Mitt Romney: We Dont Have People Who Die Because They Dont Have Insurance'
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I think it should be clear from this thread that none of us have any idea why people like you behave the way they do.
la flama blanca
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English motherfucker.
Neuromancer
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I'm trying not to =(
aronnov reborn
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and i thought you libs were the smart educated ones. to stereotype every republican.. my my libgaf. looks like you're stuck in the medieval times with republicans.. MIRITE?
do people who are against same sex marriage vote republican. most likely yes.
do people who think obama is a muslim vote republican.. most likely yes
and so on
how can you generalize all republicans with having all or any of those views?
Angelus Errare
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Policies and principles yo.
teruterubozu
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It's as if NBA/NFL GAF made a new post for every trade and ESPN gaffe. I don't get why PoliGAF gets a pass. I can't wait for the fucking elections to end.
I'm not sure I understand the point. How did we get from insurance to this?
Phoenician_Viking
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Nah, i mean poor people voted fro the Republicans long time before Obama was a figure in politics. Some of them have bigoted reasons i´m sure, but some of them vote for the GOP based on ignorance on issues.
aronnov reborn
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i've learned that a long time ago. I'm no stranger to GAF's thinking or views.
ElectricBlue187
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more importantly: how can you refute it? Republican policies support all of that stuff and more
Do tell us why you, conservagaf is voting for this assclown. I'm listening. We're all listening.
Red Blaster
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Only one national convention had someone throwing nuts at a black person
Right, so you're arguing a generalization, knowing while its a generalization, its a trend of the GOP. Which you most likely agree with.
aronnov reborn
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posters asking who would vote for romney and coming up with creative ways to tell us all?
smokeandmirrors
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Well aren't you the clever one...
Perspicacity
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I think what aronnov is trying to say is that his political position should not be dismissed and he shouldn't be labelled "racist" simply for holding it.
If he were halfway sincere about this sentiment he would defend his position with actual reasons rather than whining about the unfair accusations from the other side.
If he were halfway sincere about this sentiment he would defend his position with actual reasons rather than whining about the unfair accusations from the other side.
la flama blanca
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You are seriously hurting my brain.
aronnov reborn
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could we do that with liberals or minorities on this board? why's it ok to generalize a republican or someone who would vote for romney?
sorry. i'll keep it more simple for people here. GO OBAMA!
Yes i should have to defend being generalized as a racist because i'll vote for Romney
You do realize that one of the generalizations you're fighting against is literally a plank in the Republican platform, right?
No need to keep it simple. Teach us your ways. Let us know why Romney's clearly the better choice. We're waiting to be enlightened.
Angelus Errare
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You misunderstood that, they weren't throwing nuts at the black person because they were black. They were throwing nuts because the person kept saying. "This is nuts" so people threw actual nuts saying "no, these are nuts!"
It's all a misunderstanding everyone. Republicans as of today are no longer racist homophobic people.
Change is upon them.
Mittens 2012 yo
But...but you...just..you just...wat
Sirpopopop
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Politics is too broad to be constrained into one thread. It's about foreign policy. It's about environmental policy. It's about health care policy. It's about scientific policy. It's about economic policy.
The list goes on and on.
la flama blanca
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Because 90% of the time, the generalization is correct. People generalize things so that the discussion can be carried on quicker. You still haven't responded to requests of individuals asking you to state why you would vote for Romney over Obama.
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NinjaFridge
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But why would he bother, no matter what he says some people here will still call him a racist. GAF is not very open to those who vote republican.
teruterubozu
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It sure fucking does.
NullPointer
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If you don't agree with those views why do you vote for a party that has been taken over by people with those views?
sports gaf should post a thread for every little news.
I was shocked when I saw your drug prices. My Mum needs medication for arthritis and her heart. One cost $6 here. America? $87. Another cost $22. America? $157. What the fuck? Our family would be screwed if we lived in the US.
It's possible to just not like Obama you know.
Because outside of racism, there are literally 0 reasons to vote for Mitt.Romney. He has not a single tangible policy or issue that you support, which is different that Obama.
And yes, generalization is a part of communication. It rarely needs to be defended, as most of us know that every single republican isn't racist. But the general reasons are racism, as there is no other reason voiced to vote for him.
