Mitt Romney: We Dont Have People Who Die Because They Dont Have Insurance'
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RustyNails
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Right now he is leading Obama.
BrokenEchelon
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Voters who would vote for him:
1. Obama is black. I hate black people, so I want Romney.
2. Obama is a muslim. I hate muslims, so I want Romney.
3. I hate homosexuals. I want Romney.
4. I love my guns. I want Romney.
5. I hate godless liberals. I want the continued freedom to believe in my woman hating, slavery promoting God.
etc. etc. ad nauseum.
LegendofJoe
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If we lived in a just society any leader that said something this stupid would be immediately disqualified from running for office. Either that or have his insurance stipped and be infected with bone cancer. Go to HELL you rich, sociopathic asshole because you surely belong there.
Angelus Errare
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Sounds about right.
As long as those 20 years of Bush were Cheney and Rove free then sure. Bush never came off as a bad guy or uncaring, just incompetent and he let the real evil guys in his group run things.
ClassyPenguin
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Pai Pai Master
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You forgot rich people. Rich people fucking love other rich people. Also, people who think they will be rich one day regardless of their own situation and needs because of the "American Dream."
I also find it hilarious that death is the qualifier here. As long as they don't die it's fine, the millions of people who are suffering every day with their problems and aren't insured, they don't matter. They could live better lives, but who gives a fuck?
Horseticuffs
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As an American with health insurance, let me just say that any country that doesn't provide for it's citizens and COULD if it so chose, disgusts me to my very core.
Especially when that country spends more on it's military then the next 26 countries combined (I believe that's the proper figure, IIRC).
Just disgusting. And this damned "rugged individualism" we are all so in love with is the cause of it all.
In America, every 4 years you can presume the worst is going to happen. Sometimes you get a nice surprise and are wrong, though.
I've no doubt he'll get elected, because this country gets the leadership it asks for.
Especially when that country spends more on it's military then the next 26 countries combined (I believe that's the proper figure, IIRC).
Just disgusting. And this damned "rugged individualism" we are all so in love with is the cause of it all.
In America, every 4 years you can presume the worst is going to happen. Sometimes you get a nice surprise and are wrong, though.
I've no doubt he'll get elected, because this country gets the leadership it asks for.
Sounds like Canada
RedNalgene
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It's really not surprising anymore. If you read up on some of the stuff he did at Bain he is clearly a very immoral person and will just tell you what you want to hear, even if it's BS. This is what is happening now. He's fleecing everyone. And I think the average American isn't going to go out and determine whether or not he's telling the truth. They assume he's telling the truth and just implicitly trust him. It's incredibly scary.
ThatCrazyGuy
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This guy doesn't get it . He thinks cancer treatments are done in the er? Jesus christ. Why doesn't he outline his whole healthcare plan instead of shtting on obamacare, a plan that has helped many fellow Americans in need. Disgusting.
Angelus Errare
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Romneycare is almost exactly the same as Obamacare. This is the funny part of it all.
Only downside to democracy. Stupid people have as much power as intelligent people.
BrokenEchelon
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It's so pathetically obviously that he will do anything, anything to get what he wants, and he wants the power of the President so fucking badly it's sad.
He either has a massive inferiority complex or is terrified of being forgotten and wants to be immortalized by having his name recorded in the annals of this country.
There isn't a fucking bone in that man that wants to take up the Office for any other reason than self gain.
Or, you know, the many voters who prefer Romney for economic policy reasons. I don't think that you actually think that everyone who votes Republican thinks that way.
And no, I don't support Romney myself. I happen to strongly disagree with his proposals, as limited and vague as they are.
Fixed it for you. Racism is definitely part of it, but not for the majority of Repubs. Although how many Birthers I've met does make me doubt it.
Sirpopopop
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6. People who don't understand economics or are paid shills for "libertarian" ideals (See: Mercatus Center).
BrokenEchelon
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His economic policy doesn't exist. It revolves around fixing everything by doing everything without detailing anything.
So sure, there's people out there who are voting for him because he's going to fix whatever they want fixed, which is what he's fantastic at selling: nothing.
Really?
Sirpopopop
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1. Global Warming.
2. Bombing Iran.
3. Distinct Possibility of Trade War with China.
You should be scared of this guy. Your ocean won't save you.
RedNalgene
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I think the vast majority of people who are planning on voting for Romney are voting for him because he's not Obama, not because they believe he's better than Obama. They want a change and I think if you put any of the Republican candidates in there these same people would vote for that candidate because he's not Obama.
