Is GAF too strict?

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Pandaman said:
Already preparing for that Doctor McButt name, eh?

You gonna say there can be only one medical practioner on gaf?
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Based on the creepshots thread, I will say that yes, GAF is too strict.

This is where Stump would advise that I move on to another forum. I probably should, but I do know that lots of long-standing posters on this forum agree with me. I do think that community moderators should at least attempt to maintain some of their community's original spirit. Yes, moderating a forum of 80,000 is different than moderating a forum of 800, but I honestly think that a more snarky, old-school GAF could work even with the current population.

This place will never be SomethingAwful or 2001-era TeamXbox, but it used to be more fun, and not all that long ago.
 
Puddles said:
Based on the creepshots thread, I will say that yes, GAF is too strict.

This is where Stump would advise that I move on to another forum. I probably should, but I do know that lots of long-standing posters on this forum agree with me. I do think that community moderators should at least attempt to maintain some of their community's original spirit. Yes, moderating a forum of 80,000 is different than moderating a forum of 800, but I honestly think that a more snarky, old-school GAF could work even with the current population.

This place will never be SomethingAwful or 2001-era TeamXbox, but it used to be more fun, and not all that long ago.
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Come on son
 
In 2008, half of those bans wouldn't have been bans, and Blackace himself might very well have posted a funny gif in that thread that would get a person banned now.
 
Isn't something awful very similar to GAF? Semi-closed community (pay instead of wait), strict moderation and standards, along with great user created content and community?
 
Look, all I'm saying, ALL I'm saying, is that until (relatively) recently, a post like Polyh3dron's "Well if people keep saying to take a picture because it'll last longer" probably wouldn't have been a ban.

Obviously the creepy "hell yeah, post more butt pics that I can fap to!" posts would have still resulted in bans, but a lot of posts that seemed pretty harmless had the same result.

There's probably no point in arguing this point, so this will probably be my last post on the matter.
 
Puddles said:
In 2008, half of those bans wouldn't have been bans, and Blackace himself might very well have posted a funny gif in that thread that would get a person banned now.
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I doubt that

I would have tagged everyone accordingly

But the board is a different beast now

We have a fairly large women population now

And I would like to think because how we moderate has something to with

Adapt or die
 
I'm not saying that none of those posts should have resulted in bans.

It's possible to be more female/minority group/Nintendo fan friendly without taking it too far in one direction. And, in my opinion, the board has gone too far in that direction. That's all I'm saying. I presume it's okay to express that opinion?
 
Fiction said:
As I've said before, it's nice to not have to actively hide the fact that I am female in order to have a discussion here.

Like we kinda have to do almost anywhere else that's gaming related in order to be taken seriously.
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If more women were gamers, games would be far less derivative and far more creative. :(
 
Arksy said:
Isn't something awful very similar to GAF? Semi-closed community (pay instead of wait), strict moderation and standards, along with great user created content and community?
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That's odd, I'm getting a weird Deja Vu from this post. Do you say the same thing in a lot of threads?
 
Puddles said:
I'm not saying that none of those posts should have resulted in bans.

It's possible to be more female/minority group/Nintendo fan friendly without taking it too far in one direction. And, in my opinion, the board has gone too far in that direction. That's all I'm saying. I presume it's okay to express that opinion?
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It's ok to be incorrect
 
jaxword said:
That's odd, I'm getting a weird Deja Vu from this post. Do you say the same thing in a lot of threads?
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I think I may have said it once before....Don't quote me I am quite tired and fairly nauseous from these anti-biotics.

Fiction said:
I think last I read, we make up 47% of gamers? But there's really no way of telling if those numbers include stuff like FarmVille.
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That's a pretty good number. The greater the diversity of gamers, the greater the diversity of games we'll get. There's some pretty creative stuff that goes on in the indie/mobile scene. Hard to tell if they're related. There should be more female game developers. I know it's a lot better then it used to be, but no where near good enough.
 
Puddles said:
Look, all I'm saying, ALL I'm saying, is that until (relatively) recently, a post like Polyh3dron's "Well if people keep saying to take a picture because it'll last longer" probably wouldn't have been a ban.

