Wii U back in stock at GameStop

Andrex i know there were some guys on neogaf that wanted vita to be exciting but realistically psp was a nonfactor in usa and psv had nothing to make the situation better

In japan they survived on monsterhunter only but that one switched to ds early in the game

If nintendo moneyhatted capcom, which they probably did, that was probably to make psvita fail but the price drop and the ambassador programm? I kinda doubt it
 
Yes, because those reactions were limited to GAF. Surely. Strawmen are usually dumb but not this dumb, come on, put some effort into it.

Regardless this doesn't have anything to do with what I originally said, which is I hope that Nintendo gets put into panic mode like they were with 3DS last year.

I'm sorry I'm posted something bad about a company neither of us likely has any actual connection to except buying their products, and I'm sorry for wanting those products to get drastically better. I'm sorry my standards aren't as low as yours.

So much truth.

and wow i didn't know standards could get lower than yours.
 
There's no point in putting effort in responding to you. It late, and your points are stupid. Calling a spade a spade. Lets be real here.

A fucking multibillion dollar company is monitoring internet message boards across the intertubes for reactions of the vita unveiling, got spooked, and decided to drop the price. That sounds stupid. Because it is stupid. Nintendo dropped the price of the 3DS because it sales were sluggish, NOT because of the vita. This is fact.

it's not far fetched in today's social media focused society.
 
Andrex i know there were some guys on neogaf that wanted vita to be exciting but realistically psp was a nonfactor in usa and psv had nothing to make the situation better

In japan they survived on monsterhunter only but that one switched to ds early in the game

If nintendo moneyhatted capcom, which they probably did, that was probably to make psvita fail but the price drop and the ambassador programm? I kinda doubt it

I think you're close to the truth but it probably wasn't clear cut. Pricecut was probably mostly to help slow sales in addition to a bit of not wanting to be compared unfavorably to the same-price Vita. (They're also not mutually exclusive, momentum for 3DS would help stall out the Vita. Win-win.) Monster Hunter was definitely a move aimed completely at the Vita, and specifically the Japanese market.

There was a list of rumored games released in August of last year and of the eight games on that list, only "Monster Hunter P3rd HD for Vita launch" never came to pass. Considering it was right about everything else, in August of last year, MH was coming to Vita. August was also Nintendo panic mode time, and... Vita never got that MH game.

That's the Nintendo I want back. And if you're an actual gamer and not a mindless drone, that's the Nintendo you want back too.
 
Wait, surely that was to make the 3DS succeed rather than the Vita fail..?

Tbh nintendo would thrive in japan with pokemon, mariokart, animal crossing, dragon quest and mario platformers just fine like they did last gen. Monster hunter was the only multimillion seller for psp in japan (maybe even million seller?)
 
Tbh nintendo would thrive in japan with pokemon, mariokart, animal crossing, dragon quest and mario platformers just fine like they did last gen. Monster hunter was the only multimillion seller for psp in japan (maybe even million seller?)

Exactly, Nintendo didn't need Monster Hunter, but Sony did. Which makes it pretty funny Nintendo now has that series on total lockdown, like with Dragon Quest. But even with DQ, that series didn't help the PSP out any, whereas MH almost single-handedly revived the PSP in Japan.
 
finally held the wii u control for the first time and its huge! wish i had more time to spend with it but i had to do other things at the store. the monitor was also shut off and only the control was on.
 
Exactly, Nintendo didn't need Monster Hunter, but Sony did. Which makes it pretty funny Nintendo now has that series on total lockdown, like with Dragon Quest. But even with DQ, that series didn't help the PSP out any, whereas MH almost single-handedly revived the PSP in Japan.
Wasn't the only Dragon Quest game for the PSP Itadaki Street? Really, the series was only home on Sony systems from 1999 till 2006. All other times it was primarily on Nintendo systems.
 
Wait, surely that was to make the 3DS succeed rather than the Vita fail..?

Depends if Sony were able to money hat Pokemon/Mario for Vita would would happen to Nintendo? Nintendo took the software that made PSP competitive in Japan, which is horrible for competition.
 
Wasn't the only Dragon Quest game for the PSP Itadaki Street? Really, the series was only home on Sony systems from 1999 till 2006. All other times it was primarily on Nintendo systems.

I need to get fortune street and mario party 9

Told myself to get it ages ago and still didnt
 
Tbh nintendo would thrive in japan with pokemon, mariokart, animal crossing, dragon quest and mario platformers just fine like they did last gen. Monster hunter was the only multimillion seller for psp in japan (maybe even million seller?)

