College Football Week 9 - You've Got the Touch

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Been there for 2.5 years and trust me, the information is miles ahead of what you're collecting in that cesspool RaiderPower. While you were posting that Twitter says we got an unnamed OL commit on RP the people on RRS had already known a name for hours and knew he was as good as committed months ago. Anything decent on RP is stolen from RRS, and the pay section on RP is worse than the free section.

Nobody has said for sure that he's out for the season (and neither am I) but anybody with any info whatsoever knew he wasn't playing last week despite suiting up. There was a 0% chance he played last week no matter what the dress roster said. I won't be surprised at all if he's back before the bowl game, I'm just planning on him not being. I WILL be VERY surprised if he plays against KSU, though, and mildly surprised if he's back against UT. I wouldn't put his chances against KSU at quite 0% but there's definitely an asymptote along the axis.

Your line about the pay sites makes it pretty obvious you just have a general bias against pay sites (admittedly deserved in many/most cases) and haven't actually tried out RRS at all.

Chris Level on Tech Talk on Double-T 104.3 said point-blank that he doesn't know anything and is just speculating when he says he's doubtful.

P.S. Did you read the PM I sent you?
 
So I was on a Trojans blog for a few minutes and this guy was bitching about how the Big 12 doesn't play defense, so I went and looked up total defense and found this:

Total Defense is obviously kind of flawed, but I think the basic point should be that Pac 12 fans don't really have much right to criticize the Big 12 for its defensive shortcomings.



Oklahoma State is ranked 45th and gave up 59 points to Arizona.
Oregon is ranked 46th and gave up 0 points to Arizona.
 
Oklahoma State is ranked 45th and gave up 59 points to Arizona.
Oregon is ranked 46th and gave up 0 points to Arizona.

Ok St allowed them 501 yards, Oregon 332. Ok State forced 0 turnovers, Oregon 5.

Lets not act like Oregon held them in check just because Arizona imploded in the red zone. 6 red zone trips with 0 points allowed is the definition of unsustainable.

Edit: That game actually accounts for almost 1/4 of Oregon's turnovers this season. In their other 6 games the Ducks have 16 turnovers or 2.67 per game. In that game they had 5.
 
Ok St allowed them 501 yards, Oregon 332. Ok State forced 0 turnovers, Oregon 5.

Lets not act like Oregon held them in check just because Arizona imploded in the red zone. 6 red zone trips with 0 points allowed is the definition of unsustainable.


4 of those trips inside the 10-yard line, too. Oregon turned it over 3 times inside that game, all of which were in the red-zone if I remember correctly.


Arizona State had 200 yards of offense entering the 4th down 43-7. They got a pick six in the fourth and another 200 yards against our fourth stringers.

Arkansas State was down 50-3 with 7 minutes left in the second quarter when we pulled our starters. They had 99 yards of offense and finished with 530.


Just saying, defensive stats can be very inaccurate when judging quality.
 
I suppose its also worth noting Oregon's RZ Defense:

15/29 on the season, so 15/23 against teams not named Arizona which would be 65% and would drop them from first in the nation to 12th. Still pretty respectable. Those 29 red zone visits though put them at second most among teams in the top 10, so its not like you can't drive on them.

Arizona RZ offense on the season is 31/44 or 70% good for 102nd in the nation. In games against teams not named Oregon they are 31/38 or 81.5% which would put them around 60th in the nation.
 
I suppose its also worth noting Oregon's RZ Defense:

15/29 on the season, so 15/23 against teams not named Arizona which would be 65% and would drop them from first in the nation to 12th. Still pretty respectable. Those 29 red zone visits though put them at second most among teams in the top 10, so its not like you can't drive on them.

Arizona RZ offense on the season is 31/44 or 70% good for 102nd in the nation. In games against teams not named Oregon they are 31/38 or 81.5% which would put them around 60th in the nation.



Your negative RZ doesn't take everything in account. Second half blowouts, turnovers - the only unbiased and absolutely certain metric we have to gauge them with is the eye test.
 
Oregon D definitely passes the eye test, those guys look really unscoreonable out there.

But let's face facts, they're only playing Pac-12 offenses right now. If they win out, they'll be facing Alabama for the MNC game, and one of the all-time great QBs in AJ McCarron.
 
Oregon D definitely passes the eye test, those guys look really unscoreonable out there.

But let's face facts, they're only playing Pac-12 offenses right now. If they win out, they'll be facing Alabama for the MNC game, and one of the all-time great QBs in AJ McCarron.

Did you know he's on pace to match the SEC record for touchdown passes in a season (24) held by former Cal standout Nate Longshore?
 
Did you know he's on pace to match the SEC record for touchdown passes in a season (24) held by former Cal standout Nate Longshore?

Uh, there's no way that 24 is the SEC record for a season. I mean in the last 12 years the high mark is held by Andre Woodson with 40 back in 2007.

Rex Grossman had 34 in 2001, and Ryan Mallet had 32 back in 2010.
 
