I'd accept an apology, yes.
Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad
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I'd accept an apology, yes.
EmCeeGramr
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Agreed, but the fact that there's not even an option to argue the point (at least in the original) just infuriated me.
Especially when I think people discovered that there was a difference if you accomplished
peace between geth and quarians.
the created will always destroy their creators
In the original, Shepard just seemed unable to do anything accept groggily mutter and nod their head as this exposition dump was dropped on you.
ShockingAlberto
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Getting mad at people for disparaging Gies by defending the sanctity of opinions does not seem well thought-out.
There's a reason it took almost two full threads on gaf to contain the trauma, and how easy it bubbled up in this thread again.
Anatoli Bacharach
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Yeah it would be great. Other podcasts have it and it's great there. Unlikely to happen any time soon though, because of Ryan Davis being a boneheaded bonehead.
Infinite Justice
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the threads here when it happened were damn great LOL
Hot Coldman
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Put it this way: what would be the optimal last gaming memory of 2012?
a) puzzling over a Frankenstein of an ending that, endless debate/anguish/disgust aside, generally doesn't satisfy the player as much as one may like, or
b) dressing up like a pantsless Shinen the Wanderer, running around a city, grabbing people, throwing them into the backs of cars, driving said car down the freeway as fast as you can go, blasting Machine Head at full volume as you drive, leaping out as the car veers off of the road, shooting the tires out in slow-mo, grabbing the nearest pedestrian and breaking their legs, call up fake Emma Stone for a hot date, and then go and sing Take On Me at a karaoke bar?
Make the right choice here, Brad.
a) puzzling over a Frankenstein of an ending that, endless debate/anguish/disgust aside, generally doesn't satisfy the player as much as one may like, or
b) dressing up like a pantsless Shinen the Wanderer, running around a city, grabbing people, throwing them into the backs of cars, driving said car down the freeway as fast as you can go, blasting Machine Head at full volume as you drive, leaping out as the car veers off of the road, shooting the tires out in slow-mo, grabbing the nearest pedestrian and breaking their legs, call up fake Emma Stone for a hot date, and then go and sing Take On Me at a karaoke bar?
Make the right choice here, Brad.
I feel like it's better to end the year the way we started it, shitting on Mass Effect.
Hot Coldman
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All I hope is that no one invokes the line of "The fact that people are so worked up about a video game story is an important milestone for the industry" with regard to ME3 in the GOTY podcast. What a pointless argument that is, especially when there were games this year with far better narrative that nailed the landing.
WrenchNinja
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The catalysts existence and his solution disapproves his own point.
EmCeeGramr
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i still remember when that script leak happened with the demo and people kept insisting that it was from years old and wouldn't represent the final game in any way
it's true, some really cool things in there were rewritten in the final game. but when I skimmed through it and happened upon a single line, "
" and knowing in my heart of hearts that bioware was never going to live it down
it's true, some really cool things in there were rewritten in the final game. but when I skimmed through it and happened upon a single line, "
In a perfect ending, Shepard steps off the platform and becomes one with the Reapers
That's not a plot hole. Mass effect 3 ending spoiler.
The peace between Geth and Quarian is too recent to know if it will last a year, 5 years,1000 years etc. The Starchild isn't talking about short term peace.
eot
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I think the only way you can accept the ending is if you stare yourself blind at it and let yourself forget what a good (in terms of execution) finale to the game would've looked like. This flowchart someone made is not that far off compared to what they did in ME2 and when thinking about the ending it's good to put it in the context of BioWare's previous work. It just wasn't up to the standards they've established for themselves.
https://images.nonexiste.net/popula...nding-and-submit-my-own-and-yes-spoilers.jpeg
https://images.nonexiste.net/popula...nding-and-submit-my-own-and-yes-spoilers.jpeg
slightconfuse
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but it can be long term. there is no reason why you cant argue against the star child. he just lectures you and you make a choice. the whole game is about uniting the galaxy something no other cycle did. which is why the crucible was made. how can you not give me the chance to refute this point.
the whole star child thing is ridiculous in the grand scheme of thing.
the whole star child thing is ridiculous in the grand scheme of thing.
the ending is poorly execuited compared to the other 2 games
WrenchNinja
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Long term like the catalyst itself? Oh.