Exactly, Nintendo didn't need Monster Hunter, but Sony did. Which makes it pretty funny Nintendo now has that series on total lockdown, like with Dragon Quest. But even with DQ, that series didn't help the PSP out any, whereas MH almost single-handedly revived the PSP in Japan.

Sure. But acquiring Monster Hunter is still of direct and tangible benefit to Nintendo. I only loosely follow the Media Create threads, but Monster Hunter has shifted plenty of software and more importantly a fair share of hardware for Nintendo's benefit. It's a situation where getting that exclusivity has direct, real world benefits for Nintendo.

If Nintendo wasn't benefitting from the franchise then fair enough, but I think suggesting Nintendo securing Monster Hunter was done just out of spite for Sony is pretty disengenous. Anybody would want that franchise on their system for Japan irrespective of stuff like Mario Kart, Pokemon etc.

Depends if Sony were able to money hat Pokemon/Mario for Vita would would happen to Nintendo? Nintendo took the software that made PSP competitive in Japan, which is horrible for competition.

But it's not Nintendo's responsibility to uphold competition. If Nintendo has an opportunity to secure exclusivity over the most successful third party franchise in Japan, they are not obliged to turn down that opportunity just so Sony can remain competetive with them for the next 5 years.
 
Sure. But acquiring Monster Hunter is still of direct and tangible benefit to Nintendo. I only loosely follow the Media Create threads, but Monster Hunter has shifted plenty of software and more importantly a fair share of hardware for Nintendo's benefit. It's a situation where getting that exclusivity has direct, real world benefits for Nintendo.

If Nintendo wasn't benefitting from the franchise then fair enough, but I think suggesting Nintendo securing Monster Hunter was done just out of spite for Sony is pretty disengenous. Anybody would want that franchise on their system for Japan irrespective of stuff like Mario Kart, Pokemon etc.

It is making it exclusive that makes the move's motivations pretty transparent. Iwata can be a shark when he needs to be.
 
"In stock" at a Best Buy late in the day on Black Friday?

Nintendo, you're either doing it right or doing it completely wrong.

NPD will tell the tale.

i look forward to seeing how they spin the sales announcement.

both black and white units are in stock at 13 of 16 ebgames within the 50km range of my area. both bestbuy and futureshop have stock too. most stores never sold out at launch either. unless japan makes up a ton of sales (and it might) i really dont see nintendo hitting their 5.5m goal. 3DS like price drop in march might just happen.
 
According to Walmart.com in a 50 mile radius from my zip code and a search of 20 stores yields the following results:

10 stores "In stock"
5 stores "Limited stock"
5 stores "Sold out"

Heavily populated metropolitan area in the north east.

Edit: This is for the Wii U Deluxe, not basic.
 
From what I have seen in the Baltimore area, I've only seen a WiiU Deluxe once after I purchased one (at BJs), but the WiiU basic is pretty easy to find where I see it sit on shelves often. Seen it at Target, Best Buy, etc. It seems to be like Nintendo overshipped basic and under shipped Deluxe.
 
Whut. Xbox 1... why?
It's not necessarily that Xbox had greater early demand than most consoles, but they had the supply.
Mariah Carey said:
Actually, I think both Xbox and GC numbers there are for December or something. I'm pretty sure they were a little lower for their first November.
Nope. Though for both, November was actually a bit bigger than December.
CronoShot said:
In terms of people talking about it, I had three instances of people asking me if they could play Wii U games on their Wii.
If I didn't know better the way things are set up at the local store would confuse me as to what works with what. Wii U games are displayed next to Wii games, with Wii uDraw games as the buffer zone.
AniHawk said:
it's more than likely a demand problem. they are scheduling to ship less wii us until march 2013 than they shipped during the same period for the wii.
By about 6%.
James Sawyer Ford said:
If Wii U gets outsold by ps3 and 360 for November NPD, would that be seen as bomba?
New system being outsold by established systems would be seen as What Happens Every Time.
 
Nothing like a Nintendo console launch to tear communities apart.


Edit: I wonder what games I'll receive for the WiiU ambassador program...
 
i look forward to seeing how they spin the sales announcement.

both black and white units are in stock at 13 of 16 ebgames within the 50km range of my area. both bestbuy and futureshop have stock too. most stores never sold out at launch either. unless japan makes up a ton of sales (and it might) i really dont see nintendo hitting their 5.5m goal. 3DS like price drop in march might just happen.


