NullPointer
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Yeh, still waiting to hear about those Romney specifics I supposedly glossed over.
One of my favorite parts.
US Town Hall Debate |OT| When is the election? What are the names of the candidates?
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He was talking about you need to be more flexible when employing women since most of them have kids. so that whole 8pm thing might not work. they need to be home at 5 pm
And yea, that is a fucked up, old guy traditionalist attitude caust that assumes its the woman's job to make dinner and take care of the kids, not the man's job (or a job they do together)
I love reading Die Linke referred to as "the far-left Left Party" in Der Spiegel's English language stories.
Binders full of women...where they can go home early and cook.
I feel like such an asshole even typing that..how could he think that was a good idea.
PPP crosstabs:
* Obama won the debate on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC. Romney won on C-SPAN, Fox, ABC. Did not realize that C-SPAN was so far right -- 27/73 vs 48/44 for the whole group.
* PBS watchers were the least moved by the debate.
* "Moderates" give the debate to Obama 63-37; they think he understands them better 67-33; it improved their opinion of him 53-25 and hurt their opinion of Romney 47-27. 18% of "moderates" watch Fox News, only 13% MSNBC.
* Obama improved his opinion among men 40-33, women only 41-39. Romney improved his opinion among men 41-37, women 46-33. However women did not change their vote (36-36), men did (38-35 Obama).
* Independents became more likely to vote for Obama, 45-31. 18% of "independents" watch Fox News, 13% MSNBC.
* Obama slightly lost among white people, won hugely among Hispanics and other races. White people -- 40-33 more like to vote for Romney; Hispanics 57-18 for Obama; other races 52-23 for Obama.
* Obama won the debate on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC. Romney won on C-SPAN, Fox, ABC. Did not realize that C-SPAN was so far right -- 27/73 vs 48/44 for the whole group.
* PBS watchers were the least moved by the debate.
* "Moderates" give the debate to Obama 63-37; they think he understands them better 67-33; it improved their opinion of him 53-25 and hurt their opinion of Romney 47-27. 18% of "moderates" watch Fox News, only 13% MSNBC.
* Obama improved his opinion among men 40-33, women only 41-39. Romney improved his opinion among men 41-37, women 46-33. However women did not change their vote (36-36), men did (38-35 Obama).
* Independents became more likely to vote for Obama, 45-31. 18% of "independents" watch Fox News, 13% MSNBC.
* Obama slightly lost among white people, won hugely among Hispanics and other races. White people -- 40-33 more like to vote for Romney; Hispanics 57-18 for Obama; other races 52-23 for Obama.
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Probably because the margin was tiny compared to the one in the 1st debate.
Tough crowd
Guy on the upper right.
Harry Potter
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Tough crowd
Kissed by fire.
I might be late on this, but you're saying the best interpretation is that he meant "Some people are going to vote for Obama no matter what, oh well", when he said "Half the country feel like victims and feel entitled to shit".
That's not "not phrasing it the best way", that's phrasing it the worst possible way where it no longer means you you think it means. You're pulling like the smallest part of what he said (the fact that those 47% aren't gonna vote for him) and saying it was the whole meaning and none of the offensive stuff matters. Ridiculous. Saying "Half the country isn't gonna vote for me no matter what" is one thing, saying "Half the country isn't gonna vote for me because they're lazy/entitled/victims so they're not my problem" is totally different. And THAT is clearly what he said.
And yeah, if you're the president, you're the president of the whole country, not just those who voted for you.
no i was literally trying to urinate, the people outside were talking about the debate and it totally killed my pee boner.
i think obama performed very well in this debate though
And Oblivion scores another point.
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CaptainABAB
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I am an Obama supporter but that is an unfair categorization of Romney. Here is the actual quote:
"I recognized that if you're going to have women in the workforce that sometimes you need to be more flexible. My chief of staff, for instance, had two kids that were still in school.
She said, I can't be here until 7 or 8 o'clock at night. I need to be able to get home at 5 o'clock so I can be there for making dinner for my kids and being with them when they get home from school. So we said fine. Let's have a flexible schedule so you can have hours that work for you."
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anywhere I can watch this whole thing?
Officerrob
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He was Biden without the laughing
stufte
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Wait... how many points does he have?
You can catch all the debates, with zero commentary, on this link. In HD. Has the last two as well and always has live coverage when the come on.
http://youtu.be/QEpCrcMF5Ps
edit: shit didn't mean for it to link to an hour in, but you can click backwards.
CaptainABAB
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Agreed.
i thought the big bird thing was stupid because it was an attempt by liberals to act like, 'see? see? romney's an idiot! obama totally didn't completely lose that debate! remember big bird?'
the binders thing, now that goes back to just making fun of romney in general for being an out-of-touch weirdo. it's comforting to see it, because it means things are returning to normal.
the binders thing, now that goes back to just making fun of romney in general for being an out-of-touch weirdo. it's comforting to see it, because it means things are returning to normal.
The summary seems pretty accurate to the quote.
oneils
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Lol! There is a ton of straight porn with the Palin theme going on. I wonder if there is any gay porn out there that dramatizes this. Would watch.
Wait.... so how does that contradict what I said?
NullPointer
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I need a pic of Obama standing there, tough as shit, eyes shooting death rays, talking about how Romney's comments were offensive re:Libya and playing politics.
I think my heart skipped a beat. Thought some shit was about to go down.
I think my heart skipped a beat. Thought some shit was about to go down.
it's just such an awkward thing to say...
I could not find any qualified women. So I went to go look in binders full of women...like...how did he think this was a good idea.
My favorite part:
As Obama took his leadership position, took the blame, then shot down Romney for turning American deaths into political points.
The lady in the first row looks mad.
SlowRevolution
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Remember this is a scientific poll.
Officerrob
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And I'm done with CNN........forever
Was that before or after the "please, proceed, Governor" comment?
dark_chris
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Is there a way I can watch it? I missed it. =(
Romney's having a tough time swaying my vote as he keeps saying we need someone who leads from in front, not from behind. However, when ever pressed for specifics to his plans all he has is "I'll get together with bipartisans and we'll work it out". I'm baffled how that is leadership. I can't even consider him for my vote until he tells me what he'll fight for. If he continues to tell me nothing is important enough to take a stand or have an opinion on, he's forcing me to vote for Obama. Not that voting for Obama is some sin, it's just frustrating that there isn't even a choice.
"How do you feel about women making 77% less than men in equivalent positions"
"I'm going to hire women"
ROMNEY LADIES AND GENTLEMAN
No, the tiny pic links still work. I put the top image back into the post with a photoeditor.
Because Chris Hayes is amazing. You have to wade through idiots like Schultz and Sharpton to get to him, though, but it's totally worh it.
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