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[Phoenician_Viking]

In all, 51% of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48% in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56%, up from 49% during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

SMH. I thought when Obama became president, the relationship between white and blacks in the US will get much better for the majority of the population. It got worse. Come on America, stop this already.

 

[Data West]

Quit being racist,white people.

I thought everyone should stop being racist. Certainly would help all over the world.

 

[KevinRo]

What a dumbass story. Just race baiting. Look at this scientific research:

The explicit racism measures asked respondents whether they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements about black and Hispanic people. In addition, the surveys asked how well respondents thought certain words, such as "friendly," ''hardworking," ''violent" and "lazy," described blacks, whites and Hispanics.

The same respondents were also administered a survey designed to measure implicit racism, in which a photo of a black, Hispanic or white male flashed on the screen before a neutral image of a Chinese character. The respondents were then asked to rate their feelings toward the Chinese character. Previous research has shown that people transfer their feelings about the photo onto the character, allowing researchers to measure racist feelings even if a respondent does not acknowledge them.

Results from those questions were analyzed with poll takers' ages, partisan beliefs, views on Obama and Romney and other factors, which allowed researchers to predict the likelihood that people would vote for either Obama or Romney. Those models were then used to estimate the net impact of each factor on the candidates' support.

All the surveys were conducted online. Other research has shown that poll takers are more likely to share unpopular attitudes when they are filling out a survey using a computer rather than speaking with an interviewer. Respondents were randomly selected from a nationally representative panel maintained by a.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

If you guys want to take an Implicit (Racism) Association Test, click here https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/featuredtask.html

What a weird test

Your data suggest a moderate implicit preference for famous White people compared to famous Black people.

But I hate Barbara Streisand, Mel Gibson and I love Jazz. It just got annoying towards the end to have to keep switching between white/good and black/good during their little Brain Age minigame :/

 

[Kad5]

Not know any Persians?

As a persian I haven't experienced any prejudice like a black person might. The closest thing is idiotic kids from middle and high school saying ignorant shit to me.

 

[Angry Grimace]

SMH. I thought when Obama became president, the relationship between white and blacks in the US will get much better for the majority of the population. It got worse. Come on America, stop this already.

The economy didn't instantly improve.

 

[teruterubozu]

SMH. I thought when Obama became president, the relationship between white and blacks in the US will get much better for the majority of the population. It got worse. Come on America, stop this already.

Why would it magically get better?

 

[DCharlie]

stopped after it asked me questions like "is Romney too rich to care for common people

it seems the key is that every white person thinks that they have this chance to be super rich and , as a result - regardless of current wealth, make sure they vote for whoever represents where they'll be in <fantasy> years time.

 

[Data West]

As a persian I haven't experienced any prejudice like a black person might. The closest thing is idiotic kids from middle and high school saying ignorant shit to me.

I suppose it depends on where you live.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

From the reactions in this thread i guess my attitude was naive. I have read all kind of stories about people being racist and shit but i thought they were in the minority. I guess not living in the US makes me not know the reality on the ground.

The economy didn't instantly improve.

That´s true, but what´s a president´s race has to do with it?

Why would it magically get better?

Well, Americans elected the first black president. That should have shown that the relationship between blacks and white have gotten much better. I did not say magically, but i thought people would be more tolerant now than they use to.

 

[that1dude24]

What a dumbass story. Just race baiting. Look at this scientific research:

i'm looking at it. what, exactly, is wrong with it?
associating charged terms with racial groups is a form of latent racism. if there is research supporting the race flash following a neutral character (which doesn't strike me as unbelievable), it certainly could measure bias they aren't willing to admit.

 

[Cyan]

What a dumbass story. Just race baiting. Look at this scientific research:

What's the problem with it? That doesn't seem enormously different from other research in cog sci that I've seen.

 

[zero_suit]

From the reactions in this thread i guess my attitude was naive. I have read all kind of stories about people being racist and shit but i thought they were in the minority. I guess not living in the US makes me not know the reality on the ground.

No, it's just more subtle now.

 

[Grakl]

Well, Americans elected the first black president. That should have shown that the relationship between blacks and white have gotten much better. I did not say magically, but i thought people would be more tolerant now than they use to.