Obviously the creepy "hell yeah, post more butt pics that I can fap to!" posts would have still resulted in bans, but a lot of posts that seemed pretty harmless had the same result.

There's probably no point in arguing this point, so this will probably be my last post on the matter.
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You might actually be right about some of those posts, though on the other hand what Stumples mentioned about how that particular ban was probably due to how bad the topic was overall is probably accurate. There are occasionally posts which in isolation might get passed over, but might get moderated if they contributed to turning a topic to shit, though even then it would still be - as you can see - a slap on the wrist.
 
Fiction said:
Ick, I know that feel. I hope you are better soon.
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Much appreciated!

All in all it's good that NeoGAF exists. It's unique in what it offers and if people want a different type of community there are plenty of different communities out there. I'm glad to be here. And not reddit. *shudder*.
 
Puddles said:
Based on the creepshots thread, I will say that yes, GAF is too strict.

This is where Stump would advise that I move on to another forum. I probably should, but I do know that lots of long-standing posters on this forum agree with me. I do think that community moderators should at least attempt to maintain some of their community's original spirit. Yes, moderating a forum of 80,000 is different than moderating a forum of 800, but I honestly think that a more snarky, old-school GAF could work even with the current population.

This place will never be SomethingAwful or 2001-era TeamXbox, but it used to be more fun, and not all that long ago.
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Why do you feel you need to be "monogamous" so to say with regards to forums? Personally I post on an invite only cooking forum, a lifestyle board, anime/manga/comic forum, tech forum and the sci fi forums. You next issue will likely be that you have a group of people here that you like right? Why not encourage them to forum surf with you? You do not need to be on GAF and GAF only, I actually think Stump's solution is partially spot on you with the caveat that don't leave here, just become more selective in the discussions you play part in and discuss anything else you feel would turn sour on GAF on one of your other forums.
 
I don't agree with Puddles about the percieved changes of the forum but his post made me think of something I've been thinking of from time to time. I do think that mods/admins sometimes gets too banhappy when they come across a thread they need to clean out, some posters seems to get caught even though they didn't make any offensive posts.
 
I agree with Puddles. I couple of people just got banned for making really tame puns about an over-weight anchorwoman. The jokes they made didn't seem mean spirited at all, I mean, they were puns. No way they would have been banned for that two or three, or even one year ago.
 
Trent Strong said:
I agree with Puddles. I couple of people just got banned for making really tame puns about an over-weight anchorwoman. The jokes they made didn't seem mean spirited at all, I mean, they were puns. No way they would have been banned for that two or three, or even one year ago.
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Bad puns have resulted in bans from time to time for years.
 
zon said:
I don't agree with Puddles about the percieved changes of the forum but his post made me think of something I've been thinking of from time to time. I do think that mods/admins sometimes gets too banhappy when they come across a thread they need to clean out, some posters seems to get caught even though they didn't make any offensive posts.
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As long as the punishment time stays reasonable, I don't care how banhappy they can get in a clusterfuck thread. Most of the more insignificant offenses only got banned for 24 hours, and i'm sure there are others who got banned for just a few days, a week, etc as opposed to months. Someone I think who failed at this was Dragona, for example (imo). Banned a lot, and sometimes justifiably, but the people who ended up getting in the way (i.e. just being in the same thread) oftentimes got a similar punishment. That's the issue, being banhappy and not differentiating the suspension time between those guilty and those caught in the middle.
 
Trent Strong said:
Maybe you're right, but I've seen a lot of really tasteless and offensive puns in threads about horrible news stories that never resulted in a ban.
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There should be some kind of ban policy with puns. I don't mind the first pun even if it's offensive but I do have a problem when next 20 posts are puns trying to one better the best pun in thread. Another annoying thing about puns is when the back patting starts. There have been threads where most posts are reaction gifs for the pun or /thread messages. So annoying.

edit. And I rarely see people getting banned because of puns. I don't mind the tastless pun but soons as the thread is no longer about what OP posted but instead it's about the pun, then I care.
 
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