Apple's October 23 Event | We've got a little more to show you.

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Apologies for cannibalising your post but there are now a lot of complaints that iph5's are shipping with interlaced displays and that LG are to blame.

I'll be honest, this is the first I've heard of such a thing.
Do you have links with pics? I'm curious about it.
 
That's an iMac, you said the driving factor behind thin HDTVs is purely on aesthetics and has nothing to do with wall mounting the TV aesthetics. I want you to supply a source or evidence of this. It's your statement that I want you to back up. You say it's obvious but when you see people talking about how thin the TV is, they're using talking about it context to a wall mount. So show me otherwise that this is generally true and not just one or two people out there.



A monitor on a desk, I can see because it eats up space, but an HDTV that you put on a stand that has nothing else to it? You'd sacrifice quality for aesthetics which is something you don't see when you're watching TV? At what point is it good enough to be a non issue for you then? It seems silly to worry about how thick it is when you don't use it from the side.

I never said wall mounting has nothing to do with it. I said the thickness of the display is important even if you aren't wall mounting it.

When did I say I'd sacrifice quality?
I said I'd always prefer a thinner display and bezel. (over a thicker one for less money for instance). At home I went with an quality IPS monitor with a thin bezel.

The other benefit is less weight.

Exactly.
 
do you really tell people you bought x for 99.99?

My point was that he's asking to get the same or more money out of it, even though he got use out of it. He can try that if he wants, but I doubt the market would bear what he's asking. I don't think Apple deals in sub-dollar units when selling hardware, 829 is just as difficult to type as 830.
 
jesus h christ


i bought nearly everything they announced in june + a 3rd gen ipad 4 months ago and now it's like....shit.

fuck it. i give up.
 
jesus h christ


i bought nearly everything they announced in june + a 3rd gen ipad 4 months ago and now it's like....shit.

fuck it. i give up.

Time to give up on technology in general. I know it is hard now, but really you will get over it after a few days.
 
jesus h christ


i bought nearly everything they announced in june + a 3rd gen ipad 4 months ago and now it's like....shit.

fuck it. i give up.

Seriously?
Why does everyone think their HW is shit when a new one is announced.
We have an ipad2 still and have no intention of upgrading it this year.
 
My point was that he's asking to get the same or more money out of it, even though he got use out of it. He can try that if he wants, but I doubt the market would bear what he's asking. I don't think Apple deals in sub-dollar units when selling hardware, 829 is just as difficult to type as 830.

It was $829.99. $830 is a lot closer than $829 is.
 
$329 price on the mini is a pretty big turn off. It's as if Apple is saying "Yeah, we know we could charge $299, but we just want an extra thirty bucks because we know you'll pay it."

At that price you might as well cough up an extra $70 and get a full-sized iPad 2.
 
Wow Apple really did the 6-month stop gap hardware with the new iPad. What the fuck are they going to do with all that stock? Will they sell for cheaper?

I suspect no new iPad announcers till next fall. I don't see a another refresh out this spring
 
Well, iMacs have had mobile GPUs for ages. that's always been the biggest performance sacrifice. this new design does not change that in any way. there's no new sacrifices in power by making it thinner - it's the same old ones.

There are new sacrifices on the 21.5" model - the hard drive is only 5400 rpm, and the RAM slots are no longer accessible.

A 5400 rpm hard drive on a machine that shipped after 2007 is just fucking embarrassing.
 
I don't see why I should ever stop caring?
If it can get smaller and lighter, and still look amazing. Go for it! It's certainly not a negative.

And my room is structured that I always see the side profile of my TV when I'm in another area working (and not using it myself). It'd be neat if all I saw was a thin line.

I see at as a point where it's a non issue and there is no reason to care about it. There's always that point. Why does the weight matter at all these days? It's silly to make it a big deal or even to make it a factor unless you're hanging it on the wall.

I never said wall mounting has nothing to do with it. I said the thickness of the display is important even if you aren't wall mounting it.

I didn't say you claimed it had nothing to do with it. I'm saying the drive for a thinner display at this point and the last couple of years is a result of people who want to mount their TVs, not just to have a thinner TV period. I'm claiming that in general people who are putting it in cabinets, or on a TV stand don't make thickness a priority anymore because they've become thin enough. The only people driving for thinner TVs are the people who want to mount them and that's understandable. I figure you of all people would understand good enough because you like to compromise on some things you buy because it's good enough after a certain point for you.
 
Every reference to people wanting a thinner display is from wall mounting and how it will look there. I never see anyone complain about the thickness when putting it simply on a stand. I think you're wrong on this one. There's no evidence that suggests people want a thin display for no reason other than aesthetics outside of a wall mount.

But, yes it's so obvious that someone else made my observation as seen here below here:



Here's another quote:



http://hometheaterreview.com/eight-reasons-to-buy-an-hdtv-today-that-doesnt-include-3d/


I don't want a thinner displays just for mounting. I like the new iMac's design just because it's thinner, looks better aesthetically and will also be easier to move around in case I have to do some rearranging in the room.
 
I see at as a point where it's a non issue and there is no reason to care about it. There's always that point. Why does the weight matter at all these days? It's silly to make it a big deal or even to make it a factor unless you're hanging it on the wall.

I guess we'll agree to disagree.
I'll be happy when we get paper thin OLED-like sheets as a standard display.
None of this is a huge deal to me. I just honestly prefer it.
 
