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[brotkasten]

I don't know which of the OEM it was (my guess is Acer), but planting that $200 rumor was genius.

 

[Windu]

this right fucking here.

Acer Iconia w510 for the win.

Lenovo Lynx > 510.

 

[Ephemeris]

Not sure what I was expecting. 299 is probably my blind purchase limit; for $500, it should have come with the Touch Cover. It is 32GB's however.

RT is pretty much dead to me. Pro or bust.

 

[Ghost]

UK pricing up

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/productID.257929400?WT.mc_id=FY13WinHH

32 GB without Black Touch Cover is £399.00. With the cover is £479.

So they've just matched the iPad pricing (Surface is cheaper when you add the iPad cover), could have been worse tbh, still not buying one.

 

[f0lken]

Lenovo Lynx > 510.

But is more expensive isn't it? At that point you should add the $100 more and buy the Acer w700, the w510 is the only Atom tablet in my mind honestly

EDIT: They are at the same price, good!

 

[Anton Sugar]

MS as a company, or the Surface as a product? The Surface as a product definitely comes across as premium to me. Some innovation thrown in with great design and build quality. Back when it was unveiled in June, you'd be hard pressed to find someone whose mind wasn't blown.

This. I think the Surface drummed up plenty of "desire".

 

[Windu]

But is more expensive isn't it? At that point you should add the $100 more and buy the Acer w700, the w510 is the only Atom tablet in my mind honestly

Both 64gb versions with the keyboard dock are i believe 750.

 

[Conor 419]

So what price are we estimating for Surface Pro? I'm still trying to decide on whether to wait for that or purchase the Vaio Duo 11 i7 on the 26th.

 

[Duxxy3]

$200 more than i was expecting for a version without the keyboard.

Microsofts edge over apple has always been the price and an open system. They've thrown out both with the surface RT.

 

[Gustav]

32 GB with Black Touch Cover
579,00 €

German price.

 

[jbug617]

Apple announce another event 3 days before Windows 8 launch.

 

[PG2G]

Microsofts edge over apple has always been the price and an open system. They've thrown out both with the surface RT.

You're comparing Microsoft as a software company to Apple as a device company. Microsoft is trying to establish themselves at the premium OEM of the ecosystem and allowing other OEMs to compete as they traditionally would.

 

[Windu]

So what price are we estimating for Surface Pro? I'm still trying to decide on whether to wait for that or purchase the Vaio Duo 11 i7 on the 26th.

$1000

 

[buhdeh]

Apple announce another event 3 days before Windows 8 launch.

Meh. Haven't actually been excited for an Apple product since the iPhone 4 and maybe the iPad 3. I am more excited about the Surface Pro.

 

[maeh2k]

You can't build a premium product by pricing it higher.

This is something MS doesn't understand, and have never understood.

In order to create a premium line of product, you need to create desire, inspiration and panache! MS has none of that. I will stop here because nothing more need to be said.

Looking at the used materials, the attention paid to details such as the stand, the angled camera and the covers, the Surface is about as premium as it gets. And people know that and want that.

That's why there's a 170 page long thread about the Surface as opposed to no thread at all for the Acer Iconia W510.

 

[Hoo-doo]

This. I think the Surface drummed up plenty of "desire".

Among the tech enthusiasts? Maybe. I even think this is one of the less desired tablets out there, compared to the pre-release hype I witnessed around shit tablets like the Xoom and Samsung Galaxy Tab.

The general populace though? They probably don't even know what the thing looks like and the fact that it's only getting sold in Windows stores won't do it any favors.

 

[Ephemeris]

Apple announce another event 3 days before Windows 8 launch.

That was coming for a while.

13 inch Retina MacBook Pro is mine :|

 

[jaxword]

Well the RT price made the decision easier, Acer with full Win 8 it is...for the same price.

Can that be updated with programs and apps? I.e. Music makers?

If so, that may be the one for me.

 

[Windu]

Can that be updated with programs and apps? I.e. Music makers?

If so, that may be the one for me.

Yes its x86.

 

[f0lken]

The general populace though? They probably don't even know what the thing looks like and the fact that it's only getting sold in Windows stores won't do it any favors.

They watched it yesterday in the Monday Night Football and Dancing with the stars, I think some of the general populace are starting to knows what it is

 

[Subitai]

this right fucking here.

Acer Iconia w510 for the win.

November 9th! 3 days after Halo 4. >< If I get this I'll be too overloaded with Christmas early.

The 11.1 in Samsung is pretty sweet, but $750 to get it with a keyboard.

 

[tino]

Looking at the used materials, the attention paid to details such as the stand, the angled camera and the covers, the Surface is about as premium as it gets. And people know that and want that.

That's why there's a 170 page long thread about the Surface as opposed to no thread at all for the Acer Iconia W510.

I am sure the buyers of w510 (alone) to the Surface RT on this forum is at least 5:1. And I am not even buying the w510.

 

[Baconsammy]

Meh. Haven't actually been excited for an Apple product since the iPhone 4 and maybe the iPad 3. I am more excited about the Surface Pro.

Me either, but that's mainly due to being sick to death of iOS. So weak.

 

[Duxxy3]

Looking at the used materials, the attention paid to details such as the stand, the angled camera and the covers, the Surface is about as premium as it gets. And people know that and want that.

That's why there's a 170 page long thread about the Surface as opposed to no thread at all for the Acer Iconia W510.

