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They liked his performance as a debater better even if they agreed with Romney more.

Who agreed with Romney?

Was about his ideas about women and their role in society and the work place?

Was it when Romney talked about self-deportation?

You tell me.

I'll wait.

And read the transcript.
 
Oops, looks like the mod thinks Romney was right generally with regard to his Libya accusations, only wrong on a technicality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=athcyCTnTTs

She did state that it took 14 days for him to call it terrorism after she called him out on what he was saying BO didn't say.. He wanted to go off on him with a technicality. That was his play. Even if he was right, which I don't even know that means in the case of Libya at this point, he tried to turn it into a "gotcha" or "flip flop" when he wasn't prepped for it.

Wishful thinking. It's coming back into port on Monday.

No, it most certainly will not. He'll try to keep pushing it, BO will either eat it like he did today or fire back about the fact it was a secret CIA location therefor there wasn't a lot of info he could give publicly or how the GOP voted to cut funding, and they'll move on.

It's gonna be a repeat of Biden and Ryan.
 
Man I am in some bizarro world with CNN being a right wing media. I have been watching political coverage since 94 and that's the first time I've ever heard that assertion .

I've said for years CNN over the years has been a mix of centrist, left slanted centrist or right slanted centrist. Only Americans can't see that difference because imo the US is a right veering country compared to the vast majority of the developed world. Even your left is actually centrist.

Recently CNN has been veering more centrist right, and a quick Google shows discussion on this. On the economy, on politics, on the Occupy movement, on foreign policy etc etc.
 
Also found it pathetic that Romney's comeback for Libya attack is that Obama didn't call it an act of terrorism day one?!?!? Is that really your main concern? And then I head to the gym and listen to Fox News radio to hear what coworkers will be talking about and they're talking about the main takeaway from the debate was the Libya issue.

Radio Guy: "Here's the quote '"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for...'. No where does he address the incident as an act of terror although he used the phrase.

I didn't realize he wasn't addressing the incident while... addressing the incident. But who gives a shit what it was addressed as and on what day? Can't believe that's the only take away from the situation. Not what were the specific requests, when they came in, how far did they make it, what was the reasoning for them being ignored, etc. NO, what is of concern is when did he officially call it an act of terrorism.
 
The rest of the word says Obama was the clear winner.


US news media says its a draw, CNN is a joke I had to change the channel.

It really was sad. I mean, CNN was the most neutral news channel for the longest. I've watched them for everything political since the Gore/Bush 2000 days. But there's no way they are being honest about these results. When nearly every other big name news station says the opposite of what you're saying.....you become biased.

The Republicans are paying them or influencing their funding or something. Something just dont seem right at CNN right now.....
 
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The internet is the best thing ever invented ever.
 
Oh, was it a direct copy/paste? I thought it was his own summary of some other outlet's take.

I knew you were better than that, pigeon! #Hope

Ahaha. Well, PPP didn't write THAT bit, but I also didn't mean that C-SPAN was far right in their journalism -- that doesn't even make sense. What I meant was that C-SPAN viewers in this poll thought Romney won the debate at a much higher rate than the rest of the channels -- higher even than Fox News! I interpret that as C-SPAN viewers (tonight, in Colorado, at least) being somewhat further to the right politically. You might interpret it differently! edit: For example, it was probably a pretty tiny sample size and not necessarily a significant result by any means, as Zero-Crescent notes. But it's fun to read tea leaves.


On the topic of binders, here's an article from David Bernstein:

the phoenix said:
Hey, I know about that binder! And guess what -- Mitt Romney was lying about it....

What actually happened was that in 2002 -- prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration -- a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.

I have written about this before, in various contexts; tonight I've checked with several people directly involved in the MassGAP effort who confirm that this history as I've just presented it is correct -- and that Romney's claim tonight, that he asked for such a study, is false.

I will write more about this later, but for tonight let me just make a few quick additional points. First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent. However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn't care about -- and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about -- budget, business development, etc. -- went to women.

Secondly, a UMass-Boston study found that the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006. (It then began rapidly rising when Deval Patrick took office.)

Third, note that in Romney's story as he tells it, this man who had led and consulted for businesses for 25 years didn't know any qualified women, or know where to find any qualified women. So what does that say?

http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx
 
Wishful thinking. It's coming back into port on Monday.

