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[Hoo-doo]

360? sure, their mice and keyboards? lol, hell no!

I highly doubt the Xbox 360 is seen as a "premium" device either.

 

[barkers crest]

Windows RT vs. Windows 8

Windows RT contains many of the same features as Windows 8:

• Fluid, intuitive, and easy-to-use interface design that you can easily customize.
• Built in apps like Mail, Calendar, Messaging, Photos, and SkyDrive with many more apps available in the Windows Store.
• Internet Explorer 10, for fast, intuitive browsing.
• Touch-enabled so you can interact with Windows in a whole new way.
• Mouse and keyboard–enabled so you can be as productive as you need to be.

Windows RT also includes some different features:

• Windows Update and Windows Defender are always on and up to date making your PC more secure.
• Device encryption provides advanced data protection to help keep your information secure.
• The PC can turn on instantly with connected standby.
• Office Home & Student 2013 RT Preview is preinstalled2.

Some features aren't included in Windows RT:

• Windows Media Player
• Windows Media Center
• HomeGroup creation (you can join an existing HomeGroup but you can't create a new one)
• Remote Desktop
• Domain join

Although you can install apps directly from the Windows Store, you can't install apps on the desktop on Windows RT. Office Home and Student 2013 RT Preview Edition comes preinstalled2, which provides you with touch-optimized desktop versions of the new Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote.

You can only install printers, mice, keyboards, and other devices that are certified for Windows RT.
[1] HD Video Out also requires the HD Digital AV Adapter or VGA Adapter (each sold separately).

[2] Microsoft Home and Student 2013 RT Preview edition installed. Final Office Home & Student version will be installed via Windows Update when available (free download; ISP fees apply). Some features and programs unsupported. Office Home & Student 2013 RT Preview and the final version are not for use in commercial, nonprofit, or revenue generating activities. Commercial license options available (sold separately). See http://office.com/officeRT.

[3] Surface with Windows RT works exclusively with apps from the Windows Store.

I am their exact target audience but at this price point (base + addons to get real experience) I think I'll sit this one out on the sidelines.

 

[hwalker84]

The nerd in me still wants one. I cannot preorder this until I get some hands on previews.

 

[Conor 419]

Would I be right in saying that the Sony Duo 11's i7-3517U processor is actually not that powerful?

 

[Technosteve]

when will they be in the Microsoft store to try out?

 

[dwebo]

I am their exact target audience but at this price point (base + addons to get real experience) I think I'll sit this one out on the sidelines.

I swear I've read that rt has remote desktop capability (client, anyway)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8_editions#Comparison_chart

 

[Windu]

when will they be in the Microsoft store to try out?

26th.

 

[kharma45]

£479 is insane. I was going to receive one as a gift, but I feel bad about someone paying for this when it's so overpriced.

£329 for base and £399 with keyboard it might've had a chance, sad to see them price it out over here.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Does anyone know if these will be available at somewhere like bestbuy where you can test them out?

 

[barkers crest]

I swear I've read that rt has remote desktop capability

Straight from the microsoft store page.

http://surface.microsoftstore.com/s...age.Surface?ESICaching=off&WT.mc_id=FY13WinHH

Read: Help me to Choose

yeah i think its just client and not host. There is also a new version of remote desktop in the store built for the new ui.

They should probably be more clear about this.

 

[Windu]

I swear I've read that rt has remote desktop capability (client, anyway)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8_editions#Comparison_chart

yeah i think its just client and not host. There is also a new version of remote desktop in the store built for the new ui.

 

[Windu]

Does anyone know if these will be available at somewhere like bestbuy where you can test them out?

Early 2013.

 

[jbug617]

Just checking out a couple of tech sites and guess what's the headline. Apple Event next week.

 

[brotkasten]

Just checking out a couple of tech sites and guess what's the headline. Apple Event next week.

Guess which news broke few hours ago?

 

[Gareth Bale]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

 

[Moppet13]

Which they sell at $75 dollars! How is that not seen as premium?

Not too sure what you're going for here. I mean you can easily find Microsoft keyboards in the 10-20 dollar range. 5 was a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[Mudkips]

Am I at Dairy Queen? Because these prices are riDQulous.

But at least my penis is safe by a wide, wide margin.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Just checking out a couple of tech sites and guess what's the headline. Apple Event next week.

That's because it's new news lol

 

[tino]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

If you can hold out after the holiday, MS will find out they can't sell the 5 million Surface they order, and they will pull a BB Playbook discount. It may not be a TouchPad fire sale but you should be able to get a bundle at much lower price.

 

[Sean]

Microsoft is crazy, this is priced at least $100 too high. And when the iPad mini is announced on October 23rd (just 3 days before Surface launch) the price gap will likely be even wider.

Not sure what Microsoft was thinking here.

 

[enzo_gt]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

Even though I can't afford it, there's no way I would wish death on the first tablet to get things right. This is a shake up we need in the market.

Even at those prices I think it's competitive with the iPad in terms of value, but I don't think the average consumer will.

 

[diffusionx]

Just checking out a couple of tech sites and guess what's the headline. Apple Event next week.