As much as it pains me to say this - apple is seen as premium, microsoft is not.

 

[PG2G]

Among the tech enthusiasts? Maybe. I even think this is one of the less desired tablets out there, compared to the pre-release hype I witnessed around shit tablets like the Xoom and Samsung Galaxy Tab.

The general populace though? They probably don't even know what the thing looks like and the fact that it's only getting sold in Windows stores won't do it any favors.

The general populace saw it all over Facebook back in June and probably forgot about it. Microsoft will be spending a lot of money to remind them over the next week or two.

 

[Hoo-doo]

The general populace saw it all over Facebook back in June and probably forgot about it. Microsoft will be spending a lot of money to remind them over the next week or two.

I best hope they do. I still remember the superbowl ads for the Motorola Xoom though, lot of good it did them.

 

[f0lken]

As much as it pains me to say this - apple is seen as premium, microsoft is not.

Well, Microsoft never before built its own PC, who knows what will happen once they release this

 

[zephervack]

The general populace saw it all over Facebook back in June and probably forgot about it. Microsoft will be spending a lot of money to remind them over the next week or two.

My programmer friends dont even know that RT tablets dont run desktop mode, they just assumed it did.

Most confusing launch indeed, and at these prices I dont blame them for assuming full desktop mode.

 

[giga]

Microsoft were really serious about matching iPad pricing.

http://surface.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/Content/pbpage.HD_Digital_Adapter?ESICaching=off

 

[Tathanen]

Has there ever been a photo of what a Surface looks like with the Type keyboard attached, but the two of them actually.. closed? Sandwiched together?

 

[Ghost]

My programmer friends dont even know that RT tablets dont run desktop mode, they just assumed it did.

Most confusing launch indeed, and at these prices I dont blame them for assuming full desktop mode.

It does run desktop mode, it doesn't run x86 apps.

 

[aesop]

Welp, pre-ordered the 32gb with touch cover.

 

[JaggedSac]

Microsoft were really serious about matching iPad pricing.

http://surface.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/Content/pbpage.HD_Digital_Adapter?ESICaching=off

Is that a proprietary cable?

 

[SCHUEY F1]

The Acer looks like the way to go, but that dock

Still love the form factor of the Surface and the pricing is pretty much what I expected

Looking forward to trying out these devices.

 

[PG2G]

As much as it pains me to say this - apple is seen as premium, microsoft is not.

This is really the first showing of Microsoft as a device company. They will need to earn the reputation and the Surface is definitely a step in that direction.

 

[dwebo]

they should fix the store page so that when you select the cheapest sku, it doesn't still say everywhere in the details that a touch cover is still included

 

[Duxxy3]

Well, Microsoft never before built its own PC, who knows what will happen once they release this

But they have released hardware in the past. They attempted to go for the premium market and it just hasn't succeeded.

 

[giga]

Is that a proprietary cable?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

So when will the Pro model (full Win 8) be announced?

 

[brotkasten]

So when will the Pro model (full Win 8) be announced?

Early 2013.

 

[Gareth Bale]

UK pricing up

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/productID.257929400?WT.mc_id=FY13WinHH

32 GB without Black Touch Cover is £399.00. With the cover is £479.

£479 is insane. I was going to receive one as a gift, but I feel bad about someone paying for this when it's so overpriced.

 

[JaggedSac]

Guess I could have just clicked the link. And thanks for the highlighted text.

 

[f0lken]

But they have released hardware in the past. They attempted to go for the premium market and it just hasn't succeeded.

I am pretty sure that a lot of their hardware (mouses, keyboards, Xbox 360) is seen as premium, just the Zune and the Kin (ugh) don't

 

[Windu]

Microsoft were really serious about matching iPad pricing.

http://surface.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/Content/pbpage.HD_Digital_Adapter?ESICaching=off

lol. I hope they dont take over the x86 laptop market.

 

[enzo_gt]

Holy shit at the pricing.

Holy shit.

I hope prices come down by the time the pro is out cause it's a definite no right now. I told y'all the $300 price was too good to be true, they're serious about that tablet/ultrabook duality.

 

[Moppet13]

I am pretty sure that a lot of their hardware (mouses, keyboards, Xbox 360) is seen as premium, just the Zune and the Kin (ugh) don't

Their 5-10 dollar range Microsoft rubber dome keyboards seen as premium? Doubt it, along with their mice. It all comes across as standard in my opinion.

 

[Osiris]

I am pretty sure that a lot of their hardware (mouses, keyboards, Xbox 360) is seen as premium, just the Zune and the Kin (ugh) don't

360? sure, their mice and keyboards? lol, hell no!

 

[CrankyJay]

Microsoft was in a lose-lose position with their pricing. If they priced it lower than Apple's offerings then they're basically making it seem like their product isn't as premium. They should have at least included the smart cover.

 

[f0lken]

Their 5-10 dollar range Microsoft rubber dome keyboards seen as premium? Doubt it, along with their mice. It all comes across as standard in my opinion.

Which they sell at $75 dollars! How is that not seen as premium?

 

[Duxxy3]

I am pretty sure that a lot of their hardware (mouses, keyboards, Xbox 360) is seen as premium, just the Zune and the Kin (ugh) don't

360 as premium? XBL maybe, but not the hardware.

I've never considered their mice or keyboards as premium (maybe their ergonomic keyboards).