She was also in Californication with an English accent, I saw her tits.
Anyway did anyone notice her accent at the VGA'S? it seems like she's lost her English accent after living in America, it sounds mixed like the Osbournes.
Tomb Raider VGA 'Survivor' Trailer
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She was also in Californication with an English accent, I saw her tits.
Anyway did anyone notice her accent at the VGA'S? it seems like she's lost her English accent after living in America, it sounds mixed like the Osbournes.
ElfArmy177
Member
Actually... now that Ive linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r8RXQ3ZDME
It really makes me miss old tomb raider... haha Loved Tomb Raider 2
I dont remember how many times I played that area over and over
It really makes me miss old tomb raider... haha Loved Tomb Raider 2
I dont remember how many times I played that area over and over
Is it "that or Uncharted" for you? I always thought the city dwelling phases of the old TRs were silly, and they were certainly not perfect games, but that doesn't mean that the alternative had to be the "kill 200 dudes-a-second" Uncharted approach, with setpieces all over the place.
And yeah, if every game needs to get the same type of audience to be worth making, close this shit down now.
I say do something interesting enough, managing your budget well (don't waste money on guided cinematic crap, for one) and you WILL find an audience, like Dark Souls and Dishonored did.
IHaveCandy
Banned
You know what this trailer made me think? An Uncharted game where you play as Drake still in his youth and learning the ropes could be pretty fun. Going from adolescent to young adult. But this game? Eh, I'm sure it will be a competent action/adventure game, but it doesn't really grab my attention with its "me too" antics.
ElfArmy177
Member
I agree with the dishonored or dark souls comment 100 percent. However, those were rather new IP's and a new IP will develop hype much faster than an old IP that has been rebooted.
Usually if its an older IP, it doesnt matter how good it may be, the idea of its past still lingers with people and they brush it off as "I never liked tomb raider" or "the other ones never interested me"
I think they could have added in some of this new stuff. Used the new combat, story and setpieces for something fresh and marketing purposes (I have seen quite a few people who weren't interested in the series before that are now with this new one). But still kept the focus largely on platforming/puzzle-solving. This reboot though seems to be a pretty drastic change don't you think? I feel like they could have split the difference a bit more at least. Maybe I will play it and think differently, but just based on what I've seen anyway.
ElfArmy177
Member
The other problem is a review. Most of the idiots that review games nowadays have no fucking idea what a video game used to be. Look at ZombiU for example. I thought the game was great - had its problems, but great. But comments such as "I cant kill zombies fast enough" or the recent Halo 4 "should be like CoD" makes these developers scared.
The other issue is Tomb Raider would sell, but not sell enough. They would probably break even, but that's about it. Personally I don't read too many reviews if I think the game looks good enough by previews and videos... hell look at my profile pic, that game had horrid reviews.
However others do, and when they see a poor score because the reviewer is a fuck-head that makes ignorant comments.. it turns them away from a purchase. This game having guns and silly "protect her" comments have probably given this game more spotlight than any other tomb raider.
I also believe it would have never generated so much coverage if it stayed true to its original formula.
The other issue is Tomb Raider would sell, but not sell enough. They would probably break even, but that's about it. Personally I don't read too many reviews if I think the game looks good enough by previews and videos... hell look at my profile pic, that game had horrid reviews.
However others do, and when they see a poor score because the reviewer is a fuck-head that makes ignorant comments.. it turns them away from a purchase. This game having guns and silly "protect her" comments have probably given this game more spotlight than any other tomb raider.
I also believe it would have never generated so much coverage if it stayed true to its original formula.
chickdigger802
Banned
Can someone avatarize this for me?
Love this shot:
they forgot to put in wet hair.
Or lara needs better conditioner.
To me the problem were publisher's expectations.
S-E had this huge franchise in its hands (which is admittedly one of the main reasons they bought Eidos in the first place) and of course they wanted it to get BIG.
Problem is, nobody gives a shit about TR anymore, aside from the fans, so there's very much the chance of pissing off that core fanbase aswell as not interesting the new one enough, that will see the next Naughty Dog game having yet more polish and name prestige than this one.
I'm sure they'll net some good sales, but i don't see this becoming a huge hit (though i'm usually very bad at this kind of predictions).
Then again, that never interested me in the first place, what gets me sad is that i have yet one peculiar franchise thrown into the blender, like we've seen multiple times already.
One different and interesting thing to play goes in, one copycat CoD/Uncharted wanna-be comes out.
But given the chance i'll still buy the next Naughty Dog game over their copycat attempt, so it's a lose-lose situation, really.
Oh and hey, meanwhile Naughty Dog is actually moving on, doing something that sounds genuinely interesting, from a game design perspective (Last of Us), that's how you stay n.1, really.
Raitosaito
Member
I think you are right this time.
