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[GoldenEye 007]

I'm sure EJ will land on his feet as a coordinator at one of these Southeast schools with openings. He did an outstanding job at South Carolina and has great recruiting ties in the region.

Not sure where USM goes from here, on the other hand...

I don't know. He managed to take a 12-2 team just off a conference title and bowl win vs. a Big 10 team to an 0fer the next season. He made questionable assistant hires and his head coaching record as a whole is suspect.

Not sure what team would want him now even as a coordinator.

 

[Talon]

I don't know. He managed to take a 12-2 team just off a conference title and bowl win vs. a Big 10 team to an 0fer the next season. He made questionable assistant hires and his head coaching record as a whole is suspect.

Not sure what team would want him now even as a coordinator.

There are 119 D1 schools. Somebody will hire him.

Why not Clemson?

 

[bachikarn]

Muschamp doesn't think too highly of Pac 12 refs either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=weBjmWlaHIg

 

[cdyhybrid]

Does anybody want me to post a picture of Johnny Football dressed as scooby doo while a girl dressed in black lingerie grinds on him?

I've seen it already, but yes.

Muschamp doesn't think too highly of Pac 12 refs either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=weBjmWlaHIg

I don't know anyone who does.

 

[Lonestar]

I don't know. He managed to take a 12-2 team just off a conference title and bowl win vs. a Big 10 team to an 0fer the next season. He made questionable assistant hires and his head coaching record as a whole is suspect.

Not sure what team would want him now even as a coordinator.

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
Ellis Johnson's 3 head coaching gigs (G-Webb, Citadel, USM) lasted 1, 3 and 1 years. 1.67 average has to be a record low.

Not sure of his record at Citadel or G-Webb, but obviously they were bad.

 

[mre]

I don't know. He managed to take a 12-2 team just off a conference title and bowl win vs. a Big 10 team to an 0fer the next season. He made questionable assistant hires and his head coaching record as a whole is suspect.

Not sure what team would want him now even as a coordinator.

Because he has a proven record as a coordinator. I'm not sure what his failing as a head coach has anything to do with his ability to be a hell of a defensive coordinator.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Because he has a proven record as a coordinator. I'm not sure what his failing as a head coach has anything to do with his ability to be a hell of a defensive coordinator.

Oh, have little knowledge of him as a coordinator.

 

[Draxal]

So it begins.

http://m.dukechronicle.com/article/...cle/acc-files-lawsuit-against-maryland-monday

 

[mre]

Oh, have little knowledge of him as a coordinator.

He's been a D-coordinator at Bama, Clempson, USCe, and Mississippi State. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Johnson_(American_football_coach)#Assistant_coaching_career

 

[Talon]

Speaking of Auburn still, it sucks to be a fan of the 2nd team in a city/state. Mets, Jets, Auburn, Clippers, etc. A pile of misery in those fan bases - sucks doubly that the rivals happen to be among the most storied franchises/schools in the sport.

 

[mre]

Speaking of Auburn still, it sucks to be a fan of the 2nd team in a city/state. Mets, Jets, Auburn, Clippers, etc. A pile of misery in those fan bases - sucks doubly that the rivals happen to be among the most storied franchises/schools in the sport.

I'm okay with the current state of affairs in Lee County, Alabama.

 

[impirius]

Oh, have little knowledge of him as a coordinator.

South Carolina was #3 in total defense last year with him as DC, and EJ was the point man for recruiting Clowney. He'll find work!

Also, JESUS MIKE LONDON WHAT ARE YOU DOING:

(via)

 

[Talon]

I'm okay with the current state of affairs in Lee County, Alabama.

Real Talk: Only time I've been to Auburn was for a math tournament.

More Real Talk: Alabama is a powerhouse in the math team circuit. Who knew?!

 

[mre]

Real Talk: Only time I've been to Auburn was for a math tournament.

More Real Talk: Alabama is a powerhouse in the math team circuit. Who knew?!

The schools in the "white"/upper-middle class/upper class suburbs around Birmingham, Mountain Brook, Vestavia Hills, Homewood, etc., are top notch and have always done well in events like that.

 

[Draxal]

Stoops to Kentucky looks official.

 

[mre]

Stoops to Kentucky looks official.

He must not have gotten the memo.

 

[Talon]

I look forward to the return of frustratedMikeStoops.gif

 

[mre]

I look forward to the return of frustratedMikeStoops.gif

I think this is the other, other Stoops.

 

[desh]

Stoops to Kentucky looks official.

Mark?

 

[mre]

Mark?

BOB!

 

[Talon]

I think this is the other, other Stoops.

...wait, what? Why?

 

[Draxal]

BOB!

Maurice.

 

[Lonestar]

The schools in the "white"/upper-middle class/upper class suburbs around Birmingham, Mountain Brook, Vestavia Hills, Homewood, etc., are top notch and have always done well in events like that.

They pool all the state resources into those schools, and damn everyone else. Hence the education stigma!