What worries me about their future products is that they are not using samsung for their displays anymore. That leaves LG and sharp and are samsung not the better choice of displays when it came to the macbook?
If true then apples arrogance amazes me and it's obvious they don't give a shit about the quality of the end product.

I posted this in another thread, but over at High Def Junkies, a Panasonic engineer posts in the plasma forums. People were worried about whether Panasonic would be releasing 2013 models after the recent Reuters blurb about Panasonic transitioning out of the TV market. The Panasonic employee confirmed Panasonic was still releasing 2013 models, but had this to say about LCD:

http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=13706&page=46

Panasonic Employee: "I felt this was important enough to reply.Something has been lost in translation here. Himenji is scaling back. We said that already.we also look for new ways to reduce cost and gain profits.we will continue to make lcd MODULES for tv and panels for 3rd party applications. But we will continue to buy panels for our tvs..which arent going anywhere.In regards to Lcd panel production -any Samsung ties is something Apple wishes to eliminate obviously. Sharp has fallen short in making this for them and we have been moving to this position for some time. I allueded to this at ces many months ago. Apple wants reliable high quality ips but the company must show future tech that will grow with them..we can easily do such things."



Question: "Would "future tech" be considered OLED screens and/or other things such as processors?

Also, i know this is a panasonic thread, but just wondering if u can touch in with any insight on OLED. I just read an article saying Samsung and LG to postpone OLED release until 2013 now. Not shocked at all if this is true."


Panasonic Employee: "Future tech= Confidential assets. Wouldn't be smart or legal to disclose. "


At some point in the future, I'd expect an announcement on a Panasonic/Apple partnership here.
 
Wow Apple really did the 6-month stop gap hardware with the new iPad. What the fuck are they going to do with all that stock? Will they sell for cheaper?

I suspect no new iPad announcers till next fall. I don't see a another refresh out this spring

Apple runs a tight ship and has a very short inventory.
 
I still have my 1st gen iPad and have no intentions of getting the iPad 4 either. I knew that the next iPad would have lightning but I wouldn't have guessed at how they pretty much abandoned the 3 in only six months. I had thought that next years version would have been a bigger leap, but by releasing this new revision so soon it just screams to me that they are going in a fall cycle for all future products. iPad 5 next fall should be a big enough leap for me to consider upgrading. iOS 6 certainly hasn't swayed me.
 
Time to give up on technology in general. I know it is hard now, but really you will get over it after a few days.

No, I've experienced this type of thing before with Android. Asus announces the next gen transformer tablet but the tf300 tablet I got was released less than a month before the announcement of the new one.

HTC announces a phone with better specs 2 months after the original Evo.

I'm an early adapter for most technology and was hesitant on jumping on the Apple bandwagon until I was forced to.


Seriously?
Why does everyone think their HW is shit when a new one is announced.
We have an ipad2 still and have no intention of upgrading it this year.

bu bu bu but the new iPad has more Gs for apps! Plus it can connect to Sprint now. My 3rd gen is stuck with AT&T :(
 
There are new sacrifices on the 21.5" model - the hard drive is only 5400 rpm, and the RAM slots are no longer accessible.

A 5400 rpm hard drive on a machine that shipped after 2007 is just fucking embarrassing.

damn, you're right. absolutely. a 5400 rpm drive is disappointing. anyone who gets that will feel the limitations of that slower drive.
 
damn, you're right. absolutely. a 5400 rpm drive is disappointing. anyone who gets that will feel the limitations of that slower drive.

I'm planning to wait for Haswell/Retina anyway, but this certainly helped to persuade me. The Fusion storage should come standard with this thing if they're cutting out the optical drive.
 
Actually that brings up a good point. From now on the iPad can launch with a new OS rather than being launched before the OS unveiling.

Pretty much it is safe to except now ALL iOS devices get refreshed in the fall. Mac devices more up in the air throughout the year.
 
Any word on RAM and (more importantly) CPU speed?

Not that it matters. I'm simply curious as to what speeds they're getting the iPads up to, since they were able to get the iPhone 5 to run at 1.3GHz.
 
Seriously?
Why does everyone think their HW is shit when a new one is announced.
We have an ipad2 still and have no intention of upgrading it this year.

I think people expect yearly upgrade cycle from Apple because that is what they have used in the past and it keeps us happy unlike the Android ecosystem. Even Samsung have been getting better giving us a year between the S2/Note and S3/Note 2.

Just leaves a bitter taste upgrading it so soon....
 
$329 price on the mini is a pretty big turn off. It's as if Apple is saying "Yeah, we know we could charge $299, but we just want an extra thirty bucks because we know you'll pay it."

At that price you might as well cough up an extra $70 and get a full-sized iPad 2.

or an extra $50 for a refurbished iPad 3. They're starting at $379 for the 16gb WiFi version.
 
Man I remember when Apple announced the Unibody Macbooks for the first time. I snatched up the 13" at release. Then like 6 months later they made the 13" into Pro and added a bunch of stuff. That was way worse than the new iPad. I just sold my Macbook and upgraded to the Pro for only a small hit.
 
Without being able to read the whole thread, where the heck was iTunes 11? It was really the only thing I was looking forward to today. :\

Being held back until Google makes their announcement on the 29th? Who knows really. Apple has become completely erratic lately. Though from what I would surmise, they had to launch the new iPad to stem the tide of ownage that would come from the Nexus 10/Surface. They needed to have more breathing room.
 
I'm so excited to get iPad 4 (is that what we're calling it?). This was totally unexpected.

It goes on sale with the iPad Mini, correct (which would be Friday)?
 
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