Obama stuck his chin out for Romney to destroy him on Lybia and Romney tripped all over his feet and looked like an idiot. They will cling to Lybia because that's all their is to cling to on Republican foreign policy besides the whole "apology tour" nonsense.
 
It really was sad. I mean, CNN was the most neutral news channel for the longest. I've watched them for everything political since the Gore/Bush 2000 days. But there's no way they are being honest about these results. When nearly every other big name news station says the opposite of what you're saying.....you become biased.

The Republicans are paying them or influencing their funding or something. Something just dont seem right at CNN right now.....

They're not inherently right wing but they false equivalence fucking everything which makes them appear Republican friendly
 
you missed this part
"Margin of error: +/- 4.5%. Basically a draw."

CNN going down the drain.

I hate this crap. AP actually has a style guide for reporting poll results:

–Do not exaggerate poll results. In particular, with pre-election polls, these are the rules for deciding when to write that the poll finds one candidate is leading another:

If the difference between the candidates is more than twice the sampling error margin, then the poll says one candidate is leading.

If the difference is less than the sampling error margin, the poll says that the race is close, that the candidates are "about even." (Do not use the term "statistical dead heat," which is inaccurate if there is any difference between the candidates; if the poll finds the candidates are tied, say they're tied.)

If the difference is at least equal to the sampling error but no more than twice the sampling error, then one candidate can be said to be "apparently leading" or "slightly ahead" in the race.

http://ralphehanson.com/blog/ap_poll.html
 
Who agreed with Romney?

Was about his ideas about women and their role in society and the work place?

Was it when Romney talked about self-deportation?

You tell me.

I'll wait.

And read the transcript.

It's the internals of the CNN debate poll, not my personal opinion.
 
I want an edit of that acts of terror moment, and when Romney raises his eyebrows in that asshole manner, someone edit Obama's response to "YOU GOIN TO JAIL NOW, YOU GOING TO JAIL NOW, YOU GOING TO JAIL ..." ohhhhhh.
 
So what is Romney's tax plan? I see he wants to cut taxes by about 500 billion a year or about 20% of last year's revenue. Has he even mentioned at all which loopholes he plans on closing to cover that?
 
So what is Romney's tax plan? I see he wants to cut taxes by about 500 billion a year or about 20% of last year's revenue. Has he even mentioned at all which loopholes he plans on closing to cover that?

He wants to cut taxes 20% across the board, increase the military budget by 2 trillion (by not letting certain planned cuts come in to play) and remove certain taxes on the corporate front and capital gains, as well as bringing in new benefits to off shore elements.

And how has he specified he'd pay for all this? Loopholes (which could not cover the losses, some of which he's actually adding to instead of cutting) of which he's only named two... Big bird and one other.

It's a farce. This guy should not even be a contender being considered for the worlds most important position of power. Wake up people.
 
He hasn't and never will
He'll offset it by seeking to drastically cut popular government programs, as loopholes will not nearly be enough.

The middle class will have to "share" in this pain, as reducing the deficit is a moral obligation to our next generations.

These programs are so popular though, that he didn't want to play politics by having the electorate come to any conclusions about the efficacy of cuts to these programs before he was in a position to enact these policies.

Or am I being paranoid?
 
He'll offset it by seeking to drastically cut popular government programs, as loopholes will not nearly be enough.

The middle class will have to "share" in this pain, as reducing the deficit is a moral obligation to our next generations.

These programs are so popular though, that he didn't want to play politics by having the electorate come to any conclusions about the efficacy of cuts to these programs before he was in a position to enact these policies.

Or am I being paranoid?

I think a more likely outcome is that he wont pay for it and simply watch the deficit explode
 
CNN wants to keep it a horse race,

if Obama starts to smoke Romney, it will ruin election night for CNN wanting you to tune in to see the "close" race oooh it's so tight!!!

even though Obama holds the swing states firewall
 
When some people, even surprisingly on the left were telling me that Obama was a bad debater and would lose against Romney the first time around, tonight's debate is how I EXPECTED Obama to have performed.

Eat it, babbys!
 
My brother just declared on Facebook that Obama is giving Jimmy Carter a run for his money as worst the worst US president. That's the kind of thought you have when you only get your news from hardcore Republicans.

So absurd.
 
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