Wildstar75
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Yeah, all those should have came out this year. Sony needed those... Especially last of us.
NPD November 2012 Results [Up6: Black Ops 2, Halo 4, Most Wanted, Assassin's Creed 3]
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Yeah, all those should have came out this year. Sony needed those... Especially last of us.
I really expect a price cut by next fall to counter the new xbox.
Why is he even posting that?
GarthVaderUK
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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I doubt originality is coming back to retail. Budgets are going to be too big for retail for a lot of majorly new stuff to be approved by publishers. The smaller, downloadable area is where new ideas have gone and are probably going to stay.
Aquamarine
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Black Friday - 525K
Didn't use Wii + Vita - >630K through >645K
PS3 sales
Wii + NDS - <790K
Oof. That does bode well for the Halo 4 numbers now though at least in terms of being down, but in-line with everyone being down.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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Than it depends on what Microsft means for 'nearly'.
If PS3 sold 750k which sounds more reasonable considering the 525k units sold during BF, double that is 1.5m which in my mind is not nearly 1.26m.
But maybe I gave them too much credit for being realistic in their claims
i agree.. but if PS3 sold near 700K should be nearly enough to 1.26 (imho)
again.. without any concrete indication , it's just speculation
waiting for some Sony NPD Press release (if any)
SapientWolf
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I don't think there's a genre that the indies haven't been at least competent in.
James Sawyer Ford
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Closer to 790k. When cream sugar drops these sorts of hints they're usually right on the money.
Pretty good sales for both MS and Sony this November.
Wii U is going to have a really difficult uphill battle.
plantedunicorn
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Hmm, maybe EA now thinks Battlefield has a shot of dethroning COD. I don't see it happening though.
It might also be down because people didn't really like MW3 as much as BO.
I Know people say BO2 hurt Halo 4 and I agree with that and I also feel Halo 4 had an effect on BO2. I don't think it was a good thing that they released in the same month.
I agree that Sony isn't putting any pressure on MS.
My guess is that they release the xbox/win8 mediabox (non-gaming) in the first half of next year for $99, and then soft launch 720 proper nov/dec. I can see MS focusing on content delivery more than gaming going forward.
Sony's plans I'm not too sure about. I doubt they will be releasing a monster console. & I can see them waiting until the company as a whole is profitable before releasing their next console. I really doubt they want the PS4 to add to their debt. If things work out, mid 2014 seems pretty reasonable for their launch. There position in the market though...IDK.
Nintendo will have the low end, and MS will have the high end gaming + cheap mediabox, and Sony will have?? If they had the must-have IP of Nintendo, I'd feel alot more confident about the playstation future. As it is, I'm expecting Vita type success with the PS4.
Unless you have the numbers don't make statements like they're facts ...
All we have is 630k - 790k and MS saying 'nearly x2'
Conflict NZ
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Could we please get an approximation for Persona 4 Golden on Vita?
Father_Brain
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It's really that simple. If $200 bundles for Vita's biggest software releases (to date, in the foreseeable future, and likely ever) could only move 160K on Black Friday, how much good would a price cut next year do?
It had one week less in tracking though.
Well, they're planning to add Destiny into their mix starting next year, so they are at least proactive.
H_Prestige
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"nearly 2x" is a meaningless statement, unless there is some way to quantify "nearly".
vita wound up doing pretty well for itself. it's basically its launch month again, and those were decent numbers. we'll see how much better it can do. i was kinda surprised to see a pile of vita bundles haphazardly stacked on top of each other behind a display case at target yesterday. i wonder how many units sony stuffed down the channels.
James Sawyer Ford
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MS wants to stretch how well their console sold relative to the competition, I don't think cream sugar has an agenda. And, like mentioned, there's another combo he could have used if it indeed was closer to the 630K figure.
The PS3 black friday sales make sense in the context of ~790K sales, but not ~630K sales.
I was thinking PS3 could be 690~ and would be good enough to say nearly 2x... much more than 700 and that's a stretch
1.26 million half is 630 so 650 - 700~ would be about right
SolarPowered
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That CoD decline looks sharper than expected.