No, it just means that more people on the left came out and voted. Those people are generally less racist, and fine with a black president. It also meant, over the past four years, that the more moderate and more right populace have more reason to vent their racism, which already existed.

 

[pigeon]

Well, Americans elected the first black president. That should have shown that the relationship between blacks and white have gotten much better. I did not say magically, but i thought people would be more tolerant now than they use to.

"Tolerance" is something you have for something you don't much like but don't think will affect your life much.

A black man getting elected President told a bunch of Americans that people of color are indeed going to affect their life. A lot.

You see the results.

 

[Mumei]

I would like more info on exactly what questions/answer combinations would be considered "prejudice" before I take this seriously. Read several articles on this and they are suspiciously short on details.

(not saying it doesn't exist....that number just seems too high)

It shouldn't seem too high, particularly the implicit numbers. I don't remember the exact results, but a slight or moderate prejudice against black people is the norm in that implicit bias test that Grakl linked to.

TBH. Racism Racially motivated prejudice isn't limited to white people.

It is true that prejudice studies show black people can display anti-white prejudice, but it is also true that black people are almost as likely as white people to believe anti-black stereotypes and less likely to be anti-white than white people are to be anti-black.

I wouldn't argue for any sort of equivalencies here.

I stopped after it asked me questions like "is Romney too rich to care for common people". How does that test me, a non-US citizen about racism, let alone my opinions on mormons.

Wut.

That is not a part of any of the implicit tests. The implicit tests do not actually ask you about your explicit attitudes; you must have been at a point before you actually got to the actual implicit tests (e.g. just asking your explicit attitudes).

 

[Karsticles]

That was almost the very end of the test, and didn't have bearing on the results. It's to understand your place on the political spectrum compared to how implicitly/explicitly racist you are.

Explicit racism. The actual test is only determined by the picture/good words portion. I agree that everything else really is extraneous.

Yeah, the word association part is even worse. Here are several issues that aren't being considered that I consciously recognize as affecting the buttons I pushed:
1) Not knowing who some of these people are - I guessed a button.
2) When two things are very similar, I tend to mix them up a lot unless I think about it. So sometimes I would see a "black name" during a "white portion" of the test and push the wrong button, or vice versa. Mixing the task up inherently made me mix up my inputs, it didn't make my inputs "objective". And this is clearly not a race issue because I got so mixed up once that I marked "good" for the word "terrible".
3) I got frustrated with the test and started to go faster, which led to me making more mistakes (of both races, I just wanted to get the test over with when it kept looping).
4) The way I feel about a lot of these names has nothing to do with their race. I'm white, and I'm neutral toward my own race, but I hate Barbara Streisand. I love Bill Cosby.

What a weird test

But I hate Barbara Streisand, Mel Gibson and I love Jazz. It just got annoying towards the end to have to keep switching between white/good and black/good during their little Brain Age minigame :/

Oh right, and Mel Gibson creeps me out.

Best question:
"Who are you going to vote for, Obama or Romney?" - thanks for only listing two, and not giving me any option to say "someone else".

 

[mugurumakensei]

If you guys want to take an Implicit (Racism) Association Test, click here https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/featuredtask.html

Your data suggest a moderately stronger implicit association between Obama and American compared to that between Romney and American.

Test is accurate about my beliefs.

 

[eudaemonic]

I don't know. There were famous people on tv telling me we don't have a race problem anymore.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Test is accurate about my beliefs.

Sounds racist to me.

 

[Moral Panic]

Overall results from each survey have a margin of sampling error of approximately plus or minus 4 percentage points.

So basically no change. Still bad though.

 

[pigeon]

Yeah, the word association part is even worse. Here are several issues that aren't being considered that I consciously recognize as affecting the buttons I pushed:
1) Not knowing who some of these people are - I guessed a button.
2) When two things are very similar, I tend to mix them up a lot unless I think about it. So sometimes I would see a "black name" during a "white portion" of the test and push the wrong button, or vice versa. Mixing the task up inherently made me mix up my inputs, it didn't make my inputs "objective". And this is clearly not a race issue because I got so mixed up once that I marked "good" for the word "terrible".
3) I got frustrated with the test and started to go faster, which led to me making more mistakes (of both races, I just wanted to get the test over with when it kept looping).
4) The way I feel about a lot of these names has nothing to do with their race. I'm white, and I'm neutral toward my own race, but I hate Barbara Streisand. I love Bill Cosby.


