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THQ Humble Bundle is up (THQ needs your money lol)

Humble Bundle inc. just shot themselves in the foot. I don't know how much the rest of you know about indie games (I'm an expert), but credibility and elitism are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in XBOX 360 where you can become successful by being an a******. If you screw someone over in indie games, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the indie gamers, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Humble Bundles, nor will they purchase any of THQ's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Humble has alienated an entire market with this move.

Humble Bundle inc, publicly apologize and cancel the "humble" THQ publisher bundle or you can kiss your business goodbye.

lol

and people are still falling for it
 
You dont have to add money to your Paypal. Just login and pay, they will charge your cc.

You don't have to. You can just click the button on the HB site and log into PayPal from there and it'll pay through your card indirectly. There's a fee because it's PayPal, but you don't need to actually add any money yourself.


What's PayPal balance for then? I've got 8 shekels in there, I guess that was taken when they needed to verify my credit card for the first time

Are there restrictions to the games working in certain countries? someone mentioned earlier that Saint's Row won't work in Germany
 
Argument from Simon Roth that people buy Humble to feel good about themselves is kind of interesting. People say that about the Fair Trade food movement, it's always chocolate, sugar, coffee, fruit.. nice things that feel good to eat. I still believe most people are buying them for the games.
 
More fun indie rage, love "BY DEVELOPERS FOR DEVELOPERS" guy, and two dudes taking the oportunity to advertize their games and indie royale.

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The thing is the humble bundle has been doing different things for a while now with mobile focused bundles and music and ebook stuff too.

Also, I'll give AAA games as much schtick as any other gaffer, but I am sick of this "us or them" mentality indies have. I would be more forgiving of it if this were EA or ATVI but this is THQ for crying out loud; a publisher on it's last legs who at least did try to make games that were different in the AAA marketplace.
 
Go ahead and slap me. I feel strongly about charity, so I donate the vast majority (often all) of my HIB purchases to charity. It's not out of hate or spite for the dev, it's just a priority thing. No one should be verbally beaten up for choosing to use the slider provided. If HIB meant "some proceeds go to charity" or "devs guaranteed minimum", they'd say that. If they wanted to establish a particular minimum price, they'd do that too. Instead, they have the system they have, and it works for everyone.

But beyond that, from a THQ context, if you calculate that their demise is imminent regardless of this, then the money you're pumping into the company essentially just compensates their creditors, rather than their staff. Giving to THQ in this way only "saves" them if you actually think they're going to make enough to come out of this alive.

If you want the games, you pay for the games. If you want to give to charity, give to charity. If you want the games and give to charity you give money to both. But to want the games and value it as $0 would be an insult imo. If you just wanted to give to charity, there's nothing stopping you from giving them money directly instead of having to use humblebundle to do it.
 
I think it's true that the spirit of the original HIB was to support developers directly. This is, of course, a very unusual Humble Bundle. Steam-only, Windows-only, and a corporate publisher. However, I think some context is required as well. We're dealing with a seriously ill publisher--there are probably developers who have participated in the Humble Bundle who are more well capitalized than THQ. So it's not, like, a corporate monolith by comparison. I guess the debate is more about whether or not HIB is at least partially a refutation of the publisher model? I think a lot of indie developers view it that way, but a lot of customers probably don't feel so strongly.

I do think there's a legitimate debate to be had. I don't think this opens the door to Humble Bundle EA next week. I don't think it undermines previous work by Humble Bundles to create a safe and viable business outlet for indies. I don't think it undermines the Humble Store. I don't think it makes them hypocrites. It might be a bad decision, but I think the extenuating circumstances are the reason why it happened.

Another thing to consider is that THQ isn't in such a bad way because their developers made bad games. They've got some of the best games under their belt, but through what I guess you could consider piss poor business management they have dug themselves into this hole. So are they exploiting their developers (and the humble bundle program) to make up for their mistakes? Or do they, as in THQ, deserve the help? I don't know how you can deserve to sell your products, but maybe they should give some of these devs the chance to sign on with a publisher that knows how to stay in business?

