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Until digital can give me a chromium cover, it is not an option to me.

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Bedlam #1: It starts off feeling like Nemesis, hyper violent, and then gets a little weird, and then gets extremely preachy and boring until almost the end with that press conference seemingly never ending. Not sure how i feel overall.

This is in my "to read" pile so I can tell if I want to get on the next issue or not.

Kind of alarming.

Reading the Alan Davis Clandestine annual issues and uh. . . this better come together in the Wolverine annual. So far I'm not feeling it, but there was some brilliant action in the Daredevil annual.

I flipped through that Bleeding Cool magazine at the shop yesterday (comic shop, three times, one week - I don't have a problem) and was incredibly amused by the Wizard style price guide. I was also alarmed to see that Peter Panzerfaust is allegedly reselling for such a ridiculous amount of money. Have these rubes not read the book?

I don't get it. Six issues before dropping it and I fail to see the appeal. It's like hipster Kelly's Heroes with incredibly shitty art.
 
Finished Osama Tezuka's Barbara yesterday, I really appreciate the ability to even see his works outside of Japan. When I first learned of him years ago I never expected to see this, MW, Apollo's Song among others.

Apollo's Song is fucking awesome. It begins with Tezuka drawing 500 million personified sperm all trying to fertilize an egg for six or seven pages. MW is also p. cool - Urasawa was definitely looking at that when he did Monster.
 
The problem with digital is two fold; pricing (comics should be $0.99 and below) and ease of use (Need to be DRM free PDFs). Until that happens? Not worth it. Why in God's name would I pay $2-3.99 for a DRM restricted version of my comic I can't sell or trade???

Would guided view work with PDFs?

Also, lol at "selling" comics
 
Idiot troll Tom Brevoort is trying to come for Madelyne Pryor on formspring. I really hate this guy. What does he know about good comics anyways? I've never seen someone so assured in their shit opinions as Tom Brevoort. Madelyne Pryor >>>>>>> every redhead in comics.
 
Peter Panzerfaust tpb is in my backlog.....bring on the Hipster art.

Who knew they had skinny pants in WWII?!

But really - the art is super the lackingest in terms of setting the stage and selling the action. Books like this are the reason I enjoy Black Kiss 2 so much.

Howard Chaykin draws more in one panel of Black Kiss 2 than in an entire issue of Peter Panzerfaust. :X

Ignoring the art, I'm curious if you end up enjoying the story.

I'm amused Binladen Birdie thinks he knows what comic collecting and selling to clear a collection is all about.

Bottom line Junior, I've been reading comics forever and it's reached a point where I need to cull non-essential books from my collection in order to move forward.

Now I'm sure you would be totally cool with trading first appearances of Gambshit and Deadpool with Likes on facebook or something similarly retarded; but if I can sell these to someone who gives a shit? AWESOME! I don't need them and I can use the cash to pay off some bills.

Other stuff will be donated to charity (apologies in advance to whatever charity is on the receiving end).

So yeah, if you want to come at my collection like you know shit then feel free to front.

Long boxes in the attic:

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Short boxes, sorted and unsorted runs in studio:

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One bookshelf, the other is a mix of comics, art reference, and game art books:

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Six drawer boxes with my favorite runs that need to be culled, and two boxes of unread stuff. Seven boxes of manga:

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In order to move forward in life I need to reduce the amount of comic baggage that's being dragged behind me.

Plus my house is a mess and I'm fucking sick of that.

Yeah LOL SELLING COMICS!

Stay free brah!
 
Finished the second volume of Bulletproof Coffin. Heh, it was super weird and uneven but overall pretty good. First volume was just much more interesting.
 
Is there a reason why Marvel and DC haven't been able to capitalize on the success of their films and increase the sales of their comics? Have they even tried?
 
I'm amused Binladen Birdie thinks he knows what comic collecting and selling to clear a collection is all about.

Bottom line Junior, I've been reading comics forever and it's reached a point where I need to cull non-essential books from my collection in order to move forward.

Now I'm sure you would be totally cool with trading first appearances of Gambshit and Deadpool with Likes on facebook or something similarly retarded; but if I can sell these to someone who gives a shit? AWESOME! I don't need them and I can use the cash to pay off some bills.

Other stuff will be donated to charity (apologies in advance to whatever charity is on the receiving end).

So yeah, if you want to come at my collection like you know shit then feel free to front.