Oh right, and Mel Gibson creeps me out.

Best question:
"Who are you going to vote for, Obama or Romney?" - thanks for only listing two, and not giving me any option to say "someone else".

How did you click on the same link I did and get a test that was totally different? I didn't have any names, and I did have the option to vote for somebody else.

 

[Kusagari]

Are these word association tests proven to be good for studies?

Because I've always found them to be the dumbest tests there are. They're so easy to fuck up on.

 

[Kabouter]

If you guys want to take an Implicit (Racism) Association Test, click here https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/featuredtask.html

Your data suggest a slightly stronger implicit association between Obama and American compared to that between Romney and American.

Not American myself, so I guess it might be due to the fact that for four years, Obama has been the face of America to me in the news etc.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Sounds racist to me.

No, I just don't believe wealthy rich men who complain about taxes while being at a lower tax bracket due to most of their money coming in from capital gains are all that American.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

The explicit racism measures asked respondents whether they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements about black and Hispanic people. In addition, the surveys asked how well respondents thought certain words, such as "friendly," ''hardworking," ''violent" and "lazy," described blacks, whites and Hispanics.

The same respondents were also administered a survey designed to measure implicit racism, in which a photo of a black, Hispanic or white male flashed on the screen before a neutral image of a Chinese character. The respondents were then asked to rate their feelings toward the Chinese character. Previous research has shown that people transfer their feelings about the photo onto the character, allowing researchers to measure racist feelings even if a respondent does not acknowledge them.

All the surveys were conducted online. Other research has shown that poll takers are more likely to share unpopular attitudes when they are filling out a survey using a computer rather than speaking with an interviewer. Respondents were randomly selected from a nationally representative panel maintained by GfK Custom Research.

Overall results from each survey have a margin of sampling error of approximately plus or minus 4 percentage points. The most recent poll, measuring anti-black views, was conducted Aug. 30 to Sept. 11.

Was wondering what metrics they were using. Seems reasonable enough as a fairly popular method for measuring these sorts of things. I wonder how many were surveyed, though.

 

[Grakl]

Yeah, the word association part is even worse. Here are several issues that aren't being considered that I consciously recognize as affecting the buttons I pushed:
1) Not knowing who some of these people are - I guessed a button.
2) When two things are very similar, I tend to mix them up a lot unless I think about it. So sometimes I would see a "black name" during a "white portion" of the test and push the wrong button, or vice versa. Mixing the task up inherently made me mix up my inputs, it didn't make my inputs "objective". And this is clearly not a race issue because I got so mixed up once that I marked "good" for the word "terrible".
3) I got frustrated with the test and started to go faster, which led to me making more mistakes (of both races, I just wanted to get the test over with when it kept looping).
4) The way I feel about a lot of these names has nothing to do with their race. I'm white, and I'm neutral toward my own race, but I hate Barbara Streisand. I love Bill Cosby.

I didn't even get this portion of the test. I suppose there are different types, because I also didn't get the result that some are you are talking about (mine was specifically about implicit and explicit racism, and if I preferred white to black people, not about celebrities or Obama/Romney). Your test was different from mine.

How did you click on the same link I did and get a test that was totally different? I didn't have any names, and I did have the option to vote for somebody else.

Me either.

 

[Nameless]

We really do have the worst free press in the world.

 

[cousins]

1. That number is too low
2. People that aren't white already know this

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

No, I just don't believe wealthy rich men who complain about taxes while being at a lower tax bracket due to most of their money coming in from capital gains are all that American.

I'm American and that describes me perfectly.

 

[maxxpower]

There goes my chance of having a white girlfriend.

 

[LuchaShaq]

EDIT: Can somebody answer this, don't we have a higher percentage of blacks+hispanics today than we did during the last poll? So, wouldn't that mean that Whites that weren't racialy biased now are?

You underestimate how many people who never felt comfortable admitting/expressing their racist feelings until Obama became a candidate.

 

[cousins]

You underestimate how many people who never felt comfortable admitting/expressing their racist feelings until Obama became a candidate.