Although you could argue that maybe under a different publisher the devs wouldn't have been able to make the great games that they have.
 
If you want the games, you pay for the games. If you want to give to charity, give to charity. If you want the games and give to charity you give money to both. But to want the games and value it as $0 would be an insult imo. If you just wanted to give to charity, there's nothing stopping you from giving them money directly instead of having to use humblebundle to do it.

then whats the reasoning behind giving you the option to give 100percent to charity?
 
Hm, sure is taking a while for my mail to arrive with the keys. Anyone else waiting? Don't believe I mistyped my e-mail address.
 
Metro 2033 alone is worth the beat-the-average price.

Great deal. Bought it, all of the money went to THQ.

Hm, sure is taking a while for my mail to arrive with the keys. Anyone else waiting? Don't believe I mistyped my e-mail address.
Got mine right away. Check with Humble support chat if you think something's gone wrong.
 
If you want the games, you pay for the games. If you want to give to charity, give to charity. If you want the games and give to charity you give money to both. But to want the games and value it as $0 would be an insult imo. If you just wanted to give to charity, there's nothing stopping you from giving them money directly instead of having to use humblebundle to do it.

But by using Humblebundle you are giving to charity AND getting games. Why can't you have both?
 
I really can't imagine how people are upset about this. I'll definitely be kicking some money THQ's way.

This isn't a company exploiting "indie" to churn massive profits, this is just a company just trying to survive. Doesn't seem that different to the starving indies, except a lot more people will be impacted if THQ starves.
 
I just erased quite a post about indies, but I'd rather not insult anyone. I hope they understand. People's jobs are on the line. No more Darksiders, no more Metro (unless they find another publisher), no more Company of Heroes, no more Homefront if the company goes down under and not another publisher rises its finger to help.

Those indies seem to think they're the best for giving the finger to these 'big corporations', but lets be honest, THQ is no big corp. their freaking shares are at 1 dollar each! Now think about this for a second: next-gen IS on us, there's nothing to prevent it, and THQ has to either adapt or go broke, so the real question is whether or not they can get the capital to adapt, but can they? Can they actually show investors that they can turn around and make good profit?

Anyway, shame I don't have a CC or I would buy this in a heartbeat, I don't have any of those games! Would love to help THQ (and the charities too).
 
If you want the games, you pay for the games. If you want to give to charity, give to charity. If you want the games and give to charity you give money to both. But to want the games and value it as $0 would be an insult imo. If you just wanted to give to charity, there's nothing stopping you from giving them money directly instead of having to use humblebundle to do it.

There's nothing stopping you from doing that through the HB either, so then why is it established that way?

You see it as an insult to "value" the games at $0, people who do it see it as a token of appreciation (receiving the games in return) for giving to a charity. If you don't like the system, then don't participate in it. The HB guys established it like that for a reason, and that reason is to let the people paying decide. Why then do you not value their decision?
 
Hm, sure is taking a while for my mail to arrive with the keys. Anyone else waiting? Don't believe I mistyped my e-mail address.

Check your history and go to the last page of Humble Bundle after the payment, there should be a link that goes to the keys.
 
Cool bundle, didn't own any of the games though I rented SR3 through redbox. Will be nice to have a PC copy now that I have a good PC. Have been meaning to checkout Darksiders so couldn't have asked for a better deal on getting it.

Hoping the other Red Faction game is an eventual bonus game.

Poor THQ...
 
If you don't need your SR3 key PM me. I have a few Steam keys I could trade for it (Commandos, Superbrothers, Avadon, Cogs, etc.)
 
I hope for Homefront,RF Guerillia and Titan Quest. Supreme Commander or Saints Row 2 would be cool too. Darksiders 2 and/or the whole Warhammer series would be tooo good to be true.
 
This isn't a company exploiting "indie" to churn massive profits, this is just a company just trying to survive. Doesn't seem that different to the starving indies, except a lot more people will be impacted if THQ starves.