Long boxes in the attic:

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Short boxes, sorted and unsorted runs in studio:

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One bookshelf, the other is a mix of comics, art reference, and game art books:

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Six drawer boxes with my favorite runs that need to be culled, and two boxes of unread stuff. Seven boxes of manga:

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In order to move forward in life I need to reduce the amount of comic baggage that's being dragged behind me.

Plus my house is a mess and I'm fucking sick of that.

Yeah LOL SELLING COMICS!

Stay free brah!

Are you shitting me right now? I mean, I know you won't respond to me because you never do when I call you out directly, but I was talking about being able to sell comics. For money. Which I believe is a fools errand that wastes more time than any small (and it would be small) amount of money you'd be able to get on eBay.

Not get rid of comics.

Which I have done, multiple times. I donated four longboxes and eight tote bags of books to my local branch of the Queens Library and I have a box of about 200 which will be heading out to a local shelter.

The fact that you are wrong on this about me is no surprise, as you are constantly and consistently wrong about me on just about everything.

But keep on jumping to your conclusions, Hulk-style, from one madcap desert butte of a misconception to another.

Now, I'll let you get back to reading this post, not responding, and then waiting for someone to bring up Ryan Stegman so you can once again post in the thread.
 
Is there a reason why Marvel and DC haven't been able to capitalize on the success of their films and increase the sales of their comics? Have they even tried?

Following comics requires some baseline of knowledge and effort which most people do not want to deal with.
 
Are you shitting me right now? I mean, I know you won't respond to me because you never do when I call you out directly, but I was talking about being able to sell comics. For money. Which I believe is a fools errand that wastes more time than any small (and it would be small) amount of money you'd be able to get on eBay.

Not get rid of comics.

Which I have done, multiple times. I donated four longboxes and eight tote bags of books to my local branch of the Queens Library and I have a box of about 200 which will be heading out to a local shelter.

The fact that you are wrong on this about me is no surprise, as you are constantly and consistently wrong about me on just about everything.

But keep on jumping to your conclusions, Hulk-style, from one madcap desert butte of a misconception to another.

I pick and choose when to reply. I'm not into performing public dissections of neogaf members due to my volatile ban history.

So long as I'm Hulk written by Loeb and drawn by McGuinness I'm good. I don't want to be all fugly, boring storyboard scratches Hardman and apologies to butthurt status quo fan Parker Hulk.

BARF!
 
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Thor: "I was fine with the killer robots, concentration camps, mutant experimentation, apartheid, genocide, terrorism and wars. But throwing rocks on people? Booing!? This has gone too far!"

This series is so goddamn contrived
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Is there a reason why Marvel and DC haven't been able to capitalize on the success of their films and increase the sales of their comics? Have they even tried?

DC and Marvel are simply incompetent when it comes to selling comics.

They could buy advertising on TV which helped the DC relaunch immensely when there were actual comic book commercials on TV nearly every commercial break leading up to the relaunch. They were shooting for the moon advertising that shit far and wide.

Now they don't even advertise their books during their cartoons, before their movies, etc. It's such an OBVIOUS answer.

The execs seem to believe that things work backward from how we know they work. Meaning, they seem to assume the video games, movies, and cartoons sell the comics.

I've collected comics from as early as I can remember, and the DC nu52 launch is the only memory I have of actual comic books being advertised on television.

Oh wait, I do recall commercials for G.I.Joe comics from back in the day. Although I'm not sure if that was just Hasbro doing marketing for Marvel.

I don't recall if Marvel pimped comics during Spiderman and his Amazing Friends. . .

My avx comics sold....then the buyer didn't pay.

So they made like Marvel and took your money and ran? :X
 
Advertising comics isn't going to change the fact that they're too expensive and you have to venture into a nerd dungeon to buy them (non digitally). There seems to be a broader issue of distribution too. You have to put them where kids are going to be and make them affordable, impulse buys.

So yeah, comics are pretty much fucked.
 
But what about all the teens and adults who would read them? How do you get them into comic stores? I feel like that shouldn't be an issue anymore because being a "nerd" isn't a thing of derision now.

I feel like there is such a huge opportunity to get more comics out there with digital pricing and the popularity of the characters but no one has capitalized on it yet. I do think it's important to sell them places other than comic stores. Maybe they would get an impulse buy and gain a reader who would eventually venture into a comic store.
 
Thor: "I was fine with the killer robots, concentration camps, mutant experimentation, apartheid, genocide, terrorism and wars. But throwing rocks on people? Booing!? This has gone too far!"