Dude, isn't a bit early for statements like that? We don't have any clue how much units Nintendo shipped and sold through so far. For all we know, Nintendo could have shipped a million or even more consoles up until know in the USA. Or, for all we know, they could have had a launch shipment of 200k and another 100 or 200k until the end of this week.
 
If nintendo moneyhatted capcom, which they probably did, that was probably to make psvita fail but the price drop and the ambassador programm? I kinda doubt it

They probably didn't.
Remember on PSP Capcom were basically competing with Nintendo's DS for sales; with next to no help from Sony, the producers of the hardware.

When 3DS could run Monster Hunter, Capcom decided that by being on the 3DS they wouldn't have to compete with Nintendo's major first party games anymore. Instead they'd both benefit from creating a single major platform in Japan.

It was an easy decision to make as Capcom knew Sony couldn't sell Vita's without serious third party backing and a lead game; Monster Hunter. Take away Monster Hunter you take away users, which takes away third party support.


So Monster Hunter going to 3DS was designed to see 3DS succeed and Vita die.
Capcom were very quick to jump over; evidently unhappy at Sony not pushing the PSP even further on over the years and basically taking Capcom's hard earned cash.

Capcom didn't want two competing handhelds. So they ensured they were on the winning side.


I have no idea why people think Nintendo would have to pay Capcom to go 3DS exclusive. Vita sales show theres no negative to pay them off for; and Monster Hunter 3G did excellent.

There is all the reason for Capcom not to be loyal to Sony. I have no idea why anyone would expect them to remain on a Sony Handheld once Nintendo went 3D.


Off topic but then this isn't even a 'retail Wii U thread' so we all are :p
 
The deluxe being sold out while the regular edition sits on the shelves tells me this machine is only appealing to video game enthusiasts at the moment. The Wii U is not considered the must have toy this holiday season as the Wii was when it released. Doesnt seem very promising for Nintendo right now.
 
The deluxe being sold out while the regular edition sits on the shelves tells me this machine is only appealing to video game enthusiasts at the moment. The Wii U is not considered the must have toy this holiday season as the Wii was when it released. Doesnt seem very promising for Nintendo right now.

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Am just surprised people kept misleading me on how well the Wii sold at launch.
It wasn't just supply constrained; there was no supply beyond the initial shipment.
 
The deluxe being sold out while the regular edition sits on the shelves tells me this machine is only appealing to video game enthusiasts at the moment. The Wii U is not considered the must have toy this holiday season as the Wii was when it released. Doesnt seem very promising for Nintendo right now.
You're overthinking this. The people that I've seen in stores turning away from the regular ones because they wanted the deluxe model were what you'd think your typical Wii customers would be. Moms, families etc. You underestimate the pull that the branch still has and how educated people are. None of these people were confused in what they wanted. Despite stores trying their best, placin regular wii units at the wii u demo stations.
Some people are buying the white ones to exchange them for deluxe models later.
 
Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Am just surprised people kept misleading me on how well the Wii sold at launch.
It wasn't just supply constrained; there was no supply beyond the initial shipment.

its funny how people seem to think the wii blew up on day 1
 
its funny how people seem to think the wii blew up on day 1

If there had been stock it probably would have tbf; but important in this discussion. The 'its not sold out' stuff is pretty silly.

I do think the Basic/Deluxe is a reasonable discussion; its the supply constraint were seeing this time around. Nintendo likely made it 50/50 which seems to have been a mistake.

Not a sign of 'casuals' not buying though; most cases people go for the better option; and it is bundled with a game; a big addition to bring it up to marks with the 360/PS3 bundles.

First year on market as well; anyone budget constrained to go for Basic I'd say would not buy a new system at launch. They need more time to buy into the ideas and just get into the mode of wanting to get it. They made their holiday buying decisions months ago. A new system just isn't going to change those frankly.
 
Andrex i know there were some guys on neogaf that wanted vita to be exciting but realistically psp was a nonfactor in usa and psv had nothing to make the situation better

In japan they survived on monsterhunter only but that one switched to ds early in the game

If nintendo moneyhatted capcom, which they probably did, that was probably to make psvita fail but the price drop and the ambassador programm? I kinda doubt it
Monster Hunter acted more as a catalyst rather than being the only reason for the continued PSP success in Japan. The great 3rd party support after Monster Hunter was also a reason for the PSP success there.
 