My google fu is sucking tonight but I did find this:


This was of course the legendary John Parker Wilson 4 years ago. You can see his final career stats here.

If McCarron finishes at his current rates he will have: 181/265 2531 29 TD 0 INTs. But I figure a lot of his stat rates will go up for at least the next 3 games since he will likely have to play at least 3 quarters in each game.
 
You are just upset that Louisville hasn't beat Marshall in 30+ years. I was there when we won last year. The Papa John's owner pulled his old car into the endzone area at halftime and cranked his engine. How much money has he given?

I am really just playing. Louisville has some pretty great fans and I had a great time. It is interesting how every single seat is a chairback.

I really wish everything wasn't getting screwed up by money. I would love to have a more regional conference with Marshall, Cincy, Louisville, Ohio, Temple, ECU, Memphis (maybe bball only haha), etc...
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I'm going to pretend that I didn't just read 10 or so posts from PAC-101 guys talking about Defense.

You can all bag on McCarron all you want to without hurting my feelings, but you'll be hard pressed to find any of our Bama fans making claims of him being the next Joe Montana or being anything more than one of the best quarterbacks we have ever had.
 
Oregon D definitely passes the eye test, those guys look really unscoreonable out there.

After demolishing perennial Pac12 favorites like Arizona and Washington, Oregon looks to bring their imposing defense to the national stage. Bama won't know what hit em, they aren't used to the speed and finesse and athleticism of this storied Oregon ducks defense.
 
I'm going to pretend that I didn't just read 10 or so posts from PAC-101 guys talking about Defense.

You can all bag on McCarron all you want to without hurting my feelings, but you'll be hard pressed to find any of our Bama fans making claims of him being the next Joe Montana or being anything more than one of the best quarterbacks we have ever had.

Well, you guys haven't played much of anybody thus far, and he's got a ridiculous offensive line in front of him and throwing to some good receivers. He's a system QB and he's doing well because of everyone else around him. Swap a crappy OL in there and some middling RB's and his stats wouldn't be what they are. He's experiencing what I like to call the USC effect.

That said, his stats are great.
 
It's funny to me Manti Te'o is getting all this Heisman talk. His numbers are very pedestrian, I feel like the media is like "well ND is undefeated, we need someone from them to be a heisman contender."

Only 69 tackles, 2.5 tfl, no sacks, and 4 ints (2 of which came against Duhnard), and 0 forced fumbles.
 
So yesterday I posted about how Shawn Williams of UGA called out his defensive unit for playing soft this year and said that Alec Ogletree and Amarlo Herrera should never be off the field because they're aggressive and hitting hard, implying that Robinson and Gilliard shouldn't be out there. Definitely ruffled some feathers yesterday, despite him saying it to the team before, some were understandably upset about being talked about to the media. So Gilliard said he's just taking it as his character being questioned, and in his words, beat the shit out of the ballcarrier at practice yesterday. Other guys on the defense mentioned that the gauntlet has been thrown and now it's time for them to show whether they're soft like Williams said or if they're man enough to play the defense they played last year.

My perspective is that it's normally not a good idea to go to the media to talk about internal issues. And I'd normally be against it. Though I think this type of thing may have almost been necessary because all the pep talks they were giving behind the scenes clearly weren't motivating guys enough.
 
Chris Level on Tech Talk on Double-T 104.3 said point-blank that he doesn't know anything and is just speculating when he says he's doubtful.

P.S. Did you read the PM I sent you?

I just did. You're telling me that he's only speculating but can you point out anywhere that I said he wasn't? You don't even know the content of what I'm talking about that he posted, you're making assumptions that it was something explicit and concrete. Fun fact: I didn't mention Level in the post where I said he had a lacerated spleen; This is because Level never said he had a lacerated spleen and I never meant to imply that he did. I even said that nobody has said for sure that he is out for the rest of the season.

I myself was simply saying I don't expect him back, even though I realize that he ultimately could be, then you start talking about injury reports and players dressing out. Fact is that he was NEVER going to play against TCU no matter what the injury report said or what you think him travelling with the team meant. They're going to call him day to day and say he has a chance to play even if there is no chance because you need to have the other team gameplan for him.
 
It's funny to me Manti Te'o is getting all this Heisman talk. His numbers are very pedestrian, I feel like the media is like "well ND is undefeated, we need someone from them to be a heisman contender."

Only 69 tackles, 2.5 tfl, no sacks, and 4 ints (2 of which came against Duhnard), and 0 forced fumbles.

They're decent numbers, but not Heisman numbers.

Here's CJ Mosley's, Alabama's Best LB, numbers:
58 tackles, 3.5 tfl, 2 sacks, 2 INT's (1 TD), 1 FF, 1 FR

He isn't (and shouldn't) be mentioned for Heisman.
It's why there's all those defensive player awards, though. I figure they'll get some of those.
 
Reverse jinxing didn't work for Gloom last week and I hope it doesn't work for you this week.

I think an FSU loss is way more possible than some are giving credit. I mean, this year's Duke team is just as good or better than some of the shit Maryland or NC State teams we have lost to in the past decade.