 

[mre]

Maurice.

He's just a cousin, though. Not really "one of the Stoops."

They pool all the state resources into those schools, and damn everyone else. Hence the education stigma!

While an overtatement when looking at the education of the state as a whole, I think they definitely thrive at the expense of Jefferson County as a whole.

 

[LosDaddie]

Still. OSU beat ULL 65-24.

UF also nearly lost to Mizzou at home, which is almost as bad.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, but at the end of the day, UF is 11-1 and they play in the SEC. That's real good.

This is exactly what happened. Muschamp had our number and he had the soft late-season SEC schedule to help him slip FSU reps in for at least a few days during those weeks' practices. Plus, EJ managed to completely fuck up everything the one time it mattered the most. It's odd, because he usually does that against lesser opponents (NC State). He's typically good on the "big stage" (took down ND with a fucking broken leg last year). Of course he would fold to Florida on senior day though.

Most of the blame has to be on the OFfense, especially EJ. The OL got dominated, and EJ made some terrible decisions. He just isn't all that good, and doesn't want to use his legs. Watching him, the senior leader on the team, go out and lay an egg demoralized the team. The Defense gave up in the 4th qtr.

Also, LosDaddie, you were scarily accurate in your pre-season prediction.

All praise be to Allah Bud Elliot. My pre-season prediction was based on all the Tomahawknation team coverage. Bud is one of the best in the industry. My opinion of Warchant was sunk dramatically. They may be too close to the university to give honest opinions.

Hey, at least it's better than where we've been in the past 7 years.

indeed

 

[krzy123]

South Carolina was #3 in total defense last year with him as DC, and EJ was the point man for recruiting Clowney. He'll find work!

Also, JESUS MIKE LONDON WHAT ARE YOU DOING:

(via)

Well to be fair, Mike London's offense has only scored 14 pts against total the past 3 years, so maybe using two timeouts to ice the kicker was the best plan. Well they did drive in score last minutes of the game in 2010 to make it 37-7, wasn't that confident this time around I guess.

 

[squicken]

Mike Stoops has said he made a huge mistake taking AZ job b/c program was so far from competing. You'd think his brother wouldn't have made the same mistake

 

[bachikarn]

The schools in the "white"/upper-middle class/upper class suburbs around Birmingham, Mountain Brook, Vestavia Hills, Homewood, etc., are top notch and have always done well in events like that.

Back in the day, my HS used to be pseudo- rivals with Vestavia in math competitions.

 

[Karakand]

Back in the day, my HS used to be pseudo- rivals with Vestavia in math competitions.

 

[LosDaddie]

Mike Stoops has said he made a huge mistake taking AZ job b/c program was so far from competing. You'd think his brother wouldn't have made the same mistake

MOTHERFUCKER

My way-too-early 2013 FSU prediction: 8-4

 

[GoldenEye 007]

MOTHERFUCKER

My way-too-early 2013 FSU prediction: 8-4

Is he coaching the CCG? Should FSU be on watch for GT now...

 

[NewLib]

Guys Kentucky has given the SEC it's greatest gift. A Stoops to beat up on

 

[Cyan]

First blood!

Updated list:

ACC
Boston College
NC State

B1G
Purdue

Pac-12
Cal
Colorado

SEC
Arkansas
Auburn
Kentucky - Mark Stoops (DC, FSU)
Tennessee

Mid-Majors
Idaho
Southern Miss
UTEP
Western Michigan

 

[Cyan]

P.S. Guess who's joining the WAC! Yep, obviously it's Grand Canyon University. What? What do you mean you've never heard of them? They're an up and coming program!

Grand Canyon will become the sixth member of the conference in 2013-14, joining California State University, Bakersfield; the University of Idaho; New Mexico State University; Seattle University and Utah Valley University.

Good God that's a pathetic list. Kind of sad how many crappy programs the WAC is cozening into losing money in DI.

 

[BertramCooper]

P.S. Guess who's joining the WAC! Yep, obviously it's Grand Canyon University. What? What do you mean you've never heard of them? They're an up and coming program!

Good God that's a pathetic list. Kind of sad how many crappy programs the WAC is cozening into losing money in DI.

Just looked it up on Wikipedia.

It's a for-profit. Jesus Christ.

 

[Lonestar]

Went to lunch, come back to see the Stoop news is true???

 

[cdyhybrid]

P.S. Guess who's joining the WAC! Yep, obviously it's Grand Canyon University. What? What do you mean you've never heard of them? They're an up and coming program!

Good God that's a pathetic list. Kind of sad how many crappy programs the WAC is cozening into losing money in DI.

Seattle U used to be a pretty good basketball school!

That John Embree press conference is depressing as fuck. Embree got screwed but he wasn't going to fix Colorado. Their problems are bigger than the head coach.

 

[KingGondo]

I guess the logic of going to Kentucky is that if you can even make a bowl game, you're probably in good shape to be hired to a better job.

