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[thezerofire]

I would fucking die to play Halo maps like that.

Mirror's Edge also has the help of dat lighting, but Halo 4's lighting is nothing to scoff at either. An editor like that could crank out maps like nothing, it'd be just like Forge but no weird pieces that are awkward to use.

Is that the one that lets you see the position of the last guy that killed you?

Remember how we freaked out about that one?

Oh how petty our worries were...

But to be honest, this game is NOT balanced. There are useless perks (grenadier) while things like dexterity are just WAY OP.

that was also before we learned that picking up the flag put a permanent waypoint over your head

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

If you're a bad player who wants to abuse instant respawns, I could see how one would love to hunt a player they've already drained the shields of.

Is that the one that lets you see the position of the last guy that killed you?

Remember how we freaked out about that one?

Oh how petty our worries were...

But to be honest, this game is NOT balanced. There are useless perks (grenadier) while things like dexterity are just WAY OP.

It lasts maybe 3 seconds. On a big map its completely useless. Shit on Haven its useless, you already know where you died.

 

[enzo_gt]

DAMMIT WHERE'S MIRROR'S EDGE 2.

IMO it's only taking this long because they're waiting for people to completely forget how bad the story was in the last one so they can start anew and use the excess time to make the story good.

 

[Merguson]

Well the DLC looks like complete shit, good to see 343i has taken zero interest in community feedback.

Community: "we want smaller maps please"

343i: "THREE LARGE VEHICLE MAPS, COMING UP!"

I'm pretty confident that I am going to avoid purchasing this map pack. I hope a lot of you guys do the same and show 343i that we cannot just be fed more bullshit maps.

You cripple forge and file sharing, and the give us the fewest maps in a Halo game to date. Then your first round of DLC is this? Really..

Halo: Reach had 8 maps at launch.

Halo 4 had 10.

I'm excluding Forge World and and the Forge Maps Halo 4 had.

Just saying.

 

[wwm0nkey]

The Forge Epidemic Far Cry 3 review (Lots of map editor info)

Had no idea that this game had custom lobbies!

 

[JB1981]

BTB is the most popular playlist. I don't remember this being the case with Halos of old. It makes sense that their DLC is catering to the most populated playlist

 

[CrazedArabMan]

This game needs some serious work on the MP side.

 

[Devin Olsen]

Halo: Reach had 8 maps at launch.

Halo 4 had 10.

I'm excluding Forge World and and the Forge Maps Halo 4 had.

Just saying.

http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/13pgpj/halo_4_has_the_worst_map_selection_at_launch_here/

I would suggest giving this a read, it will make you realize the Halo 4 does indeed have the worst map selection to date.

 

[kittens]

And I might be ok with that. Haven is a good size. I would however just like to try a small map in H4. I want to try Midship.

Oh Midship, how I love you.

With how much I don't like Halo 4, I keep fantasizing that 343 will hear our cries, and release a "Halo Classic" game on XBLA, which would exist alongside but separate from Halo 4. Based off of Halo 2, with less aim assist and stuff. FFA, Team Slayer, BTB (including objective), CTF, KOTH, and Assault. Midship, Battle Creek, The Pit, Lockout, Haven (made a little smaller), Wizard, Countdown (I like Countdown, shut up), Valhalla, and a few more large maps and asymmetrical maps. And the return of a decent active roster.

I would cry tears of joy. Joy tears, everywhere. Never gonna happen, though.

 

[Havok]

BTB is the most popular playlist. I don't remember this being the case with Halos of old. It makes sense that their DLC is catering to the most populated playlist

Reach Big Team numbers were almost always up there with Living Dead and Team Slayer.

But even then, that's not the right way to look at it. Add up the numbers for every single 4v4/5v5/FFA list (of which there are currently nine) and then compare them to the sum of the two large player count per match playlists (Dominion and BTB), because that's how the map usage splits. The first group is currently at about 82k, while the second is at just 55k.

 

[willow ve]

Next week... Team Regicide.

I have no words for this.

 

[Tashi]

BTB is the most popular playlist. I don't remember this being the case with Halos of old. It makes sense that their DLC is catering to the most populated playlist

Do you think this DLC was made in the last 3 weeks?

There are also more playlists that feature the smaller maps in the game than the BTB ones.

 

[Redford]

Easier to make maps the larger they get, more room for abstraction and error. Sometimes though this results in POS like Complex, where just one dumb mistake (building 07) has the capacity to ruin the map.

Next week... Team Regicide.

I have no words for this.

Neither did I. Grifball, some idiot version of Oddball, okay. But taking away the only alternative FFA (which wasn't doing so hot because of no slayer) to replace it with a team version of a widely panned gametype.. Feels like they're fucking with me, this is Squad Slayer-type cut.