To be honest, she was a mass murderer in all her games excluding TR1/Anniversary (in the first one she only killed 5 bosses, in the second one she only killed Larson, and then had trauma because of that). However, in previous games she was a strong, independent women who would do anything to get what she wants. Here, she is portrayed as a weak girl who is trying to survive, so constantly killing a lot of people looks weird and clashes with the character's image.
I wish Crystal Dynamics put only few human enemies there and turn the rest into animals or some kind of monsters (it's Tomb Raider, supernatural stuff happens all the time in the series).
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I kinda loved the demon Samurai. Hopefully it isn't like the Bullet Sponge end enemies in UC1 and UC2 (I actually dug UC3's end enemies, that was clever and cool).
I'm looking forward to the other demonic Japanese things that dwell on the island. Also, that plane that crashed in the trailer... I'm wondering if this like the island from Lost, people keep getting drawn and stranded there. There's at least two or three crashed planes (one looked like a WWII wreck) and ships going back centuries. I'm really interested in the history of the island. I hope they do a good job crafting that.
I'm really thirsty for a dark adventure game like this one seems to be shooting for.
Phonomezer
Banned
Hah, please, Drake's Fortune was the incredibly derivative baby of Marcus Fenix and Lara Croft.
Thematically, the Uncharted games are still doing what Tomb Raider did over a decade ago, just with larger budgets and better technology. Unfortunately for Uncharted, it'll never be as iconic.
1. So we have our young protagonist climbing up an antenna tower as bits fall off. Always making it just in time.
2. Then we had her and a buddy falling off a ledge, but she lands safely on the sole ledge.
3. Her about to crash into some trees, but the log she is on saves her, still goes over the waterfall.
4. Avoid the jagged rocks on the bottom by a foot.
5. Gets knocked into the old plane and bounced around from the rapids. While avoiding instant death while sliding down.
6. Manages to fucking parachute while falling out of an old plane
7. Parachutes while dodging trees
8. A plane gets struck by lightning and comes down to chase after her. Ends it by jumping off another cliff.
9. Explosions to helicopter jump!
They wanted a more realistic approach....
2. Then we had her and a buddy falling off a ledge, but she lands safely on the sole ledge.
3. Her about to crash into some trees, but the log she is on saves her, still goes over the waterfall.
4. Avoid the jagged rocks on the bottom by a foot.
5. Gets knocked into the old plane and bounced around from the rapids. While avoiding instant death while sliding down.
6. Manages to fucking parachute while falling out of an old plane
7. Parachutes while dodging trees
8. A plane gets struck by lightning and comes down to chase after her. Ends it by jumping off another cliff.
9. Explosions to helicopter jump!
They wanted a more realistic approach....
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
It's not realistic, but I guess it's more "grounded". These seem just like well-tread tropes of the adventure genre.
I know, that's the problem. We need artificial excitement. You know like when a ledge breaks in Uncharted. And Drake barely grabs hold. Or a brick falls. And then we'll see this repeated another few dozen times throughout the game. This seems to be taking it to the extreme. Everything seems to be a scene of her barely escaping scripted death.
Net_Wrecker
Member
It's a game where you shoot stuff...OF COURSE that guy is gonna be a sponge. That's like shooter trope 101 and this wouldn't be a good Uncharted clone without some sponges.
I already hate him on principle.
The game director said they didn't look much into other adventure games or movies, but rather read and talked with actual survivors, irl.
This is the result.
Callibretto
Member
She doesn't think she's that kind of croft.
Always-honest
Banned
Fuuuuck, i felt so clueless back then. Must have spent days there
She doesn't think she's that kind of croft.
She isn't, not till some guy tries to feel her up anyway at which point she apparently turns into that kind of croft and goes on to kill what will seemingly be a whole bunch of people.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
I never said Uncharted was original...
Fuuuuck, i felt so clueless back then. Must have spent days there
I remember that part from the demo. I've spent too much time thinking what should I do, because it didn't cross my mind to swim under the gate to the room with the boat.
Also, first time I collected a flare I thought it was a dynamite. So I used it, threw it and quickly jumped away waiting for an explosion :lol
pretty sure most people gaming before 2007 knows which came first.
not sure how that makes it invalid that new tr is taking cues from uncharted.
roofles people still ignoring the significance of Uncharted make me laugh, you might want to take a gander at what game all these other games, including your darling Tomb Raider, are trying to ape/copy.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
She was also in Californication with an English accent, I saw her tits.
Anyway did anyone notice her accent at the VGA'S? it seems like she's lost her English accent after living in America, it sounds mixed like the Osbournes.
No one loses their accent that quickly or thoroughly. She's clearly had accent training and is putting on an American accent either as practice for future work or to be more "accessible" to an American audience.
You can hear parts where she slips up and says some vowels in an English accent. People whose accents have changed over time are consistent in their different sounding vowels, while hers are erratic and stick out at odd times.
