I imagine usage stats told them something under 2% of users used it and it got cut swiftly. Disappointing, but I can see why it'd be out-prioritized.
Halo 4: Review Thread
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They say ignorance is bliss, but you don't seem too happy :/
Barrow Roll
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Have you ever actually tried before poopooing the idea? Yes, completing The Ark without setting foot in a vehicle IS fun. Just the other day I played Swordbase without setting foot in a vehicle and it was fun. It's an alternative way to play out different encounters for added challenge. That's the beauty of Halo campaigns, you can tackle each encounter any way you want. Don't want to walk across large stretches of land? Then grab a Mongoose!
Dax, come post some of your Ark on-foot screenshots, pronto.
Randolph Freelander
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I specifically mentioned AOTCR and TTB as the non point-A to point-B vehicle sections, but even then, they didn't make up a majority of those missions. Halo, you're driving the warthog, sort of just tooling around. That's it. You might have a gunner, but he doesn't tend to survive very long on higher difficulty. Then it's just you and the wheel. Silent Cartographer, same thing. Then you fly off in a banshee at the end of Keyes. The rest of the game is on foot. Edit: GLARING omission of the trench run at the end. Still, Warthog. Just driving. Frantically.
This.
SomeOneInaHat
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Its a great soundtrack, its just different. On a personal level I feel Marty's experience writing commercial jingles gives his OST an edge because it gives me urges to whistle the tune.
Vehicles in Halo works when you're in an actual open environment and driving a Warthog feels like you've gained an advantage in land traversal. It's true, after Halo 1 vehicle sections feel very linear. If I have to drive on some fucking future highway again I'll barf.Under what grounds? How can an object in a sandbox environment be considered over saturated? They are means of fast travel from point A to point B in an optional sense to pick up the pacing from an encounter to encounter bases. Vehicles add layered depth to a combat scenario when mixed ground, air, and foot. Not to mention that the sense of feedback and responsiveness in control are juxtaposed to their physics based nature which adds to the possibility of "fun Halo moments" of flipping vehicals and collateral damage. Halo would be a shell of an experience without vehiclas.
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No, there's a section before that, it's the same area as one of the Invasion maps. You have a little shack with some DMR ammo and it's like you're facing off against the entire remainder of the Covenant ground troops on Reach.
H2 was cheap and unfun. That first mission was one of the hardest. But after that you have to face sniper alleys, which are nothing but stop and pop roadblocks that lead to a lot of unfair deaths.
XtremeXpider
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Theater mode is in multiplayer.
Jake Tower
Banned
The ship junkyard?
I only ever used to take cool screenshots, besides that, I never touched it.
Vire
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Uno hour actually. 2 AM EST right now.
SomeOneInaHat
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You can drive ghosts or the occasional tank then. Last time I checked tanks beat everything and ghosts ram everything. The chopper, oh the chopper, it was a motorcycle with blades and duel mounted guns. Splattering people in all of these vehicles will remain super satisfying, to me, and its super strange when someone poos the idea of these optional "sections" of the game
Huh? Tsavo Highway, The Ark and The Covenant From 3 had huge open spaces for verhicles. Reach big sections were Winter Contingency and ONI: Sword Base. Reach was also the only Halo with forced linear vehicle sections.
I used it a bit, but it's the Spartan Ops omission that bites even harder, IMO. I'm an enthusiast of Firefight, and took scores of pics and videos from that mode to share with the community and for my own. I think it's pretty unfortunate that 343 built Spartan Ops with the stated goal of creating great co-op experiences, and then removed the ability to review, save or share those experiences.
Halo 2 had that awful Flood section as the Arbiter, and good luck getting through there without a vehicle.
Jake Tower
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It was a fairly large area, that tended to make it easier, in my opinion.
The hardest part for me (that I remember) on Legendary solo was on board the Covenant ship, on the way back from the control room, that little hallway with like four super elite elites. I was stuck with a shitty weapon.
Demoncarnotaur
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Ok, I watched it.. That guy playing was making a ton of frustrating choices, damn... But my god, that looks like it will be a blast with 3 others. It looked like it was fun to do solo also, but just not the way he played it haha.
