Smiles and Cries
Member
jump to conclusion GAF almost has me convinced there is a problem here, almost
Wii U eBay resale / sellout / availability discussion
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Do you have any data to back that up?
The item description points out the seller doesn't actually have one to sell yet, but promises he will.
gamergirly
Member
Its like people from 2006 with a venegance. Never knew there were so many that really want Nintendo out of the industry. The console is not even a week old. Let me repeat. Not even a week old
gamergirly
Member
Can u show us some links? Evidence? PRs?
speculawyer
Member
That is the worrying thing.
I don't think many people want Nintendo out of the industry . . . anyone that does is just some silly partisan fanboy that should be ignored.
Without knowing how much Nintendo is shipping we really cannot tell that much.
I just bought a second deluxe unit without much hassle. Seems like some of the stores in the greater New Haven area in CT received new stock in the past 36 hours. Went to a Target that had basic units in stock and to a Gamestop that had both models in stock aplenty.
Before you guys get all in arms crazy about me purchasing multiple units, neither of my deluxes are going to be resold. One is Xmas gift for my sister and the other is mine.
Before you guys get all in arms crazy about me purchasing multiple units, neither of my deluxes are going to be resold. One is Xmas gift for my sister and the other is mine.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
but I thought Gamestop had a billion pre-orders to fulfil?
I just sold my second deluxe unit for 435 before shipping. Shipping was another 35 dollars. I live in Oregon, so there's no sales tax but if there was I'd be kinda pissed. Shipping in actuality was 25, fees are going to be about 41 before paypal fees, and paypal fees will be another 13ish. If I had to pay sales tax on it, I would have basically broken even. That's some bullshit. Doing this reminded me how much I fucking hate Ebay.
...also, the reason why I even bought a second system was to help finance the games. I had the system paid off, but I'm very underemployed right now and was hoping it'd at least cover the games.
...also, the reason why I even bought a second system was to help finance the games. I had the system paid off, but I'm very underemployed right now and was hoping it'd at least cover the games.
Other than word of mouth from family/friends, work colleagues and of course GAF, no nothing i can link you to. But a dearth of negitave opinions is indeed what i've been hearing.
I've had my Wii U pre-ordered since they were available in September. But from then onwards my own hype has been eroded to the point that i'm scrapping for excuses to keep my order and not to cancel and pick up a bunch cheap games on other systems.
Which is what I constantly harp about. It was a dud. But the revisionists who want to rewrite history and deny it was ebay gold at launch need to be shouted down. Cause it took a couple weeks to reveal it was a sinking ship. Wii U hasn't shown it's gonna be a bust on that level. But it also hasn't shown it can even match PS3's performance yet. PS3 at least had launch. The next couple weeks will reveal what Wii U can do.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Lord_Byron28
Member
If that 1.5 million shipment is true I wonder if Nintendo is trying to aggressively grow the userbase in North America since the west is a major battleground for console sales and Microsoft and Sony are pretty competitive there as well.
I agree by mid December/January will really be indicative of the direction of Wii u. It hasn't even launched outside of NA.
Outside of 3DS, I can't recall anyone else hyping preorder numbers.
I bought two deluxe units in the past 36 hours at Gamestops (Branford & North Haven, CT) without having pre-ordered.
Hehe, my very first Gif reply on GAF
But your right, I used dearth incorrectly. But remove it from the post and my point still stands. I'm a deflated Nintendo fan and i'm looking for reasons to KEEP my pre-order. Its just not right!!
speculawyer
Member
I passed on preordering a WiiU and figured I would not be able to get one for a while. When I saw one in the store, I thought "Hey I can still get one." and almost picked it up. But then I questioned why and the fact that there were available kinda made me feel there is something wrong with it. Weird the way that psychology works.
But if there was a Super Mario game, I would have picked it up. I'll probably get one when we get a good 3D Mario platformer.
But if there was a Super Mario game, I would have picked it up. I'll probably get one when we get a good 3D Mario platformer.
Um... About that...
Yes, I know, you mean a 3D Mario game, not 2D.
m.i.s.
Banned
I'd be interested to hear why you think this. The reported RAM and CPU issues? If so, you should just ignore what others say.
It's only par for the course here at GAF that there will be fevered speculation and intense scrutiny of a newly launched platform.
There really shoudn't be a persecution complex on this. It's the same for Sony fans too! Just ask Vita owners.