Thats fair. But then the question of Why comes up... again, disdain for the man is fine. But why.
If romney is elected, it almost certainly means the republicans win the house and the senate, and they end up replacing 1 or 2 moderate/liberal judges on the SC with hard right ideologues like Scalia, ensuring a 6-3 or 7-2 majority in the immediate future, and a conservative majority for the rest of our lives.
It means the PPACA gets repealed (which means people under 26 can't get covered by their parents, and pre-existing conditions can be used to deny coverage, and lifetime caps on coverage are legal again, and companies no longer have to limit their administrative costs/overhead spending to 15% or lower, and the donut hole in prescription drug coverage comes back, and... you get the idea).
It means that dodd-frank gets repealed (not that it was great, but at least it was SOMETHING).
It means that funding for the arts, pell grants, and public broadcasting/radio get cut.
It means further restrictions on abortion.
It means a $2T hike in defense spending and trillions in reductions of government tax receipts at the same time.
It means medicare and social security likely get gutted by increasing the eligibility age, decreasing benefits, and/or a combination of both.
It means a much more unilateral/brute force approach to foreign policy instead of coaliation building and intel gathering.
A romney election means conservatives control every aspect of government when the bounceback from the Great Recession kicksinto high gear (the unemployment rate would be under 7% right now had conservative state governments not enacted austerity measures. Not to mention the fact that obama's jobs bill was killed by the GOP as well, delaying the recovery instead of creating 1 million new jobs in 2011/2012). It means that the republicans get credit for the recovery that they tried to stonewall and draw out as long as possible unitl it became most politically beneficial for them.
It means the neo-conservative ideology sticks around for the next 30 or 40 years, most likely.
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NinjaFridge
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No, they're all klan members man, that's the most reasonable reason someone wouldn't vote for him.
Sirpopopop
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That sounds accurate.
and this is why i stay out of political threads.
Perspicacity
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That's the opposite of what I was saying actually. You shouldn't have to defend against that generalization at all and I'm uncomfortable with how easily a select group of people on my side will paint republicans all with the same brush.
You should be defending your choice of Romney by actually offering up the reasons why you do support him, rather than just scoffing at the accusations of racism. If you have solid grounding behind your position then you'd be disarming most of the people making generalizations about you.
Your continued failing to do that is what's frustrating and turning people against you.
Sure, if you're ignorant of the actual issues, it's pretty possible.
Also, we're not just talking about liking Obama in a vacuum. We're talking about voting for Romney instead. I really want to hear legitimately why someone who isn't ignorant thinks he might be a better president.
The people that don't like Obama, tend to hang chairs from trees on their front lawn as well.
aronnov reborn
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which isn't true if you actually were reading. your fellow libs brought up the type of people who vote for romney.. which i had the nerve to respond to.
I believe in fiscal responsibility. I'm not rich by any means but i dont think those making more then me should have to pay a higher %. that's just not fair to me and smells of greed. when i see the person in the grocery store in front of me buy $40 in lottery tickets then uses a food stamp card to buy groceries i think she should pay some federal taxes.. *gasp* i know.
I could go on and on and on with my views but everyone disagrees with them here anyways. it has nothing to do with Islam or color of skin.
Angelus Errare
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You shouldn't be voting on the fate of a country just because you don't "like" someone. That's petty and stupid. You vote based on policies and stances, hate someone all you want. But if that person has your best interest at heart, you need to put aside such pettiness and vote to help you and others.
Isn't New Zealand the only country aside from the US that allows pharmaceuticals to advertise to the public through TV, pop-culture magazines, etc?
You evidently lack the nerve to talk about the OP.
Reminder that aronnov reborn thinks this is witty:
Ahahaha, still laughing.
Sirpopopop
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Then explain why voting for Mitt Romney is a good choice.
All you are doing is saying that politics suck, & PoliGAF sucks, without adding any credibility or substance to your opinion.
Right now, you are just trolling.
My challenge to you is to stop trolling, and add some substance.
And a lot of us would still like to know the reason why? Better yet, why would you rather have Romney running your country over Obama? Answering with accusations of generalizations is not a legitimate answer.
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