AP poll: U.S. majority have prejudice against blacks.

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Vaporak said:
I see the idea behind the implicit test, but you don't have to get results not matching your conscious beliefs to think there might be problems with the test. I just took it and got: but I still think there could be problems with the test. For example, first impressions are important and the test seemed to first train the test taker to associate good and white names. I'd like to see what the results would be for a randomized starting conditions instead compared to the result they are getting now.
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It is randomized. I had the opposite when I took it.

Mammoth Jones said:
*Is currently listening to Shine by Collective Soul*

Son...of....a......
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I only know because I'm currently bumping some Eagles.
 
thesoapster said:
I took the test three times, each time a few months apart. Each result was different. On one I showed no preference, another I preferred white people, and another I preferred black people. (I'm white.)

I think the test has some potential for error with the order in which things are done because of pattern recognition. That or I hate on groups of people in some sort of bizarre cycle.
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I think you're absolutely right, it's unlikely a single run on a single test could tell you about someone's preferences to an exactly measureable mark.

However, that doesn't explain why the overall results for many people over a large number of tests come down on one side of the scale and not the other. If it's random error, it should be evenly distributed.
 
People are racist. We get a melting pot at my restaurant and this is what I've noticed. Black people typically don't like Mexicans and vice versa. White people try and look down on both of them. About 1 out of 5 issues with a black person end in accusations of the business or some employee being racist (we aren't). Mexicans never accuse us of being racist (just the typical stuff like rude or unfair). All in all I doubt it changes voting too much, a liberal will vote liberal a conservative will vote conservative.

People don't like each other. We aren't a happy society right now, that's pretty obvious to me.
 
gatti-man said:
People are racist. We get a melting pot at my restaurant and this is what I've noticed. Black people typically don't like Mexicans and vice versa. White people try and look down on both of them. About 1 out of 5 issues with a black person end in accusations of the business or some employee being racist (we aren't). Mexicans never accuse us of being racist (just the typical stuff like rude or unfair). All in all I doubt it changes voting too much, a liberal will vote liberal a conservative will vote conservative.

People don't like each other. We aren't a happy society right now, that's pretty obvious to me.
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How much of that is based on confirmation-bias? Basically, don't you think there is some room for error because it is likely that black customer complaints stick out in your head more than white customers since you've taken the view that black customers complain more. We often come to a conclusion and then search for the evidence to prove that conclusion to be true.
 
IHaveCandy said:
How much of that is based on confirmation-bias? Basically, don't you think there is some room for error because it is likely that black customer complaints stick out in your head more than white customers since you've taken the view that black customers complain more. We often come to a conclusion and then search for the evidence to prove that conclusion to be true.
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I never said black customers complain more. They don't afaik. I've been called cracker more than I care to count though. Pretty hard to offer my opinion on white groups feeling racism since I am white myself. I also don't remember black complaints more than any other. I don't get that many so I tend to remember them all.
 
Korey said:
Wow, this test is awesome, and really made me think about my own subconscious opinions about things. I thought the way they did the test was really clever too and have no doubt it's effective in determining biases.

I recommend everyone take it.
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turns out I'm a homophobe. sorry gay brethren. I promise not to post in the thread again.
 
genjiZERO said:
edit: Do you mean racism directed towards Persian? If so, I've never experienced racism to the face of my Persian friends. And I've also never really heard anyone say racists things about Persians (that weren't in jest) in general. I hear xenophobic comments directed towards Muslims, but that's a different question. I'd say Muslims are number 2 on the brunt of bigotry list in my personal experience.
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One of my first acts as a supervisor was to fire some guy who pulled the headscarf off of one of my people after a diversity meeting. He was a high-flier (i.e. executive potential). She was a mid-ranked performer. She was always very good at her job, but we're run by white engineers and it's just hard for anyone who doesn't fit the type to get ahead. His dad was an executive, but he couldn't protect his little shit son after doing something so blatant and so public. Executive dad also pulled a few things in his years that suddenly came to light and he opted to retire early.

This woman is now my best friend. She was included in a few internal videos around culture and what that brings to the table. She is now, rightfully, a high-flier. She is my equivalent in rank and will probably be the boss of me in a couple of years.
 
I'm a white guy in the south and I'm not surprised at all by this statistic. Most who do hold racist sentiments are smart enough not to blurt them out definitively but when people think no one who might care is listening some terrible shit comes from their mouths.
 
Parch said:
What percentage of blacks would be considered prejudice against whites, mexicans, and asians?
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For this test did they only test white people?
If so, why?

Also did they verify the ethnicity and gender of those who took that test (I hope they did otherwise the result would be utter garbage)
 
Mumei said:
When I last took the test around 2009, I displayed a slight implicit bias towards European American faces. I don't hold explicitly prejudiced beliefs. While there is some connection between implicit prejudices and explicitly held attitudes and opinion formation (see the post IHaveCandy replied to), but it isn't necessarily the case as it is possible to be aware of one's implicit biases and reject them or for explicit values to be stronger, I guess.

But it isn't saying you're a sekrit racest.
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Honestly? I feel I scored highest with blacks and asians because they have the most distinct faces compared to the other two. I get that the test was designed to have me associating the faces with good words, and lumping them together in a group. But I felt like I went on a case-by-case basis.
 
I tried this test a while back actually and got bored halfway through
Not sure how I would have scored because to me all the white faces where ugly.
I also tend to make assumptions based on face so to me a face "type" is far more important than face color.

In any case the jury on the validity of this test is still very much out so I think that agonized soul searching and finger pointing is a bit premature at this point
 
So just taking a guess here but if they did a survey on and the majority of the black/hispanic population were prejudiced against white people - would that be surprising?
 
Seanspeed said:
Living in suburbia myself, I can assure you that there's an overwhelming majority of white kids at rock shows(more than can be accounted for by the general population) and that hiphop is still more often the favored music type for black kids.

And its hard to seperate 'where' somebody grows up from the racial makeup of that area.


I've already explained why. Its a test more of pattern recognition and memorization. I was actually getting better at it as I went along and my mistakes had nothing to do with any subconscious choices since I knew exactly what lead to any mistakes or slowdowns I had. The completely wrong results at the end cemented the idea that its totally inaccurate.
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This isn't really true, the biggest hip hop artists concerts will be predominately white. White (females in particular) buy music in much larger quantities than any other demographic group in the US. By extension they also attend the most concerts. Blacks are not the biggest revenue stream for artists. What you're describing is mostly location, the artist might be in a location in which the urban area will be attracted to the concert in doves, but in major major cities yea white concert goers dominate
 
Korey said:
Wow, this test is awesome, and really made me think about my own subconscious opinions about things. I thought the way they did the test was really clever too and have no doubt it's effective in determining biases.

I recommend everyone take it.
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I'm not sure how awesome this test is. I just took it. I am white, liberal, atheist, and was raised in a conservative household. Black people were my most positive group by a large margin, Followed by asians whites and hispanics in that order. I have absolutely no clue why, but I think my identification time for blacks was a lot faster as I did not have to read the name to identify the ethnicity and I could instantly tell from the colour of the skin.
 
What did you think would happen when the media kept on bombarding their audiences with vilification of minorities and blacks as the ones who are in line Obama's "socialist" programs (especially in recent times).
 
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