Yea, none of the sites covered Microsoft's event in June. Fucking Apple.

 

[Doffen]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

No.

 

[popeutlal]

Lenovo Lynx > 510.

Lynx is $600 for 32gb, no? W510 is 64gb for $600. Though Lynx does have a slightly bigger screen, but the same resolution.

 

[Biggzy]

Microsoft is crazy, this is priced at least $100 too high. And when the iPad mini is announced on October 23rd (just 3 days before Surface launch) the price gap will likely be even wider.

Not sure what Microsoft was thinking here.

The iPad mini will most probably canalize the Kindle fire and the Nexus 7 sales, rather than the surface.

 

[Technosteve]

i don't understand all people pissed about price, you think microsoft telegraphing that this is going to be a premium product by highlighting the craftsmanship and design of the product would put people in the mind set that this thing isn't going to be cheap.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Microsoft is crazy, this is priced at least $100 too high. And when the iPad mini is announced on October 23rd (just 3 days before Surface launch) the price gap will likely be even wider.

Not sure what Microsoft was thinking here.

New iPad

16gb 499.99
32gb 599.99
64gb 699.99

Surface

32gb 499.99 (No Touch Cover)
32gb 599.99
64gb 699.99

i don't understand all people pissed about price, you think microsoft telegraphing that this is going to be a premium product by highlighting the craftsmanship and design of the product would put people in the mind set that this thing isn't going to be cheap.

This.

 

[Duxxy3]

The iPad mini will most probably canalize the Kindle fire and the Nexus 7 sales, rather than the surface.

If it hits $299 somehow, then yes, that should kill off the kindle and nexus 7 basically overnight.

 

[Divvy]

This.

It would be fine if the 499 price included the touch cover but it doesn't. Considering how MS is marketting the Surface with cover as the complete package (the click in slogan hinges on the fact the customer buys both products), it only makes sense to consider the 599 price as the base price.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I was like 499, meh that's a lot but not bad. Then I saw the 120 for the cover and milk came out of my nose.

And I wasn't even drinking milk.

 

[Dany]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

Wow.

 

[Dunlop]

If it hits $299 somehow, then yes, that should kill off the kindle and nexus 7 basically overnight.

yeah...no

assuming you mean the ipad-mini

 

[Anton Sugar]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

 

[giga]

Pretty pissed off about this to be honest. I kind of want Surface to fail now, even if I do get one. It deserves to fail for the price they're lauching it at.

 

[Emily Chu]

hold up... I know flash is "dead" ("undead")

but does the RT support it ?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

hold up... I know flash is "dead" ("undead")

but does the RT support it ?

no it doesn't support flash completely but there is a whitelist that will allow specific sites to use it (they decide, not you). But it's not internet wide.

 

[tino]

hold up... I know flash is "dead" ("undead")

but does the RT support it ?

Well some porn sites do have non-flash versions.

 

[Gareth Bale]

Bring your gifs. How many of you would pay $770 for the 32gb with keyboard?

 

[Krauser Kat]

If it hits $299 somehow, then yes, that should kill off the kindle and nexus 7 basically overnight.

What? one hundred dollars more than the competition.

 

[Doffen]

It would be fine if the 499 price included the touch cover but it doesn't. Considering how MS is marketting the Surface with cover as the complete package (the click in slogan hinges on the fact the customer buys both products), it only makes sense to consider the 599 price as the base price.

So you do not like the fact that you can choose to go for the 499 and then buy the type cover to save money?

 

[Windu]

hold up... I know flash is "dead" ("undead")

but does the RT support it ?

Supports most of the major sites.

 

[Biggzy]

yeah...no

assuming you mean the ipad-mini

He does mean the iPad mini.

 

[Emily Chu]

no it doesn't support flash completely but there is a whitelist that will allow specific sites to use it (they decide, not you). But it's not internet wide.

"they decide" not you

what the hell ?

RT sounds more shit and shit each passing day and now 499$.....

 

[brotkasten]

And that is coffee on my desk and some papers now.

Thanks, asshole.

 

[Technosteve]

hold up... I know flash is "dead" ("undead")

but does the RT support it ?

nope, your porn is not safe. Although all the good sites have h264 support already.

 

[Emily Chu]

Bring your gifs. How many of you would pay $770 for the 32gb with keyboard?

Pro - YES
RT - NO

 

[Dunlop]

"they decide" not you

what the hell ?

RT sounds more shit and shit each passing day and now 499$.....

Flash is pretty much dead in the mobile space, this isn't a MS decision

 

[PSYGN]

There will obviously be a price cut in the near future if you don't want buyers remorse, because it is a tad pricey.

 

[tino]

If it hits $299 somehow, then yes, that should kill off the kindle and nexus 7 basically overnight.

And Google has a $99 Tablet coming out. Now what?

 

[LukasTaves]

I am their exact target audience but at this price point (base + addons to get real experience) I think I'll sit this one out on the sidelines.

Wuuut, WinRT has no remote desktop?

NOOO, the dream of a WinRT device using remote desktop for development is now over

Edit: Oh, it does have the client. So it's still good!