Yeah, Obama really brought out the worst in people. Even I'm surprised sometimes on how blatant shit's getting. We need to revert back to those mid 2000s levels of racism.

 

[ivysaur12]

Hey, remember that time that Ann Coulter said racism ended in 1964?

 

[Kad5]

I suppose it depends on where you live.

Well I grew up in a northern Atlanta suburb that is extremely republican/conservative as fuck. But to be honest when people look at me they don't really know what the fuck I am.

Interestingly enough black people think i'm white and white people think i'm brown and other brown people will either say im white or brown.

So im really just not accepted by anybody except people who are familiar with an islamic background and even then i'm still really my own thing being Iranian and all.

But it's not an actual issue because I have a very diverse group of friends. I'll hang out with anyone as long as I like them I don't care how people look.

 

[Grakl]

Hey, remember that time that Ann Coulter said racism ended in 1964?

I still want to believe that she's like her character in The Boondocks.

 

[cousins]

Hey, remember that time that Ann Coulter said racism ended in 1964?

did she really?

 

[KidGalactus]

I'm American and that describes me perfectly.

Now I'm sure you're a troll.

There goes my chance of having a white girlfriend.

It's not just white people. It's over half of all Americans. I'm sure there are members of every group in there, even blacks.

I still want to believe that she's like her character in the Boondocks.

I've always suspected that episode was a reference to this - http://www.switched.com/2007/10/16/ann-coulters-website-hacked/

 

[Grakl]

Now I'm sure you're a troll.

No, he's Bilbo.

 

[bjork]

That survey thing is pretty whack. It's asking me about politics when I don't pay attention to politics. It should've been like "do you like ascots?" "what about cool sneakers?"

 

[pigeon]

It's not just white people. It's over half of all Americans. I'm sure there are members of every group in there, even blacks.

This is really worth emphasizing. Racism isn't a thing that only white people do, it's a thing that people of color internalize as well. It'd be pretty easy to link to prominent African-American celebrities expressing what are basically racist attitudes about black people, because guess what, that's part of the deal you make to become a prominent African-American celebrity. Let's not put it all on white people. They're not the only racists, they're just the ones that benefit the most from racism.

 

[Kusagari]

I find it curious how the Hispanic and Black numbers are almost exactly the same.

 

[jon bones]

we get it bulbo, you're republican

2. People that aren't white already know this

ding ding ding

 

[shadyspace]

But who hate black people more koreans or white people

 

[Dorpheus]

51% is insanely high. It's incredibly easy for me to forget how much more racist other parts of the country are. I mean, Los Angeles has it's fair share of racists, but I would never have guessed as high as 51%.

I'd love to see the polling data in full, as it would be interesting to get a clearer picture of racial relations in the US.

 

[Karsticles]

There goes my chance of having a white girlfriend.

Lots of white women find black men attractive. IIRC, interracial breeding is on the incline, which is a good thing.

 

[Moral Panic]

If you guys want to take an Implicit (Racism) Association Test, click here https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/featuredtask.html

Your results are reported below:

Your data suggest little to no difference in implicit preference between famous Black and White people.


YES!!!!

 

[Wafflecakes]

It shouldn't seem too high, particularly the implicit numbers. I don't remember the exact results, but a slight or moderate prejudice against black people is the norm in that implicit bias test that Grakl linked to.



It is true that prejudice studies show black people can display anti-white prejudice, but it is also true that black people are almost as likely as white people to believe anti-black stereotypes and less likely to be anti-white than white people are to be anti-black.

I wouldn't argue for any sort of equivalencies here.



That is not a part of any of the implicit tests. The implicit tests do not actually ask you about your explicit attitudes; you must have been at a point before you actually got to the actual implicit tests (e.g. just asking your explicit attitudes).

Its not that the number are too high....but that they claim that they went up. Which is a huge warning flag for me.

As to the racism thing, or "racial prejudice", I was more referring to minorities being prejudiced against each other. I think that is very common.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Lots of white women find black men attractive. IIRC, interracial breeding is on the incline, which is a good thing.

I breed on an incline.

 

[Arooguy]

I am so tired of the racism in this country, it's unnecessary. I deal with people making ignorant, racist comments on nearly a daily basis and I get into arguments because of how ridiculous people sound.