Yup. It's how we got two terms of W. I just really wish voters would seek information before making a decision as important as this one. If Romney gets into office this country is in deep trouble.
ReBurn
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Individual states running their own programs won't ensure that everyone has access to a minimum standard of care and adequate protection for catastrophic illness. The federal government needs to provide that for everyone and our taxes need to pay for it. If the well to do want more let them buy it from private insurers.
This isn't about insurance. This is about access to care. Emergency rooms are going to do the minimum required by law then turn you out. That's not enough.
This isn't about insurance. This is about access to care. Emergency rooms are going to do the minimum required by law then turn you out. That's not enough.
Xal-Shoota
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I feel ashamed that this guy is even in my city right now. What the hell. I just. I don't even..
Isn't romney back to being neck in neck with obama in the polls now too?
Isn't romney back to being neck in neck with obama in the polls now too?
Pai Pai Master
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Snake Oil for America
Hey man, they're not dead. Isn't that enough?
LegendofJoe
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If their solution to our healthcare problems is just go the ER then yes they deserve it.
Because, like the Confederates argued, the States are better equiped to handle these issues than the feds.
Fox Mulder
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Haha...
You can go to the ER for cancer?
You can go to the ER for cancer?
Oh I agree with you. I'm just saying that it's clearly misleading to imply that 100% of people that vote Republican do so because they're afraid of a "gay muslim socialist that will take their guns" or whatever.
For what it's worth (anecdotal evidence incoming), I graduated with an economics degree recently after writing an honors thesis. I'd say that roughly half of the people in the honors thesis course were strongly conservative and it was for entirely economic reasons. Concerns about the deficit, tax structure, etc. Again, I don't agree with them, but they were basing their beliefs off of philosophical reasoning, their interpretation of the data, and so on.
This too. If someone would like to retire at 55 or 60, well, they can, but they won't be able to get medicare. In the meantime, they'll need to pay for their own insurance, and retiring early means giving up the insurance provided as a job benefit, which can be 5 figures cheaper than an individual plan.
Angelus Errare
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As people of average intelligence have been asking for the last 18 months of this campaign.
What ARE Romney's policies?
So far all I know is
1. A 153 page book with 58 policies. Too long so he can't go into details.
2. It'll just get better if he's elected.
3. Magic.
Exactly!
Having insurance encourages people to take steps toward preventative care which in the long run saves EVERYONE money.
Fucking christ.
Guys, I think Mittens has no idea how Insurance and Healthcare work.
speculawyer
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Romney is a weasel.
The subject line of this thread is a very bogus statement but that is not what he said. He said:
And yeah, we'll take you to the emergency room. But we will let people whither away with chronic conditions up until they are at death's door. We'll then let them go to the emergency room where it is too late.
The subject line of this thread is a very bogus statement but that is not what he said. He said:
And yeah, we'll take you to the emergency room. But we will let people whither away with chronic conditions up until they are at death's door. We'll then let them go to the emergency room where it is too late.
Healthcare is part of economic policy.
As I mentioned, republicans wanted to make it so that ERs would have to turn you away if you weren't carrying any ID. Have a heart attack in your living room and your wallet is in your bedroom? EMTs come in, wheel you out, bring you to the ER, whoops, no ID in your pockets, turn you away!
If Romney's party had its way we WOULD have people being turned away from hospitals while they're dying.
This is a scary thing.
I'm missing the part where I said that Romney's economic policy proposals a) made sense or b) existed in a consistent way the first place. If I'm getting pounced on this much for simply saying that some people may vote for Romney for reasons other than overt racism, even though I've explicitly stated that I strongly disagree with his platform, no wonder actual conservatives don't feel like posting much, lol.
Edit: I don't want to derail the conversation here with the fallout from what I thought was a simple tangent. Yes, the quote from the OP is ridiculous and he hasn't presented any healthcare policy alternatives that make any sense.
No he is not leading Obama.
Angelus Errare
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I wonder what Ja Rule thinks of Romney's statements.
SquiddyCracker
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Romney lives in the Lucky Duck comic
Holy shit that perfectly encapsulates the views of crazy-GOPers (and a decent part of the libertarian movement).
Perspicacity
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Because, if you were living in Mississippi would you want to be paying for all of those freeloading moochers up in New York?
Extra Sauce
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You'll get emergency treatment when that heart attack hits, but you won't get preventive treatment to avoid the heart attack. Also, you will be in financial ruin. Which will indirectly lead to an early death.
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