Yeah. It's a shame when they don't do blockbuster numbers.
grimshawish
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Yeah, November was probably hit to some degree by demand shortages just because of the very often replenishment rates in such a tiny space of time.
December should be unaffected. So no excuses there.
2013 it should do 'decent'. Depends on marketing.
EDIT: COD down alot - ouch. Poor Treyarch.
not too surprising about the wiiu number, it was sold out.
software wise, again launch of new system but the numbers should- overall- be decent.
and for those saying only ~270k for nsmbu...if the wiiu sells anywhere close to the wii, in 2 Years it still will be selling ~100k a month.
not worried about the wiiu number- for now check with me in 8 months
software wise, again launch of new system but the numbers should- overall- be decent.
and for those saying only ~270k for nsmbu...if the wiiu sells anywhere close to the wii, in 2 Years it still will be selling ~100k a month.
not worried about the wiiu number- for now check with me in 8 months
I didn't say CS had an agender, just that all he stated was it was under 790k. You're the one assuming here.
If it was 780k that's 1.52m. MS would surely just use marketshare rather than X2.
Even if PS3 did 790k, it's still under 1.26m with Wii combined so 50%+ marketshare (for current gen, which is totally what they're gonna tout next year)
Petrae
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If this is right, both are lower than MW3 last year:
MW3 (360): 5.2MM
MW3 (PS3): 3.2MM
Coldnoodle
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We're dying gaf...we are not long for this world.
CadetMahoney
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I don't think we'll find out either way.
How can two things be pretty good when one thing is almost double the other?
I never get this.
Randolph Freelander
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Yeah, so Halo 5 and Black Ops III can be massive disappointments.
terrisus
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It's probably not the case, but the "nearly" could be read as "We almost outsold all of the other consoles by 2x. The only thing that stopped us from outselling all the other consoles by 2x was the PS3, which sold 1 million." That is, the "nearly" could refer to the amount of systems that it did that to, not necessarily how close it came on the system it missed on.
That said, I'm assuming it's not exactly like that.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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It's also less than BLOPS 1, which did 4.9m+3.1m
i agree.. but if PS3 sold near 700K should be nearly enough to 1.26 (imho)
again.. without any concrete indication , it's just speculation
waiting for some Sony NPD Press release (if any)
I don't think we'll get a Sony press release
But if PS3 numbers were close to 700k, creamsugar would have used a different hardware combo like 3DS+Vita or 2*DS or simply would have stated <750k.
The 790k figure should be close enough to the actual number so Microsoft stretched the definition of 'nearly' just a bit
On BO2, I'm not sure what to say.
On the one hand, seven fewer days of sales. On the other, a game like that is so front-loaded. It would be really interesting to know precisely what the sales curve looked like.
Last year I read that Modern Warfare 3 did ~8.8m on 360+PS3. This numbers are accurate?
SniperHunter
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. They should have learned from MS, bailed out of this gen ASAP....
Aquamarine
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AND lower than the original Black Ops.
2009:
MW2 (360): 4.2MM
MW2 (PS3): 1.87MM
2010:
BO1 (360): 4.9MM
BO1 (PS3): 3.1MM
2011:
MW3 (360): 5.2MM
MW3 (PS3): 3.2MM
2012:
BO2 (360) ~4.5MM
BO2 (PS3) ~2.9MM
We're seeing a definite contraction of the franchise.
Infinite Justice
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looks like cream needs to place a constant in that PS3 sales list
like 700k or 750k?
like 700k or 750k?
CadetMahoney
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Portugeezer
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Not surprising after MW3 suckage, but BLOPS 2 also came out 5 days later than MW3 and I don't know when the cut off date for the NPD month was in 2011 so it could be the same amount of days.
speculawyer
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Yeah, I think the fact that Activision keeps referring to dollar amounts instead of number of copies may be a subtle clue. They now have the harded and care package ($250!) editions adding some extra money and a bit more desirable since they come with more game content instead of just tsotchkes.