FSU will win by 30+ IMO. There is obviously the talent disparity but there is also the mental edge. The intimidation factor is too substantial.
 
Fla-GAF. I'd love to go to the Florida Georgia game, but I don't have infinite riches for tickets. Can I just find some on the sidewalk somewhere, Pokemon style?
 
Fla-GAF. I'd love to go to the Florida Georgia game, but I don't have infinite riches for tickets. Can I just find some on the sidewalk somewhere, Pokemon style?

Hahaha.

In all honesty, if you ever just show up to a game, you can almost always get a pretty good price on tickets -- certainly less than you'd pay anywhere that didn't involve getting them at face value. I'd expect you could get one easily for $100 or less outside the stadium (you'd probably want to do some research to figure out the section breakdown for the teams).
 
Fla-GAF. I'd love to go to the Florida Georgia game, but I don't have infinite riches for tickets. Can I just find some on the sidewalk somewhere, Pokemon style?

Good luck. Prices are shockingly not that bad on Stubhub. Pretty much face value for upper level seats. Anything decent is pretty steep though.
 
Can your team please not fuck up?

Let me call up Jarvis Jones and see if he plans on killing Driscoll this week, hold up.

Well we're not favored, so it'd be more shocking if we did win. You may have noticed that I picked against Georgia. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we win. Hoping Shawn Williams's rant to the media stirred up our defense to play lights out finally instead of going through the motions. If our defense plays to their potential, we win. Our offense is much better than Florida's.
 
Fla-GAF. I'd love to go to the Florida Georgia game, but I don't have infinite riches for tickets. Can I just find some on the sidewalk somewhere, Pokemon style?

Expect to pay $100-$140 to get in before kickoff. If you wait until after the first quarter, you can probably snag a ticket for $80.

And those will all be upper-bowl seats. Want great seats? Add $100 to the above
 
Expect to pay $100-$140 to get in before kickoff. If you wait until after the first quarter, you can probably snag a ticket for $80.

And those will all be upper-bowl seats. Want great seats? Add $100 to the above

Upper level seats are like $80 now on Stubhub. I'm actually shocked at that. Lower level seats start about double that. Some end zone seats are at $400, 50 yard line at about 300.
 
shit, $80 is reaching Alabama/Western Carolina value.

It is pretty shocking. Granted, I hate sitting in upper levels and that would be my last choice.

In other ticket news, GA Tech couldn't sell all of their visitor tickets, so 1,900 of the 8,000 they got are being returned and sold to UGA alumni today, and then opened up to general public. May already be opened, not sure of the times on that.
 
(FRI) Cincinnati @ Louisville by 4
Iowa @ Northwestern by 10
NC State @ North Carolina by 4
UCLA @ Arizona State by 7
Florida vs. Georgia by 7
Texas Tech @ Kansas State by 7
USC @ Arizona by 18
Michigan State @ Wisconsin by 4
TCU @ Oklahoma State by 10
Ohio State @ Penn State by 12
Notre Dame @ Oklahoma by 4
Michigan @ Nebraska by 7
Mississippi State @ Alabama by 20
California @ Utah by 4
Oregon State @ Washington by 9
 
Let me call up Jarvis Jones and see if he plans on killing Driscoll this week, hold up.

Well we're not favored, so it'd be more shocking if we did win. You may have noticed that I picked against Georgia. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we win. Hoping Shawn Williams's rant to the media stirred up our defense to play lights out finally instead of going through the motions. If our defense plays to their potential, we win. Our offense is much better than Florida's.

Lets see...You are UGA, It's your biggest game of the season and could shed the monkey on your back against a team that has owned you for 20 years now.

We know how this goes, Murray will throw 4 picks and your defense will play like a Big12 team.
 
They can't all be first round picks like Kyle Boller and that guy from those State Farm commercials.

Right?

I wanna know what the hell happened to Tedford. He used to just crank out these QBs that were great in college and then sucked in the pros. And then, when he finally produced one that was actually good in the pros... wait a minute.
 
Upper level seats are like $80 now on Stubhub. I'm actually shocked at that.

On Stubhub? Yes, that is shocking, indeed. Such a worthless site. Overpriced every time I go there.



It is pretty shocking. Granted, I hate sitting in upper levels and that would be my last choice.

Yeah, my seats for the Miami game were upper-bowl, and it was horrible.

OK, not horrible because seeing football in-person is always great, but I really wish I had binoculars. Never again. Those $9 beers did not make up for the bad seats
 
On Stubhub? Yes, that is shocking, indeed. Such a worthless site. Overpriced every time I go there.





Yeah, my seats for the Miami game were upper-bowl, and it was horrible.

OK, not horrible because seeing football in-person is always great, but I really wish I had binoculars. Never again. Those $9 beers did not make up for the bad seats

Eh at least you can get beer at your games, we're a dry campus so technically cant drink at tailgates. Luckily the cops really dont give a shit if you pour it in a cup and arent being an ass.
 
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