Yea, this is my take on it too. This is a dying company's last little hurrah for its games, allowing everyone to play some of THQ's best before they fade away and everything is split up or lost forever (some of these games may even never be sold again when THQ dies)

Had this been HumbleEA bundle, yea, I probably wouldn't think too much like it, but this is a once top of the world publisher now on its deathbed, and the situation is very different. THQ has more in common with indies now than it ever did before.

Would they object to Minecraft being in a HB? Minecraft is a huge franchise with an insane revenue stream and a world wide phenomena.
 
I went ahead and bought this bundle. Just for Saints Row the Third this bundle is worth it. I am also glad they included all those Company of Heroes games :)
 
I just erased quite a post about indies, but I'd rather not insult anyone. I hope they understand. People's jobs are on the line. No more Darksiders, no more Metro (unless they find another publisher), no more Company of Heroes, no more Homefront if the company goes down under and not another publisher rises its finger to help.

Those indies seem to think they're the best for giving the finger to these 'big corporations', but lets be honest, THQ is no big corp. their freaking shares are at 1 dollar each! Now think about this for a second: next-gen IS on us, there's nothing to prevent it, and THQ has to either adapt or go broke, so the real question is whether or not they can get the capital to adapt, but can they? Can they actually show investors that they can turn around and make good profit?

Anyway, shame I don't have a CC or I would buy this in a heartbeat, I don't have any of those games! Would love to help THQ (and the charities too).
Not really a big fan of THQ games but I definitely don't want them closing down. The less game devs out there the worse the state of gaming. As much as I want indie devs to be successful, if I had to choose between games like VVVV and Far Cry 3, I would pick the AAA title any day.
 
There's nothing stopping you from doing that through the HB either, so then why is it established that way?

You see it as an insult to "value" the games at $0, people who do it see it as a token of appreciation (receiving the games in return) for giving to a charity. If you don't like the system, then don't participate in it. The HB guys established it like that for a reason, and that reason is to let the people paying decide. Why then do you not value their decision?



Very well put. Kudos.

Telling people how to spend their money and insinuating that people are making a bad decision is by giving any or all of the proceeds to charity is not only insulting, but it's in very poor taste.
 
How exactly does this hurt indie devs?

Some people need to grow up and stop being whiny little bitches.

BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TO DEVELOPERS AND WAAHHH IT AIN'T COOL ANYMORE.

Personally noting any indies complaining about it and not buying any of their games.
 
Oh come on, I had just reduced my backlog quite a lot and now this. Damn. At least I don't care for CoH, but Saints Row, Metro and Darksiders are interesting.

Edit: I can't activate Saints Row in Germany, would this be doable with gifts?
 
I have a extra code without Saint's Row.

Ha, I have a $2 Amazon card I can give you for that. :P

I'm not really interested in Saint's Row and Red Faction, and I own Darksiders and Metro already. I only want the CoH games since they interest me, but I had never played them.
 
Really not sure what the fuss is about. I don't see how Humble Bundle helping a publisher that's in pretty desperate need of some sort of lifeline precludes or undermines any future deals they may have with other indie developers. I thought we were moving away from such a tribalist mentality.

$15 all to THQ, because they own a lot of very talented studios and I think it would be a shame to see that get broken up. That's not a statement for or against 'big publishers', just trying to do my part to save a company that I'm a fan of.
 
Cool bundle, didn't own any of the games though I rented SR3 through redbox. Will be nice to have a PC copy now that I have a good PC. Have been meaning to checkout Darksiders so couldn't have asked for a better deal on getting it.

Hoping the other Red Faction game is an eventual bonus game.

Poor THQ...

I'm hoping Darksiders II is a bonus. A guy can dream....
 
I used the resend key function and I didn't get SR3 even tho I paid above the average. Anyone else got the same issue?
 
I don't really care who gives what amount to whom because every party involved was aware of this condition before they entered the deal.

But don't be surprised if people call you out for being a dick about it.
 
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