This can't be quoted enough. Amazing.
Geoff Keighley will be responding to Doritosgate
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This can't be quoted enough. Amazing.
Does Seacrest calls himself a journalist? Cos Geoff does.
Perfection.
ElectricBlanketFire
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The only conclusion I can come to from this whole thing is thank goodness that we don't have to rely on Geoff Keighley for anything.
Neogaf is a tremendous resource.
Neogaf is a tremendous resource.
This really is amazing. That being said, I think Geoff is a good guy. I respect him for holding Reggie's feet to the fire re: "It's not the same game." And he's one of the few TV gaming personalities who isn't a douche.
I am oblivious to this interview. Do you know where I may find it?
FlashbladeGAF
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Just because it's all we got doesn't make it good.
It just fills the empty video game whole that we have
The Spike VG awards are a joke. Regardless of quality if it didn't sell a couple million dollars it aint getting nominated.
Bonus round is only interesting when you have someone who isnt afraid to speak their mind. Geoff doesnt ask anything deep enough to really get to the meat of the converastion. The other guests are the ones that bring out the really good conversations amongst each other.
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Hilarious.
Vermillion
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No one you mentioned are/were journalists.
The funny part is that Geoff actually has a Gaf account.
The really funny thing is that Geoff has been secretly working as an undercover investigative journalist, only pretending to be a shill while building an in-depth expose spanning 3 years, 35 publishers and untold millions in hush money, bribes, fake reviews and corruption. Not only will it blow the doors off the "gaming industry", it will shake the entire community to the core, winning him a Pulitzer and changing the way games are built, marketed and sold forever.
Just you watch. He has a lot to say.
BibiMaghoo
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I don't think Geoff has anything to answer for really.
On the other hand, I would like to hear what he has to say on the matter, considering someone lost their job and another had a career ruined by that picture.
On the other hand, I would like to hear what he has to say on the matter, considering someone lost their job and another had a career ruined by that picture.
Image fails. The pope is catholic and the lord's prayer ends after deliver us from evil for catholics. #falseidol
EdibleExplosives
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Amen.
Godlike.
Actually, the congregation stops at deliver us from evil, then it continues:
/Raised Catholic
//Mess it up every time I go to a Protestant church now
///But not as bad as I mess up the Apostle's Creed!
OT: I was watching the CBS morning news this... morning. Right in the middle of the weather broadcast, an ad for some store. What happened to journalistic integrity? Someone get me my fainting couch!
Ryu Hayabusa
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Is Killer Instinct
PetriP-TNT
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Perfect
Raised Catholic and have never learned or said that. (Haven't gone to church in 15years)
Sweet mother of mercy. I'm cracking up here, and my GF wants to know what's so funny. How do I explain I am laughing at a man with a Dorito on his head. HELP.
LightofRohan
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Ya guys are such dicks about Geoff. He's seriously one of the nicest guys I've met in the industry (a few times) and I'm really glad he's able to be out there and help talk for the industry at times. The guy puts himself into the bellys of what makes our industry look like shit, in order to perhaps make them better. But gets pestered like he's the one doing it...
Watch the VGA's before he tried cleaning it up a bit... it's still shameless and embarrassing, but it's the oscars now compared to what it once was.
Show starts, "GAME OF THE YEAR MADDEN!!!" Never forget.
Watch the VGA's before he tried cleaning it up a bit... it's still shameless and embarrassing, but it's the oscars now compared to what it once was.
Show starts, "GAME OF THE YEAR MADDEN!!!" Never forget.
By shamelessly promoting Doritos and Moutain Dew?
I am not seeing the critical angle here. What is Geoff challenging?
He may be nice but he also Mr. Status Quo.
LightofRohan
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It's a job. Im sure you work and do dumb shit you wish you didn't have to from time to time... but I'm glad you seemingly base a guys entire reputation on one aspect.
And I was referring to mainly the VGA's and trying to fix that crap-hole up. As well as countless of News show interviews where they pin gaming as a great evil and he tries and defend the industry from their stupidity. The guy is not a perfect saint, but crap there are a ton of other "journalists" and such that deserve to be shit on way before Geoff.
Also, has his response about the matter been posted yet?
TheContact
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I love this haha
Theonik
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New Wallpaper get.