So a few things:
-Grunts jump now?
-Wraith splash damage seems pretty low
-Halo 4 definitely has a glitch with sound where things just do not make noise when they should.
I really hope they talk about why it was cut.. Im really going to miss it, so many cool things to do with that mode. Im especially sad now that we have an entire new race and sandbox to take pictures of. I really can't believe it didn't at least make the cut for SpOps.. It must have been a technical hurdle they didn't have tome to tackle or something.
Interesting. That was the case at PAX as well, often things like a Gauss Hog tagging you would just result in your Spartan crumpling up, silently. I figured it was a late glitch, to be fixed.
That's Long Night of Solace I think. Loved that whole mission on Legendary. I'm not sure why, but I've always enjoyed the Covenant ship levels throughout the series. Even in H2, those were practically the only ones I enjoyed. I don't know if it's the setting or the combat or what.
Yeah, Halo 2 still was more open in the vehicle sections then Reach. At least no control was taken away from you.
Oh yeah, I forgot those parts in Reach. I thought they were... okay. Not exactly a high point, but inoffensive. Wouldn't miss them if they were gone.
Randolph Freelander
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Perhaps if I ever replay those Halos, I'll see if it's enjoyable to skip the vehicles where possible. I doubt I replay any of them, though. I've played through Halo 2 a few times, have never liked those sections. I've played 3 maybe three times, I think. ODST and Reach were just single playthroughs, did not like those games at all.
In multiplayer, I'll basically never get in a vehicle. I take that back, if I'm playing against a friend, and usually in person and not online, we would go to blood gulch and get in warthogs and play chicken for a bit. But it has been years since we've done that. In regular online multiplayer? No way. Hate them, won't use them, won't ride in them. I think they're cheap and unfair and won't participate in that nonsense. (But then, I hold the same beliefs about swords, lasers, hammers, needlers, etc. Won't use them. I don't think it's fun when they are used on me, so I won't use them on anybody else.)
Demoncarnotaur
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Yeah I have noticed it in every gameplay video put out recently, including the stream. I did notice it back from the different show footage like PAX and I will say it did seem worse there, but there are numerous times where sounds just do not seem to happen still. I really hope it isn't as noticeable or frequent when actually playing the game.
There has to be a real reason for this though? Right?
so people couldnt record the co-op input lag and show it to their friends
The Xtortionist
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Has 343 talked about this for Halo 4? The lag was horrible in Halo 3/Reach. Shit felt like I was on an ice rink without skates on.
I've read two theories. The first is they simply broke it by updating the game engine to the point where it was incompatible with Theater, and didn't resource getting it fixed. We have signs that the game came right down to the wire, it could have been a casualty that way.
The other is the new graphics or game engine just cheats too much and they didn't want people to see it. I thought it was rather brave of Bungie to let everyone poke around with Theater; most of the time it impressed but it pulls the curtain back a bit on what's happening just off screen. Perhaps 343's new engine keeps its facade a lot closer to the player and it got ugly real quick when players broke out with the free camera.
Between the two, the first is what I think is most likely. They updated the tech, and didn't value Theater enough to resource bringing it along for the ride. Damn shame.
Would like to have someone from 343 address it.
Nope, not a bit. I'm pretty nervous about the co-op input lag. Firefight in Reach was not good most of the time unless you had host.
When you play online and see a sword you don't pick it up? Something is obviously wrong with you.
LowParry
Member
Why are you even playing? :lol
polyh3dron
Banned
How is this thread already 5 pages long and we still have 20 minutes before reviews come out?
Baconsammy
Banned
Halo
Jake Tower
Banned
I'm only here to see people freaking out about scores of a game they are going to buy anyways. Maybe it ends up being as funny as that Uncharted 3 review thread.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FUCK.. there is now snot drooling over my chin because of this image.
man poor Keighley.
OdysseusVA
Banned
YES!
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Seriously lol'ing over that keighley pic.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
SILENCE!
That should be someones avatar.
ChimpBottle
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When and why did Geoff Keighley become associated with Halo Doritos and Dew?
polyh3dron
Banned
it wouldn't work, the dorito hat is too tall