian

 

[BertramCooper]

Closed the tab when she said she's Jewish.

Why does she always do that?
In every bit, show, appearance, speech, etc. she has to remind us.

Get a life, Jews.

 

[genjiZERO]

the US needs an independent body that takes cares of voter registration and rules for the entire nation.

This whole idea that this state here can make up its own rules affecting a federal election compared to different rules in another is preposterous.

PLUS, why do voters register according to a political party affiliation? It is unheard of in other countries.

Protip, register as an independent

I tihnk they should if it is mandatory that everyone must present a photo id. In some provinces in Canada, the medicare card has a photo id

Voting is handled by each state. It is a constitutional right of the states to run elections within those states. It might be preposterous nonetheless.

You don't have to register with a party in every state, and that only matters for voting in primaries. I personally think this is wrong, but, again, state's rights issue.

Protip, register as the opposite party you actually tend to vote for - that way you can vote in their primaries.


As others have said, voter fraud is a non issue. These laws are simply a way to suppress voters who are likely to vote Democrat. Silverman is right on about it.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Voter ID laws are only to suppress minority voting in the US, there is absolutely no evidence in the US that democrats, their supporters, and their constituents have ever committed vote fraud in this country....

Still was uncalled for to imply that i'm a racist. I'm not a US citizen. In my country ID cards are mandatory for everyone and i don't see it causing any discrimination against poor people or minorities so excuse me when i'm a little curious about the strange US system. But of course when poor people and minorities don't have easy and cheap (or even free) access to ID cards then there is without a doubt an element of discrimination in this voter law.

 

[Dude Abides]

Interestingly enough, my father experienced "democrats" trying to keep people from voting in 2008.

No I can't help the fact that he was actually going to vote Republican, but they determined that by profiling anyway.

Have any details? I did poll-watching for the Obama campaign in 2008 and we were repeatedly and explicitly told not to challenge anyone.

 

[genjiZERO]

Still was uncalled for to imply that i'm a racist. I'm not a US citizen. In my country ID cards are mandatory for everyone and i don't see it causing any discrimination against poor people or minorities so excuse me when i'm a little curious about the strange US system. But of course when poor people and minorities don't have easy and cheap (or even free) access to ID cards then there is without a doubt an element of discrimination in this voter law.

You weren't being racist. He's either trying to be funny or is an idiot.

 

[gutter_trash]

states should issue FOR FREE voter photo IDs .

Most European countries have Citizen ID cards with photo. time to adopt such a thing possibly for such situations

Still was uncalled for to imply that i'm a racist. I'm not a US citizen. In my country ID cards are mandatory for everyone and i don't see it causing any discrimination against poor people or minorities so excuse me when i'm a little curious about the strange US system. But of course when poor people and minorities don't have easy and cheap (or even free) access to ID cards then there is without a doubt an element of discrimination in this voter law.

your country probably issues them at a cheap price or free to citizens, what is your country?

 

[massoluk]

Came from country with National ID Card, so the whole thing wasn't really alien to me.

If these laws weren't passed so closed to the elections and that there are big (by that a mean humongous) campaign to to inform all the voters, it wouldn't really irk me that much. As is, it's such an obvious attempt to screw selected groups of people.

 

[sonicfan]

You weren't being racist. He's either trying to be funny or is an idiot.

Trying to be a bit sarcastic, as that is the charge people make when they suggest that that a valid ID should be required to vote in the US.... But I guess it didn't carry over well across international borders, since to WorriedCitizen, it makes perfect sense to require ID, as they do in many parts of the world without any problems.... The system we have designed here with motor voter/same day registration/no ID/early voting/absentee voting abuse/etc. makes it far to easy to commit fraud. I'm all with you WorriedCitizen.

I say, make most voting take place on weekends or make them holidays, require photo ID to register and vote, make the ID free, and you must register at least 45 days before voting. I want it easy to actually vote on election day, but make sure you are who you say you are and you live where you say you live when you do vote.

Vote fraud is real, it takes place on both sides, and it needs to stop.

 

[akira28]

Interestingly enough, my father experienced "democrats" trying to keep people from voting in 2008.

No I can't help the fact that he was actually going to vote Republican, but they determined that by profiling anyway.

what happened exactly? I had some people ask me if I had ID, but that was about it.

Shady -> Shadow -> Darkness ->Anger -> Hate -> Suffering -> Black people


Yep, I see it.

You know it in your heart to be true.

 

[AAequal]

your country probably issues them at a cheap price or free to citizens, what is your country?

I live in Finland and photo id is must here if you want to vote. I think cheapest forms of photo id are around 50€ so it's far from cheap.

 

[Alucrid]

It's funny that their method of stopping voter fraud is voter fraud. Not to mention it does nothing in regards to fraud at the stage when votes are being counted nor to stop fraud that occurs before the election begins.

 

[Dorrin]

It is an unnecessary step to prevent something that is not an issue at ALL.

This is just a means to make it more difficult for those that can vote against republicans.

Wether some can do it is not a question, it doesn't improve the voting process.

This. It is all about voter supression. Were is the outrage about closed black box electronic voting?

 

[FyreWulff]

Requiring ID to vote is a Jim Crow law, which is why the current GOP fucking loves the idea of implementing a modern version of it.

Vote fraud is real, it takes place on both sides, and it needs to stop.

Please explain to the class where voter fraud has been a) an actual notable amount of votes and b) went undetected and made an election turn out the opposite of the way the public actually voted. Yes, let's throw out 20% of the votes to get rid of those 1% or less of fraudulent votes. Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem.

states should issue FOR FREE voter photo IDs .

They'd just raise the rates of the supporting documents required to get the free photo ID.

To get an ID in Nebraska, it costs 30$ for the State ID (DL is the same price). 25$ + 5$ regisration fee. Lasts 5 years. Requires you to prove your citizenship, so 8$ for a birth certificate. You must prove your address with two different forms of official address, so you need to be paying either both utilities in your own name (good luck if you're poor) or have some sort of billing that they'll accept. Now remember that the DMV is only open the same hours you're at work, so you have to take a day off work to even get to it.

Paying for an ID for a single family member is the amount of money some voters spend on food for an ENTIRE WEEK, let alone multiple people. Saying it's fine if the IDs themselves are free is facetious when we all know the costs are just shifted elswhere. The people that want voter ID know exactly what results will ensue, which is why they want them.