I love Doritos and Mountain Dew, myself. In fact, I plan to glue a bunch together and try to shape them into a pope cap so I can wear it proudly while eating them and playing games.
theSlacker
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At least make an attempt to read the thread. It is a funny picture and amusing situation that led to a lot of funny edits.
Whaat, no way! I know pachter hangs around here sometimes, but not geoff.
polyh3dron
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My god the DoritoPope prayer has me laughing too much, coworkers are all WTFing @ me
Suburban_Nooblet
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Where do you work?
Yep he has.
I have to say that like the rest of you, I am enjoying the image manipulation and the prayer thoroughly. However, I do feel bad for Geoff because it has become a touch mean spirited. It's as if we are taking out a chunk of the frustration over the shitty game journalistic integrity situation out on him.
That said, the picture of him beside Doritos and Dew encapsulated the issue into a single image perfectly.
Refreshment.01
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Even at the golden age of game magazines i figure out myself the hole teathrics of the show. However, i don't get why some guys are biting Keighley's neck. The guy does a good job representing the videogame audience, has presense and pretty much doesn't convey a bad archetype of what gamers are. Plus hr has "some" good interviews with developers under his belt.
Regarding the "shameful" advertising, is not like he pretended to be/do otherwise. I kind of think there's a bit of envy on how succesful he is. Maybe im wrong though.
Regarding the "shameful" advertising, is not like he pretended to be/do otherwise. I kind of think there's a bit of envy on how succesful he is. Maybe im wrong though.
Gsak
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So because Geoff doesn't "pretend otherwise", it justifies being in bed with PR/Marketing?
This happens in other industries too, but few do it so blatantly as the vg industry. Which goes to show how much they respect the gamers themselves. Not that the gamers don't have their fault in this. To be honest, we are mostly to blame.
When we act immaturely, then we get treated likewise.
This happens in other industries too, but few do it so blatantly as the vg industry. Which goes to show how much they respect the gamers themselves. Not that the gamers don't have their fault in this. To be honest, we are mostly to blame.
When we act immaturely, then we get treated likewise.
Refreshment.01
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Well yes, lack of sincerity is pretty much the hole problem in a nutshell. Back in the days when the videogame coverage guys pretended to be journalists they concealed the inner workings of the beast, basicaly being a bunch of hypocrates, to the point of some magazines guys writing big editorials of how their integrity wasn't for sale and how they turned down big advertasing money in order to side with the gamer, which was always in their hearts.
But it doesn't matter really, the other bulk of the blame falls in the shoulders of gamers which consume this type of content. If there wasn't any demand you wouldn't have these guys making a living by being echo chambers for big companies.
Keighley, as far as i know, never denied any heavy ties with companies. As a matter of fact a lot of the content he produces works out as infomercials or hype machines. However, this don't overshadow some of the good stuff he produces. Plus the GT site has content with good production values or at least better than what the competition offers.
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Gsak
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The simple truth is that we, the gamers, got what we wished for: Gaming became mainstream.
Thus, we got everything that comes along with that transition.
Refreshment.01
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Well, but the thing is, alternatives do exist. So for people more discerning or informed, like presumably a good shunk of this forum, those are within reach.
Toasting Keighley so much seems not so fair to me while others get a free pass.
Edit: And i never understood why so many gaming guys always seeked the aproval for their hobby. Never understood that obsesion.
Too bad we don't work in the public eye--and if we did you fucking better believe I'd think twice about EVERYTHING I was asked to do to protect my reputation.
Refreshment.01
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But not everyone shares that state of mind Gsak, some see it as a crusade against his persona.
Bolded what's pretty much my point of view.Darknessbea said:
Puppet Shadow
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No, that isn't the issue. The original picture was mentioned in the article by Rab that got the whole ball rolling, and Gaf just had fun with the picture... as it tended to symbolize the too cozy relationship with the industry PR and game journalists. In that thread (and this one as well) most people here don't really have a problem with Geoff specifically (he's just doing his spokesperson for hire thing which he's up front about), it's just that the original picture captured the issue so perfectly.
What's kinda funny is that aside from being the Ryan Seacrest of gaming, Geoff is actually one of the industries better writers.
LightofRohan
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What reputation? You guys all hated him before this anyways. And he was asked to do a segment where he talks about games I believe... I'm sure last minute they threw some Mt. Dew in there, you don't just walk out of a paying job for that.
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