zyxwvu4321
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The folks in Nashville begin to celebrate.
College Football Week 14 - Conference Championship Games and Pseudo Championships
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The folks in Nashville begin to celebrate.
Academics would be a nice thing, but if they go after any teams at this point, I doubt it's both Duke and UNC. UNC and VA Tech are still going to be the ones they go after, IMO.
What more Academic cache do we need? We've already got the Harvard of the South with Georgia and the Cambridge of the Americas in Mississippi State.
Don't they realize what will happen if he gets the munchies?
Is this an Avalanche Joke?
I'm taking it as an Avalanche Joke.
Mark Mangino slips while on the sky slopes and rolls down the mountain. Boulder will never be the same.
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Hey now, Vandy refers to themselves as the Harvard of the South. I think our dumbass AD envisions us more as the Brown of the south.
Auburn would probably be the Grand Canyon University of the SEC. Or the California of the SEC.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Boulder does have the highest grossing Taco Bell in the country.
But won't he blow an artery at altitude?
Make it happen.
Guess they figure it is all or none. Or figure once football season is over no will watch the SEC network and are trying to figure out how to fix that.
ChiTownBuffalo
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I'm not interested in seeing Baby Mangino pictures in Colorado gear.
Sirpopopop
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Wonder if L'Ville will ever see the ACC or will they just pull a TCU and go to the B12.
I put the odds of the above scenario happening at 30%.
I put the odds of the above scenario happening at 30%.
GoldenEye 007
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That is pretty crazy. Has K-State won a bowl in the BCS era? I know they won the Fiesta in like 1997 or something but I don't think the BCS was in effect until 1998.
Edit: Sirpopopopop, I bet a lot of further development hinges on the ACC lawsuit against Maryland. If they get that fee down to $20-$25m, other schools are gone too.
I assumed that was why you added A&M, considering they're very close to being the highest academically-ranked school in the SEC.
MightyHealthy
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There's no question that replacing Maryland with Louisville was probably one of the better moves in the realignment.
Whereas Aresco touted Tulane in a way that admitted the Big East doesn't just want to be a stepping stone conference...it wants to be THE stepping stone conference.
Whereas Aresco touted Tulane in a way that admitted the Big East doesn't just want to be a stepping stone conference...it wants to be THE stepping stone conference.
Sirpopopop
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That fee isn't going to stand up in court.
Neither will a GOR for that matter.
However, the difference between let's say the B12 & the ACC is that Texas/Oklahoma want to make the B12 work. FSU/Clemson are tired of the Carolina mafia screwing them over.
Edit: Healthy - From an athletics standpoint, maybe... Problem is that you guys are located in Kentucky. ACC should have added all three of Cinci/Louisville/UConn. Now there's a chance that when all the dominoes topple, the Big East could be the one backfilling with ACC teams and not the other way around. ACC should have just gone for the kill.
zyxwvu4321
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Yeah, I'd say that if the B1G, SEC, or Big12 poach any more schools from the ACC, Lville will tag along with whoever heads to the B12. But I'm starting to worry that the B12 really is stupid enough to stay at 10.
GoldenEye 007
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I don't think it has a lot to do with want. What else can the BE really do. Every time it makes a move to try to stabilize things, another team leaves or whatever.
Although Tulane is still completely blah. I kind of see their point with it. Good academic school in the AAU that could help replace the academic loss of Rutgers I guess. That plus they have been pouring money into athletics again since Katrina. Other than that, they're a blah to terrible athletic addition of course.
They probably want one or the other.
goldenticket
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im kinda starting to feel that way but not there yet. i have confidence in Bob Bowlsby he seems like a good dude, Dan Beebe was worthless. But from an article (i think posted recently in this thread) it was saying how florida state is sitting back to see if maryland can get out of the 50 million buyout and if they can then maybe it clears way for them and clemson to the big 12.
Certainly didn't hurt, but I'd assume it had more to do with getting the future SEC network into Texas. They're 4th in the SEC according to US News.
We already know (from the TCU AD's slip-up earlier this year) that contact has been made between the conference and FSU, Clemson, and probably Miami. Also, the Big 12 has "Big 14" and "Big 16" already trademarked. Expansion is on their minds, but it has to be the right schools to make sense.
I think the best tactic would be for the Big 12 to poach 4 schools at once (say FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech) so they can stand up to the ACC together and negotiate the exit fee down.
We would add the Florida, Carolina, and Atlanta media markets, which is all this is about anyway.
zyxwvu4321
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I'm more concerned that it's Texas that wouldn't want to expand, and that TCU, TTU, and Baylor would vote along with them for whatever dumbshit reason.
Texas has no reason to want to expand, they're already making tons of money from LHN and their massive fanbase, and now they're a giant fish in a smaller pond than before.
The other schools stand to gain the most, I just hope Bowlsby can bring everyone to some kind of consensus.
zyxwvu4321
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Right. Texas wanting the best for Texas would be staying at 10. I would just hope that those other 3 schools would realize that, if worse comes to worst, they won't be hitching a ride on the Longhorn Express to Pac12land.
ChiTownBuffalo
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The funny thing to me is why the Big 8 didn't foresee how much the conference would become Texas' after the merger.
No current Big 12 school is in danger of leaving for at least a decade because of the grant of rights signed this year.
It's not the end of the world if we stay at 10, but since money is what this is all about I have a hard time believing the conference couldn't get a better TV deal by adding schools like FSU, Clemson, and Miami.
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ElectricBlue187
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So has anything actually happened? This conference realignment stuff always seems like way too much ado over nothing. Some tiny fraction of the teams mentioned actually end up doing anything.
goldenticket
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Yeah that would be good. Oklahoma and texas both have said they are happy at 10 but i think the way things are going the big 12 will have to expand to keep up.
Maryland left the ACC for the B1G
Louisville replaced them
Some school from New Jersey that nobody cares about joined the B1G
Tulane joined the BEast
Grand Canyon State (or whatever they're called) joined the WAC
Downright seismic shifts in the landscape, I tell ya.
What about VT instead of Miami ?
Can also add Middle Tennessee to CUSA now.
GoldenEye 007
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ACC suing Maryland to pay full exit fees too.
I would like that, but I always assumed VT would join the SEC. If anything I'd rather replace GT with VT.
Miami is a good school and still has a national brand in football.
It is clear that the Big 12 will invite ACC schools if Maryland gets out of paying 50 million dollars.
Maybe. I think there's a significant contingent within the conference that wants to stay put at 10.
that would be idiotic
yellowjacket25
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Based on what? Why didn't they just invite ACC schools before the 50 million dollar buyout was made? They had plenty of time.
Is the SEC-B12 bowl deal still contingent on the B12 team playing a conference championship game? Or did that all go out the window when they handwaved the champions bowl into the Sugar?
Fewer pieces of the pie to dole out, less risk of a Big 12 team being left out of the 4-team playoff due to a CCG upset...
From a fan's perspective, adding FSU, Clemson, Miami and VT/GT would be awesome. Tons of marquee matchups every week in football. I think it would increase the TV contract too--the only question is whether it would be enough to justify splitting the pie 14 ways instead of 10.
Good question. I honestly don't know. I hope so.mre said:
GoldenEye 007
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Look what happened to the BE after staying at 8 teams for so long...
Texas will get overruled if the ACC teams are in reaching distance in regards to the exit fee being reduced. No way it is smart for the Big XII to stay at 10 if pretty much all other conferences are at 14-16 schools.
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