) If you enjoy the system and the games, then that's all that matters surely?
Nintendo have done an awful job with getting the message across to the casual audience, and if the Wii U does end up struggling after launch (which I think it will) I can't see how they can't at the very least take part of the blame. The more I look at the box art on both sets, the more I feel Nintendo have dropped the ball - it really does look like an add-on to the original Wii with the way the GamePad is emphasized over the actual console.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Hehe, my very first Gif reply on GAF
But your right, I used dearth incorrectly. But remove it from the post and my point still stands. I'm a deflated Nintendo fan and i'm looking for reasons to KEEP my pre-order. Its just not right!!
I honestly don't understand why you guys are holding on to a preorder if you have any reservations. If NSMB is a killer app for you then get the system if not just wait for the Mario/Zelda/Metroid. Why get it now if your uncertain? You have nothing to lose by waiting.
People were jumping all over me for saying the same thing prior to launch but its a big problem. My nephews just assumed it was a add-on which is a logical conclusion being that the original Wii is a cluster fu#$ of add ons. If I hadn't told my brother in law it was a new system he would have had no idea and this is a guy that has a 360, PS3 and Wii and plays games pretty regularly. I can only imagine what the casual Wii base thinks it is. Plus that commercial doesn't help at all.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Saw some just sitting in the case @ Toys R Us today. Either Nintendo shipped far more Wii U's than Wii's or no one gives a shit about it (comparatively). Hard to believe that a day after Black Friday you can still find one in a store with a modest amount of effort. What a change from 6 years ago.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Well I think thats the curse of every videogame fan regardless of system. Seriously though especially if you have other systems why jump in now? There are so many games out right now that my backlog that I was finally catching up on just exploded on me. DAMN YOU MSOFT AND YOUR BLACK FRIDAY SALE!!
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Saw 3 Basic Wii U's sitting in a display at Walmart, and only one Wii. I think it's safe to say these things will be in stock most places.
Gary Whitta
Member
Yeah I was on a GameStop wait list and they've been calling me to come pick mine up but I told them I found one elsewhere and to give it to the next person on the list. At least here in the Bay Area deluxe units seem to be in ready supply.
Some of that has to be due to some confusion. I can't tell you how many times I've overheard someone saying that the Wii U is a tablet controller for the Wii. It should've been called a Wii 2.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Well, whether or not there's a long term problem on Nintendo's hands probably won't become completely clear until January -- after the holiday shopping madness. However, right now, I'd say that the system's current availability certainly isn't promising in terms of what to expect. I think a lot of us here expected something of a dry spell after the holidays, but I didn't really expect that they'd be pretty easy to find a week after launch after black Friday. Kind of wish I hadn't bought that basic unit on launch day, but oh well. I'm not that concerned about Nintendo Land or the hard drive space.
Smiles and Cries
Member
you should cancel your order if you need people to convince you to enjoy gaming you should think about another hobby that would be more fun.
I asked EatChildren jokingly why he did not cancel after all the negativity
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44649614&postcount=9792
"But the negative buzz doesn't effect me much as I'm an adult capable of critical reasoning skills and making my own decisions and projections. I bought a Wii at launch and (as I've reiterated many times) I could write an essay on the problems I had with Nintendo and the system, but by the end I was still very happy with my purchase and all these years later wouldn't change my launch day decision."
^ I think if you are going to buy something this is the way to go.
You can always regret it later but you won't have to feel like you depended on others to spend your money. It's your money don't force yourself to spend it if you are not feeling it.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Yeah, my point was more stories like this kept popping up: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/more-than-250000-on-gamestop-wii-u-waitlist-6398860
That makes it sound like they had sold out of day one AND had a further 250,000 on a wait list.
So are we to assume all of those people have got one? People have changed their minds? Gamestop ignoring the wait list?
Sadly, it is a part of the problem. We'll never know whether it would have mattered, but it's definitely a problem. If you're going to compete with 329 ipad minis and 359 dollar (BF deals) ipad 2's for buzz, you at least have to be in the game. For there to be no awareness among the general public is something Reggie should have to answer for. And once we get past the holidays, they'll have to battle next gen systems by MS and Sony.