But surely defensive coordinator at FSU is a better job than HC at Kentucky.

 

[cdyhybrid]

I guess the logic of going to Kentucky is that if you can even make a bowl game, you're probably in good shape to be hired to a better job.

But surely defensive coordinator at FSU is a better job than HC at Kentucky.

I'd agree with the bolded.

All he has to do is schedule 4 cupcakes OOC and upset two in conference. Which is probably not doable at Kentucky, but still.

 

[Lonestar]

I guess the logic of going to Kentucky is that if you can even make a bowl game, you're probably in good shape to be hired to a better job.

But surely defensive coordinator at FSU is a better job than HC at Kentucky.

Probably, but hey, if he does marginally well, he'll be that much closer to getting a major HC job somewhere.

While an overtatement when looking at the education of the state as a whole, I think they definitely thrive at the expense of Jefferson County as a whole.

They aren't the only ones that have that sort of racket in Jefferson County :/

 

[andycapps]

I'd agree with the bolded.

All he has to do is schedule 4 cupcakes OOC and upset two in conference. Which is probably not doable at Kentucky, but still.

Even in the SEC you can't schedule 4 cupcakes OOC. As far as I know, they play Louisville every year. Keep in mind also that those cupcakes have given Kentucky trouble in the past. Even 4 wins is not a guarantee there. Though if he can get them bowl eligible, they should be happy. I don't know why any coach that had aspirations of success would go there. Much better to go to a mid-major, bring them to success and then make the jump to a BCS program.

 

[Lonestar]

Even in the SEC you can't schedule 4 cupcakes OOC. As far as I know, they play Louisville every year. Keep in mind also that those cupcakes have given Kentucky trouble in the past.

recent past even. Western Kentucky.

 

[ascii42]

I'd agree with the bolded.

All he has to do is schedule 4 cupcakes OOC and upset two in conference. Which is probably not doable at Kentucky, but still.

Depends on how long it takes for Tennessee to get better. Depending on their west schedule, they could get a lousy Arkansas and Auburn as well. Beat those and Vandy, and you've got yourself a pretty good season.

 

[andycapps]

recent past even. Western Kentucky.

True. It's a program that has never had any success whatsoever, so it's just a dead end job to me. I'm sure that like most people, he thinks he can work a miracle. He just doesn't know how bad what he's working with will be.

Depends on how long it takes for Tennessee to get better. Depending on their west schedule, they could get a lousy Arkansas and Auburn as well. Beat those and Vandy, and you've got yourself a pretty good season.

Credit James Franklin, but after the top 6 in the SEC, it's pretty much just Vandy that is a decent program. That feels weird to say it, but he's done better there than Precious did at Tennessee or than Phillips did at Kentucky.

So basically, if they beat Vandy next year, I'd consider that an upset.

 

[ascii42]

True. It's a program that has never had any success whatsoever, so it's just a dead end job to me. I'm sure that like most people, he thinks he can work a miracle. He just doesn't know how bad what he's working with will be.

There was that one time they beat future national champion LSU.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Even in the SEC you can't schedule 4 cupcakes OOC. As far as I know, they play Louisville every year. Keep in mind also that those cupcakes have given Kentucky trouble in the past. Even 4 wins is not a guarantee there. Though if he can get them bowl eligible, they should be happy. I don't know why any coach that had aspirations of success would go there. Much better to go to a mid-major, bring them to success and then make the jump to a BCS program.

(insert joke about Louisville being a cupcake and/or joke about BEAST here)

I agree he should have gone to a mid major. I'm surprised he took a head coaching job because I have never heard his name mentioned, but that might be because I'm living on the other side of the country. Although I guess a marquee name wouldn't take the Kentucky job anyway.

 

[Cyan]

Even in the SEC you can't schedule 4 cupcakes OOC.

You can get pretty close! The usual formula is two Sun Belt cans and a I-AA at home, and then a home/home or neutral site game against a better team.

If they're stuck playing Louisville every year, that makes it a bit harder. Luckily their cross-division "rival" is Cowbell U, and Franklin will probably be out of Vandy soon. That's two winnable games, and then you just need a lucky upset to get bowl-eligible.

 

[Garryk]

There was that one time they beat future national champion LSU.

Wasn't in regulation. Doesn't count.

 

[andycapps]

There was that one time they beat future national champion LSU.

You just mentioned the one bright spot in the history of their football program.

You can get pretty close! The usual formula is two Sun Belt cans and a I-AA at home, and then a home/home or neutral site game against a better team.

If they're stuck playing Louisville every year, that makes it a bit harder. Luckily their cross-division "rival" is Cowbell U, and Franklin will probably be out of Vandy soon. That's two winnable games, and then you just need a lucky upset to get bowl-eligible.

Scheduling Sun Belt teams is no different than Big 10 schools playing MAC teams. I thought when we were talking about scheduling cupcakes that we were talking about D2 schools.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Is Jared Lorenzen the greatest Kentucky football alum?