 

[Fotos]

Next week... Team Regicide.

I have no words for this.

When they first announced Regicide months back I thought that would be a great team game. Almost like VIP. I can't wait to see how it plays out.

 

[Havok]

When they first announced Regicide months back I thought that would be a great team game. Almost like VIP. I can't wait to see how it plays out.

I'm reserving judgment on Team Regicide until I play it because I think those mechanics will probably work better in a team context than FFA, but nothing with any degree of similarity to VIP can ever be spun in a positive light.

Because VIP was hot, smelly trash.

 

[Hydranockz]

Josh Holmes just posted this. Cyren must have missed it. He sure hates us all.

Grr. Mad.

 

[enzo_gt]

How did this Spartan Ops lag get through QA.

Holy shit. This is fucking unbearable and unplayable. No exaggeration, this is so fucking unacceptable.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Josh Holmes just posted this. Cyren must have missed it. He sure hates us all.

Grr. Mad.

He's talking about his steak.

 

[NullPointer]

http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/13pgpj/halo_4_has_the_worst_map_selection_at_launch_here/

I would suggest giving this a read, it will make you realize the Halo 4 does indeed have the worst map selection to date.

Seeing as how the majority of games are played with 8-10 players, committing to 6 maps that are designed for 12+ is ridiculous.

Is this true? I thought the most popular playlist is BTB, numbers wise.

Not to dismiss the complaints - more small maps and symmetrical maps would be great. Been shifting more from BTB to infinity slayer personally.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Maybe people are playing BTB cause the game has all BIG maps.

 

[Tashi]

He's talking about his steak.

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

 

[Hydranockz]

He's talking about his steak.

But, without context, everything can be taken as hating on the community. His mention of steak was a reference to Bungle. He burnt Luke's steak dinners man.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Maybe people are playing BTB cause the game has all BIG maps.

Seems logical. I'm playing IS mostly because I want to get better. And BTB is "easier" because you can nail people not focusing on you.

Otherwise I'd just stick to btb.

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

I want to hate you for this post.

But, without context, everything can be taken as hating on the community. His mention of steak was a reference to Bungle. He burnt Luke's steak dinners man.

Steaktastrophe!

 

[DeadNames]

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

Occasions like this are quite....

rare.

 

[Gray Man]

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

If anything it sure would be nice to have 343 at least tell us that they are listening to our feedback, or why they think things like Global Ordinance is a better option than Static Spawns.

I just want to hear them interact with community feedback more.

 

[zap]

Is this true? I thought the most popular playlist is BTB, numbers wise.

Not to dismiss the complaints - more small maps and symmetrical maps would be great. Been shifting more from BTB to infinity slayer personally.

BTB is the most popular playlist at the moment, but all of the other playlists range from 4v4-6v6

 

[Redford]

Is this true? I thought the most popular playlist is BTB, numbers wise.

Not to dismiss the complaints - more small maps and symmetrical maps would be great. Been shifting more from BTB to infinity slayer personally.

It is, but (I'm pretty sure) it doesn't outweigh the population of all the other 6v6 and under lists combined; BTB's population in any game hopefully shouldn't be interpreted as a signal for more big maps anyways.

 

[Korosenai]

Occasions like this are quite....

rare.

He must have just posted that picture by...

Mistake

 

[Hydranockz]

If anything it sure would be nice to have 343 at least tell us that they are listening to our feedback, or why they think things like Global Ordinance is a better option than Static Spawns.

I just want to hear them interact with community feedback more.

Feedback? Like wanting a CTCF hopper?

 

[Merguson]

http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/13pgpj/halo_4_has_the_worst_map_selection_at_launch_here/

I would suggest giving this a read, it will make you realize the Halo 4 does indeed have the worst map selection to date.

Ah, a matter of opinion regarding map selection.

But it's still a fact that Halo 4 has more maps at launch than Halo: Reach.

Also, one question. If he counts The Cage, why not the other Forge World variants? Why not the built-in variants for Halo 4?

Why count Forge World but not the three Forge Maps Halo 4 has?

Not trying to argue or anything, I'm just curious.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

He probably meant it as a joke without realizing what was at stake.

Ah, a matter of opinion regarding map selection.

But it's still a fact that Halo 4 has more maps at launch than Halo: Reach.

Also, one question. If he counts The Cage, why not the other Forge World variants? Why not the built-in variants for Halo 4?

Why count Forge World but not the three Forge Maps Halo 4 has?

Not trying to argue or anything, I'm just curious.

He also labels Boneyard as a "community favorite". I stopped reading there.