Lol. Which is why I found all of AvX so damn distasteful. Hey, Earth's Mightest Heroes? Where were you during Genosha? The government run concentration camps that took the life of the world's greatest mutant, Maggot? How about we name the Avengers who haven't gone evil at one point or another and came back like an issue later. I'll start. None of them. Now you want to act all cooperative and shit? How about that little Civil War thing you had and promptly forgave everybody for like, 2 minutes later?

Pious asshats.
 
But what about all the teens and adults who would read them? How do you get them into comic stores? I feel like that shouldn't be an issue anymore because being a "nerd" isn't a thing of derision now.

I feel like there is such a huge opportunity to get more comics out there with digital pricing and the popularity of the characters but no one has capitalized on it yet. I do think it's important to sell them places other than comic stores. Maybe they would get an impulse buy and gain a reader who would eventually venture into a comic store.

Marvel: Season One! Doy! $20 digital comics for -- oh hell, god damn it, comics are doomed.
 
Remember subscriptions? You used to get comics delivered right to your doorstep for substantially less than what you could pick up the individual issues in store! It's true!

Now, if there was only some way of transitioning that model to the modern world. Surely, there has got to be a way, what with all the silicon chips and such!

But how!?
 
MArvel and DC need to market in theaters. those point 1 sampler they make would make good freebies around movie time.

there was a guy who set up a little stand inside my local theater and had Batman, spiderman and avengers comics among others. it attracted a crowd
 
MArvel and DC need to market in theaters. those point 1 sampler they make would make good freebies around movie time.

there was a guy who set up a little stand inside my local theater and had Batman, spiderman and avengers comics among others. it attracted a crowd

Or even better, make it a digital kiosk with iPads. That way they don't have to spend money on reprints.

edit: Also, is it just me or are all of the current Marvel NOW! releases kind of boring? Hawkeye is the only consistent performer at this point...
 
Following comics requires some baseline of knowledge and effort which most people do not want to deal with.

I maintain a firm belief that all trades should have one page dedicated to recapping previous events and/or a character dossier to help people with previously established characters. I understand that would be add a decent cost to floppies (between using up a page and changing the info each month), but trades? That'd be cheap as hell in the grand scheme of things, and it'd go a long ways to letting people pick up any book in the DC and Marvel universes, or even just sample any installment in a longer series.

Previously on recap certainly help TV shows keep an audience that includes people who don't necessarily live and breathe the shows and absorb every detail and nuance. Meet that audience halfway. It shouldn't be that hard.
 
Or even better, make it a digital kiosk with iPads. That way they don't have to spend money on reprints.

edit: Also, is it just me or are all of the current Marvel NOW! releases kind of boring? Hawkeye is the only consistent performer at this point...

or a Qr code to get a free comic
 
It's all about digital periodicals, with reprints on low tech paper now.

The direct stores are on life support, and little will change that.

iPads are the new spinner rack.
 
Advertising comics isn't going to change the fact that they're too expensive and you have to venture into a nerd dungeon to buy them (non digitally). There seems to be a broader issue of distribution too. You have to put them where kids are going to be and make them affordable, impulse buys.

So yeah, comics are pretty much fucked.

Distribution can only be reconciled by killing Diamond and taking a good portion of the comic shops with them.

Comics abandoning the returnable model for direct market non-returnable issues is what cut off comics from every retailer that used to have a spinner rack.

Don't disagree on price for printed comics, I don't think that genie can get put back in it's bottle; but that doesn't mean digital comics need to die to placate a dying king.

But what about all the teens and adults who would read them? How do you get them into comic stores? I feel like that shouldn't be an issue anymore because being a "nerd" isn't a thing of derision now.

I feel like there is such a huge opportunity to get more comics out there with digital pricing and the popularity of the characters but no one has capitalized on it yet. I do think it's important to sell them places other than comic stores. Maybe they would get an impulse buy and gain a reader who would eventually venture into a comic store.

MArvel and DC need to market in theaters. those point 1 sampler they make would make good freebies around movie time.

there was a guy who set up a little stand inside my local theater and had Batman, spiderman and avengers comics among others. it attracted a crowd

Free digital comic redemption codes (a QR code even) should be printed on theater tickets, or pre-printed on the shit they hand you when you buy a movie ticket these days. Physical comics isn't a bad idea either, but one issue of a comic which may not resemble the film you're going to see could be off putting. It's also more of a hassle if you give them to people going into the theater or who may be leaving, but stopping off at the restroom before they head out.