The deluxe being sold out while the regular edition sits on the shelves tells me this machine is only appealing to video game enthusiasts at the moment. The Wii U is not considered the must have toy this holiday season as the Wii was when it released. Doesnt seem very promising for Nintendo right now.

15 out of 20 Walmarts within 50 miles of my zip code have the Deluxe in stock. I live in the Northeast. Don't think the edition matters that much... either Ninty did a great job with supply or there simply isn't enough demand.
 
Monster Hunter acted more as a catalyst rather than being the only reason for the continued PSP success in Japan. The great 3rd party support after Monster Hunter was also a reason for the PSP success there.

but i dont think any game outside of mh crossed the 1 million mark

there are plenty of 500k + sellers though
 
Yes, and look at how the Wii ended up. The 360 is still a beast with new games still on the way. Nintendo let the Wii die, they didn't improve upon anything( internet especially). I can't get over this and have become redundant in my posts stating it. I'm shocked that so many have such faith in Nintendo after abandoning their biggest success so quickly and so abruptly. If they did that with the behemoth the Wii was, what's the guarantee that they will support the Wii U any better?

I have a feeling this will have the exact life the Wii had. We'll get a 3d Mario, a Zelda, and a couple of other Nintendo franchises. 3rd party support will be the same as the Wii and perhaps even worse when the new consoles show up. I feel bad for the diehard Nintendo fans because I read all the hopes and wishes they have for the types of games they'd like Nintendo to make. Maybe a new Metroid, F Zero etc. Maybe some brand new IP's. I just don't see Nintendo doing it. They coasted on releasing a few spectacular games a year and bolstering that with hundreds of mini game collections. I don't see them changing direction at all.

I agree with this poster and I'm pleased such a post like this can still be made amongst the sometimes unrelenting hype.

I think the age of the Nintendo fan skews significantly younger and casuals who don't follow the industry as much (though that itself also has its drawbacks) and are much more willing to give Nintendo, a ruthless multi-national corporation like any other, the benefit of the doubt. They all get bitter in the end though!! :o)
 
15 out of 20 Walmarts within 50 miles of my zip code have the Deluxe in stock. I live in the Northeast. Don't think the edition matters that much... either Ninty did a great job with supply or there simply isn't enough demand.

Wal-Mart stock tracking is inaccurate for WiiU, according to people who have checked it out. Available stock is commonly either on layaway hold for someone or just mistaken. Sadly bestbuy and gamestop aren't permitting in store stock tracking for wiiu at the moment.
 
Wow, I'm incredibly glad I've garnered your criticism of my posting behavior on NeoGAF. I'm also impressed that you went into my posting history to discern what type of person I am. It is true, I go to NeoGAF to largely support the products I am genuinely interested in and engage in the community that I enjoy most. Both of these are overwhelmingly Nintendo related. I gush about the games I like and generally avoid the topics I can criticize. However, to make the logical leap that my forte is not criticism would be to make the same logical leap that modernists made over 200 years ago - that a part is wholly representative of the whole, and that one can "know" based on data collection alone.

It's not a "leap." It's an educated conclusion to the quality of your posts that is quite easy to discern if you read even a few of your posts. But there's also a search history that backs my point up quite well.

I also don't know why you seem to be irritated by this. People make judgments all the time about the people they're taking advice from or reading posts from. They do it about me all the time, about past mistakes I've made or what they deem as excessive negativity. It's only natural to read someone's posts over a time and make an assessment of worth. If you are trying to determine whether someone's opinion is one you can value on a certain subject, it's only natural to try to ascertain whether or not those views are in any way biased by some particular behavior.

I frequently have people come to me and say "oh here's Amir0x being negative again about everything, just ignore the point." In those individuals view, the criticism is from an insincere place, and that is a fair and honest judgment they have made based on how they have viewed my posts. I would argue my arguments are sincere, the same way you would argue yours are (and I would say that it's hard to think that yours aren't), but I hope this makes it easier to understand why if Gummb came to me and said "NINTENDOLAND is the greatest thing ever", I'd probably not take it very seriously. Alternatively, if you found a Nintendo product and started criticizing it, I might take it very seriously indeed - because I'd think to myself "if even Gummb is criticizing it, it must be pretty bad."