I'm not convinced they could have won this fight anyways, but to see them not even enter the ring is a little sad. I'm sure it'll be a hit in Japan, but this is not their finest hour.
gamergirly
Member
Without a video recording, we don't even know if Gamestop is still calling people on a waitlist. I was under the impression that you got called once, then within 24 hours your console was released to somebody else.
Steve Youngblood
Member
My assumption is that it's probably a combination of factors. Whether people are trying to flip them or they really wanted one for themselves, I think some hedge their bets and preorder from more than one place. So, just in case location A falls through, they've got places B and C as backups. Or they're always planned on buying all of them to sell.
Other factors are that I'm sure a few people have waited for the dust to settle and realized that these weren't going to be hard to come by, so have held back on pulling the trigger. And given the second shipments presumably for Black Friday, I wouldn't write off better than expected inventory.
But, no matter what it ultimately is, I think it's safe to say that the demand has been less than what the online sellouts back in September indicated.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
was at target yesterday and they had a stack of about 20-30 of them
m.i.s.
Banned
Probably not, but my initial post was in response to MCV who report that: Multiple games buyers have told us their launch allocation of the Wii U has been completely taken by pre-orders but without providing a figure.
No PS3 was sold out for a few days to maybe a week or so... or a little longer. Though, some people made a killing off the PS3 on ebay initially.
Pre-launch Nintendo said they wanted to avoid the Wii situation. Compared to the 2006 Wii, they had more available on launch day, more restocked for Black Friday, and there will be more frequent restocks throughout the Holiday season.
How many more exactly? We don't know.
Here are some previous console launch NPD numbers
All we know for sure is that Nintendo shipped more and is restocking more frequently compared to the original Wii.
We'll either have to wait for Nintendo PR or NPD to see how much the Wii U is actually selling.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
If the thing was lighting up the sales charts and Nintendo just had a great supply line I feel like we would have had some type of announcement from them. If we don't hear anything this week we won't even need NPDs
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Everywhere is still taking orders for day one, brah. There's no money to be made.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
There's no chance on Earth you're getting £500 for it.
It makes a lot more sense to wait for this weekend and announce results then. "One week after launch the Wii U has sold blah blah blah"
Gary Whitta
Member
Just based on the highly unscientific, anecdotal info we're hearing, I'm leaning toward the initial launch being a flop. I really hope not, Nintendo is really the only console maker trying anything different and I'd rather see that rewarded. I guess we'll know soon enough.
In any case Sony has shown that you can have a disastrous launch and still recover.
In any case Sony has shown that you can have a disastrous launch and still recover.
ZedIndyLil
Member
IF the launch has in fact been underwhelming, Nintendo's first PR on it will probably undergo a parsing and analysis here not seen since the Dead Sea Scrolls 
TheDrowningMan
Member
Yeah, although I think it'll be more difficult for Nintendo; they really captured the consumer-entertainment zeitgeist with Wii & DS. The problem with making that a strategy is that times change, people move on. iPhone / iPod / iPad etc have a wealth of good, bite sized games; nothing that compares to a Nintendo epic like Super Mario Galaxy, but those who enjoyed Wii for its novelty are hardly sitting around pondering the level design of its finest offerings.
It's silly, for a slightly higher initial loss Nintendo could've whacked a good, modern CPU in the thing, ensured compatibility with a large chunk of Wii games via emulation, opted for faster RAM and they'd have had a system which blitzed the 360 & PS3; they could have said "hey, look at CoD on Wii-U, full 1080p, 60fps", they could have more or less assured not only a place in their library for GTA V, but the best console version at that.
Instead, they've gambled on the Wii market being there once more, despite evidence that it's been cannibalised significantly. They could have made themselves THE hardcore platform for a while, perhaps forced the others to rush, to make unforced errors. The same people who're buying it for Mario Kart & Zelda would have bought it all the same, but perhaps the extra grunt would've helped Nintendo do a bit of cannibalising of their own.
goldenpp72
Member
Sony did so by being able to equal or surpass the 360 in some aspects depending on your taste, Nintendo won't have that leverage aside the same pull they have always had with Nintendo fans like myself. I really don't see how the Wii U could rebound or be compared to the ps3 when its only innovation is slapping a touch screen on a controller that is used for purposes no more compelling than the very games people claim to hate on phones. I do think people would buy it based on the fact it is a Wii successor, but many don't even seem aware that this is a new device. I do hope the system succeeds as I as a gamer could not imagine gaming without the IP Nintendo produces.