Age has a lot to do with it, if your a kid you can lose an accent quite quick. (I know from experience)
I have no idea how long she's been America for? Maybe she focuses more on the English accent for Californication, and the on stage VGA was her real new accent, or you might be right.
Kenshin001
Member
Big fan of the Uncharted series and this trailer piqued my interest but, yeah, the humour in Uncharted is part of the charm. Not writing this game off yet, it might have a bit of an identity crisis but I think it will be a solid game.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Turns out she watched a lot of American TV while growing up and imitated Ricki Lake and loved Dawson's Creek. So her American accent is closer than what you'd expect, though the Britishness still seeps through in parts.
So one scene she almost throws up from having to kill someone, and in the next you're performing a fatality-type move by piercing a guy's throat with an arrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFhLS7DmLlc&t=2m39s
Somehow I feel the narrative is going to be shit.
Yeah, it's like they really don't know what they want to do with the game.
On one hand: emotions! she's a vulnerable girl but has to kill to survive!
On the other hand: let's make a shooter with waves of enemies and flashy and brutal melee finishers!
It's really weird because they almost got it right in Anniversary. There was only a single human enemy that Lara killed there, and: 1) she had a reason to do so; 2) she was shocked at what she did right after she killed Larson; 3) she was still in shock when she faced Kolt and Kid, and when Natla mentions this before the final confrontation. You could feel that killing Larson had impact on the character in that game.
Here? One moment she throws up after killing a human; next moment she kills tons of them, stabs them in the neck with an arrow, pushes them down from the ledge, burns them alive etc.
Apparently GamePro Germany brings that up in their preview (you can hear the narrator mocking Lara's whining :lol):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=C9NZxaSCJXM
Cjdamon042
Member
I'm really looking forward to this, but the extreme lack of tombs and the fact the part at the start of the trailer is practically identical to Uncharted 2 (amongst other similarities) is really starting to get to me.
I hope it turns out good, and from what I played at Eurogamer it was enjoyable, but I'm thinking it won't feel anything like a Tomb Raider game. Maybe if there's a sequel they can focus less on character development and more on exploration and puzzle solving. I like having stories and character development, but if a game is called Tomb Raider I expect tomb raiding.
I hope it turns out good, and from what I played at Eurogamer it was enjoyable, but I'm thinking it won't feel anything like a Tomb Raider game. Maybe if there's a sequel they can focus less on character development and more on exploration and puzzle solving. I like having stories and character development, but if a game is called Tomb Raider I expect tomb raiding.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Invisible Walls podcast says there are tombs. Sounds like they might be more like the optional ones in Assassin's Creed that aren't part of the main plotline though.
You raid cypts at times in Uncharted, and and in Tomb Raider series you're not always platforming inside tombs per se. Sometimes it's temples. Like Uncharted. The platforming in Uncharted is not minimal, and it's half of its game play. I've played them so I know exactly what I am talking about.
Yes it does resemble Gears of War cover system and maybe RE4 but also definitely Tomb Raider.
Platforming and puzzles in uncharted are more like 20% of the game and 80% for shooting where in previous tomb riders there was about 50% of platforming 20% puzzles and rest for shooting.
I'm still not gonna budge from the stance that Uncharted derives some inspiration from the platforming, shooting, crypt exploring game that came before it, Tomb Raider.
sublimit
Banned
Did you realize that maybe the disappointed ones have lost hope and they no longer care to hang around in those forums?There's also so much flaming for anyone who dares to express a negative opinion so i guess it would've been pointless of them to still post on those forums.
Oh please...enough with this excuse.It's possible to stay within the formula and still be successful.There is a saying "if something ain't broken don't try to fix it."
I'm not saying that everything should stay the same but it's possible to evolve a certain formula by expanding the strengths that made the original formula work so well.
It seems that the "reboot" is just an excuse to make it more easier for them to discard the old identity of the game once and for all.In that case it would have been more appropriate to make it a new IP and be done with it.But trying to fool us that this thing is "Tomb Raider" is a lie.
And no, having a few tombs around is not enough.Even Uncharted had tombs but it never was Tomb Raider.The experience is not defined by the theme of the set pieces but from how you navigate in those and from what kind of hazzards you have to overcome in order for your progress to feel satisfying.
So you're saying that the next Devil May cry game should be a FPS with an emphasis on multiplayer?Otherwise it's impossible to make money?
Riiiight...
But the thing is the combat was never the most important aspect of TR.No one was buying TR for its combat.If they wanted shooters there were far better games in the market.
Shooting in TR was just something to offer a bit of variety in the gameplay among all the platforming,traps,puzzles and exploration.
With this new game it seems it will be exactly the opposite.
dark_inferno
Member
I wanna protect her? Nope i will do that what i ever do in a Tomb Raider game : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE49ZHIP0Go