My response to your unabashed and unqualified attack on Nintendo Land was a reaction to its complete lack of regard to the possibility that there are those who do enjoy it and think that it is a unique collection. I was simply countering your representation of Nintendo Land because I have a different perspective than you. To engage in a "logical" debate with you about the merit of a game that you clearly cannot tolerate playing would be unproductive. I am not here to change your mind, but rather attempt to express my own descriptions of the game I enjoy.

I'm just stating my opinion emphatically and passionately, it's not disregarding that there are other people out there that may like it. I just don't particularly think it's worth me qualifying my opinions with "Imo" because it's pretty self-evident, we're talking about videogames after all. But also specific to the question that made me say what I did, I was responding to the idea that 'no one who is informed about the differences would prefer the White model Wii U', and illustrating on what terms people would still want that white Wii U. Those terms were unique to my experience, but also clearly apply to many other people too.

Yes, I think there is nothing like it on the market. I've never played a game collection that can generate this many gameplay outcomes. I have never played a game collection where my mother can spend 4 hours drawing lines on a pad to move a character around to collect fruit only for my brother and I to turn around and seriously engage in a cooperative battle on separate screens while he sits and I walk around the room. I've never played a game collection where I can go from laughing hysterically with friends to intensely focused on a timed-test run of a DK course.

But there are plenty of things like that on the market. The only difference I can tell is that you have a controller screen there to trick you into thinking otherwise. You're describing plenty of products. Shit, you're describing plenty of products that even came out on the original Wii. Anyway, the rest of your post seems largely in line. There's nothing against my reasons for not liking Nintendoland, so it seems you've largely just decided the points aren't relevant to your reasons for loving it. Which brings us back to square one :P
 
the announcements of the real next gen consoles, incites a similar reaction at NCL.

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its funny how people seem to think the wii blew up on day 1

Ummmm the Wii was sold out everywhere on black friday. I remember standing in front of Circuit City for hours while everyone else was camping at Best Buy and Target. There were literally about 100 people camping in front of both of those stores for the Wii when each only had 20. I lucked up and got one of the 10 Circuit City had.

People were calling stores every day checking on shipments and meeting the UPS man at Gamestop whenever word got out they would receive some that day. They were selling so easily that retailers started bundling every Wii with a bunch of crap people didnt want like coolers, wii remote attachments, random games, etc... and they still sold out.

I know some of you guys remember this.
 
Ummmm the Wii was sold out everywhere on black friday. I remember standing in front of Circuit City for hours while everyone else was camping at Best Buy and Target. There were literally about 100 people camping in front of both of those stores for the Wii when each only had 20. I lucked up and got one of the 10 Circuit City had.

People were calling stores every day checking on shipments and meeting the UPS man at Gamestop whenever word got out they would receive some that day.

I know some of you guys remember this.

yup, Wii was sold out everywhere even into January sometimes

Edit: Just read this article on the type of experiences people were having trying to secure a Wii
 
but i dont think any game outside of mh crossed the 1 million mark

there are plenty of 500k + sellers though
That is true, but it is more about the offering of the whole game library in total :) Since the release of Monster Hunter Portable 2, over 14 million PSPs has been sold in Japan. The MH games topped out at around 4-5 million each, but there is a lot of overlapping here (previous PSP owners who own MH2/G also bough MHP3rd). There is some overlapping on the hardware side too (new PSP-3000 model, new colors, limited editions, replacement units etc.), but i think these numbers shows that a lot of people who bought a PSP havnt bought any Monster Hunter games yet. There is also the used game sales of course, but since it is about millions of PSP, it would mean that millions of used MH copies would have to be sold for this to balance out, i dont think there have been sold that many used copies of MH games, but who knows.

MH was a big catalyst though, no doubt about that, but i think the continued 3rd party support is also a big reason for the PSP success in Japan. It has been about 2 years since the release of MHP3rd, but still the PSP gets new games pretty much every week.
 
Ummmm the Wii was sold out everywhere on black friday. I remember standing in front of Circuit City for hours while everyone else was camping at Best Buy and Target. There were literally about 100 people camping in front of both of those stores for the Wii when each only had 20. I lucked up and got one of the 10 Circuit City had.

People were calling stores every day checking on shipments and meeting the UPS man at Gamestop whenever word got out they would receive some that day.

I know some of you guys remember this.

Yep, i waited outside a circuit city the black friday of the wiis launch.
I was like 3rd in line and they had NONE. Best buy had a few i heard later, but Circuit City never got their shipment.

I couldn't find a wii for at least a month or two later, and I still had to wait in line.
 
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