Digital should be the deal.

A free month of Marvel We Don't Take Digital Seriously Unlimited would be great. The first volume of Snyder/Capullo's Batman for your mobile device when you go see Dark Knight or buy the Bluray/DVD.

Comics could be thriving. At the very least comics could be respected as a medium.

Reaching adults might be harder. The superhero movies work so well because they have the bloodless violence and family friendly ratings, but the action dad wants to see, and the shirtless Chris Hemsworth mom wants to see.

Comics need to get out of the superhero ghetto to reach a wider audience as well. To the indoctrinated a superhero comic is an action flick without a budget. To the general public they're juvenile power trips.
 
RIP (non-digitial) Comics

I think there is definitely a place for trades and omnibuses, but for weeklies it just so much easier to deal with digital. Ads don't bleed through pages and you don't have to worry about tossing them when you run out of room. The only problem is that you can't go into a store and skim an issue and see if you want it.
 
I think there is definitely a place for trades and omnibuses, but for weeklies it just so much easier to deal with digital. Ads don't bleed through pages and you don't have to worry about tossing them when you run out of room. The only problem is that you can't go into a store and skim an issue and see if you want it.

I think I'd shoot myself in the face the fifth time I bought a digital comic with an Alan Davis cover and Steve Epting interiors.

That's just how it would go down I'm afraid.
 
Advertising comics isn't going to change the fact that they're too expensive and you have to venture into a nerd dungeon to buy them (non digitally). There seems to be a broader issue of distribution too. You have to put them where kids are going to be and make them affordable, impulse buys.

So yeah, comics are pretty much fucked.

The nerd dungeon thing seems to be the biggest issue. It baffled me to read that Diamond has only 3000 customers buying directly from them worldwide. Why they don't try and push that stuff in supermarkets is beyond me.
 
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Thor: "I was fine with the killer robots, concentration camps, mutant experimentation, apartheid, genocide, terrorism and wars. But throwing rocks on people? Booing!? This has gone too far!"

This series is so goddamn contrived
KuGsj.gif

Eyebrows? Where we're going, we don't need... eyebrows.
 
I think I'd shoot myself in the face the fifth time I bought a digital comic with an Alan Davis cover and Steve Epting interiors.

That's just how it would go down I'm afraid.

True enough, you are absolutely right when it comes to the wasted opportunity with the movies. Marvel especially had a wasted opportunity with Spider-man this summer, the movie had the lizard, the comic was doing a lizard arc. Anyone with half a brain should have realized to put a QR code on the tickets for a free issue! It's just so stupid, this isn't a crazy idea.

The nerd dungeon thing seems to be the biggest issue. It baffled me to read that Diamond has only 3000 customers buying directly from them worldwide. Why they don't try and push that stuff in supermarkets is beyond me.

They've started putting comics on the newsstands at barnes and noble, but it's not a whole lot to choose from.
 
Been lurking these threads ever since I got recommendations awhile back, you guys have gotten me back into comics full force. Love you guys!

Oh and Saga and the latest Batman is the best thing ever.
 
When did Thor spend an entire episode transforming into Super-Saiyasgardian 3?

Remender is writing them all way too dumb. Its kinda annoying.
 
Eyebrows wouldn't hurt either. Thor just looks weird as fuck there.

Yeah, I just assumed that was the crazy uber Nordic look like Mads Mikkelsen. The existence of his eyebrows is dubious, and they both ascribe to the Guile school of brow grooming it seems.

Oh and I'm going to shoot myself in the face now.

Don't hear back from this pubisher for three weeks and DING! E-mail out of the blue after three weeks. >:O
 
Been lurking these threads ever since I got recommendations awhile back, you guys have gotten me back into comics full force. Love you guys!

Oh and Saga and the latest Batman is the best thing ever.

What is up man. Read Demon Knights. It's the best comic that nobody here talks about because it's a DC comic that doesn't have Bat in the title.
 
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Thor: "I was fine with the killer robots, concentration camps, mutant experimentation, apartheid, genocide, terrorism and wars. But throwing rocks on people? Booing!? This has gone too far!"

This series is so goddamn contrived
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and we're waiting how many weeks between issues now? what a shitshow. cant even get some damn eyebrows on this derpy-ass mofo.
 
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