 

[rakka]

team regicide? what about just a fucking standard ffa slayer? or btb objective?

or a million other issues that could have been rectified or tweaked?

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Ah, a matter of opinion regarding map selection.

But it's still a fact that Halo 4 has more maps at launch than Halo: Reach.

Also, one question. If he counts The Cage, why not the other Forge World variants? Why not the built-in variants for Halo 4?

Why count Forge World but not the three Forge Maps Halo 4 has?

Not trying to argue or anything, I'm just curious.

Because they were in rotation in Reach but aren't in rotation in Halo 4?

Seems pretty obvious.

 

[Cheesecakebobby]

Hi guys, I live in Japan now and wondered if any Gaffers in the Asia region want to party up from time to time. All but one of my friends with the game live in the UK or US which means a lot of lag. On the plus side, the Japanese seem to mostly suck at Halo meaning that so far I get loads more kills then I used to

Additionally, I will be playing through campaign for the first time with my also-in-Japan buddy tomorrow from the morning. If a couple more want to join us then we welcome them too.

Gamertag is Hummus Erectus. Thanks

 

[Fracas]

Nah you don't get it. He understands us now. He has seen the importance of small maps. He's congratulating us on a job...well done

Ban +10

Occasions like this are quite....

rare.

Double Ban +15

He must have just posted that picture by...

Mistake

Triple Ban +20

He probably meant it as a joke without realizing what was at stake.

Overban +25


ORDNANCE READY

 

[Pop]

Bring back squad slayer?

I think it could work.

 

[Jack Scofield]

What's with the atrocious button layouts in this game? I want L1 to be jump, but the only layout that has this places sprint on A. What? Why can't I just switch L1 and A on the default layout?

 

[Redford]

Bring back squad slayer?

I think it could work.

Besides being 5v5 what would make it "Squad"? Just curious.

 

[Karl2177]

Ban +10

Double Ban +15

Triple Ban +15



Overban +20


ORDNANCE READY

lol That was pretty good.

 

[Hydranockz]

Gamertag is Hummus Erectus. Thanks

:lol

 

[Bregmann Roche]

ORDNANCE READY

Will you choose the Overshield, the pulse grenades, or the steaky detonator?

Would you guys rather have a port or house made map?

A1 quality post. A cut above the rest. Meat me somewhere.

 

[Tashi]

Would you guys rather have a port or house made map?

 

[Redford]

Would you guys rather have a port or house made map?

Should do a contest and have the winning forge map reskinned with a theme of the forger's choice. The selection process would be worrying though, depending on who's judging haha..

To answer the question I'd rather they keep trying until they can get one right, so in house ultimately.

You missed the joke.

Porterhouse.

Fuck.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Should do a contest and have the winning forge map reskinned with a theme of the forger's choice. The selection process would be worrying though, depending on who's judging haha..

To answer the question I'd rather they keep trying until they can get one right, so in house.

You missed the joke.

Porterhouse.

 

[kittens]

Besides being 5v5 what would make it "Squad"? Just curious.

Wait, are you talking about a Squad Slayer in Halo 4? Cause it wasn't the fact that Squad was 5v5 that made people like it in Reach. It was the superior settings. In H4, they could:
- Remove camo, jetpack, and PV.
- Static ordnance. No personal ordnance.
- Five second respawn.
- Match teams with teams.
- Perhaps stricter JIP limitations?

Other, more controversial possibilities:
- No DMR or Boltshot.
- Pre-made loadout options. No custom loadouts.

 

[Tawpgun]

Besides being 5v5 what would make it "Squad"? Just curious.

Has a lower BPM rate.

Spoiler

Bullshit per Minute

 

[Karl2177]

Has a lower BPM rate.

Spoiler

Bullshit per Minute

More FPM

 

[Merguson]

Because they were in rotation in Reach but aren't in rotation in Halo 4?

Seems pretty obvious.

He's still missing the Forge variants in Reach's rotation though.

I still don't consider them actual launch maps anyways. Anyone could have made those instead of Bungie in Forge.

 

[MinkTANK]

Occasions like this are quite....

rare.

It's good to.know that there's no..

beef

Spoiler

It works, fuck you. I'm funny.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

He's still missing the Forge variants in Reach's rotation though.

I still don't consider them actual launch maps anyways. Anyone could have made those instead of Bungie in Forge.

No one but Bungie's Reach crew could've made The Cage. It's a fixed point in time and space.

Yeah, I was just asking for a list of what would change that wouldn't make it just 5v5 Slayer Pro. Half of those should be MM wide so I just don't see the point in sending Squad out to die again.

Squad Slayer didn't die. It was murdered.