I foolishly thought this thread was about Giant Bomb, apparently I walked right into a ME3 ending thread by accide-oh wait a minute.
Mass Effect has a tendency to infect any thread its mentioned in. Trust me, I used to be one of those most guilty of it. Now, I'm kind of over it all.
Maybe the ending of ME3 accomplished some good.
As for GB stuff, I think everyone should brace for another week of "WHERE'S THE CONTENT?" because I think we're getting jack and shit until (hopefully) the final day in the office and a Nostalgia streaming day and then GOTY.
slightconfuse
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anyone got a link or can explain the "dark energy " thing that they threwout
This is very interesting. My reaction was very different. I actually cant bring myself to play anything Shepard related anymore.
After choosing to have him control the reapers and watching him become one with the catalyst, and thusly suddenly controling the "fate" of the universe, I lost any feeling of connection with the character.
Matthew Rorie posted a piece on Far Cry 3 on his blog a few days ago, detailing some faults that he sees in the game - something that is going to be relevant to the coming GOTY discussion:
http://matthewrorie.tumblr.com/post/37204855276/far-cry-3-and-the-curse-of-the-almost-great-game
To me, the very serious performance issues on consoles disqualify the game even before considering any of the gameplay issues he raises.
http://matthewrorie.tumblr.com/post/37204855276/far-cry-3-and-the-curse-of-the-almost-great-game
To me, the very serious performance issues on consoles disqualify the game even before considering any of the gameplay issues he raises.
Infinite Justice
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I wonder what was Vinny's reaction to the Dark Souls 2 announcement and will we see Dark Vinny again
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Matthew Rorie knows what's up. I really doubt we'll see anything like that from the Bomb crew, except for maybe "ehh the side quests weren't very good... but it doesn't matter."
Enjoyed reading Matt's perspective on the game. The man knows the medium, and he brings up a lot of things the Giant Bomb guys haven't really touched on regarding Far Cry 3's flaws beyond character and story.
Would love to see him interacting with GB in video and audio form more often, but in the meantime I'll at least be checking out his Tumblr for more articles like this. Thanks for the heads up.
From the comments, in response to "Any chance you'll go work for Giant Bomb?"
I want this to happen.
Jeff has made allusions to perhaps hiring a new editor who would have to be big into the e-sports/moba/f2p scene which he admits their current staff is weak with. Not sure if Rorie is that kind of guy.
Hot Coldman
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The only thing that irked me about the CBS handover was Rorie being left out in the cold. He should be at Giant Bomb, necessity be damned.
shadyspace
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Rorie got fucked and I'm still convinced nobody told him jackshit what was happening
slightconfuse
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Yea it's a shame rorie was left out to dry . He seems like he would be good for covering niche games. Like souks series .
Also his guides that he wrote are well done.
Also his guides that he wrote are well done.
Rorie seems to still write game guides:
Far Cry 3 - http://www.gamespot.com/features/far-cry-3-game-guide-6401066/
Assassin's Creed 3 - http://www.gamespot.com/features/assassins-creed-3-game-guide-6399051/
CrunchinJelly
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Eh, he likely got a nice package.
Seems highly unlikely, he probably got the boot. Editorial staff usually doesn't profit when a company is sold.
Typographenia
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You know, I did my best to not form an unfair opinion of Gies when he was talking in the journalism thread before, but this twitter nonsense won't stop me. Absurd.
Brad, what has become of you?!
CrunchinJelly
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I didn't say anything about the sale. When he was fired he probably got a decent severance package is all I'm saying.
What do you base this on? I don't think severance packages in the gaming/movie journalism industry are particularly good (if he even got anything).
Brewster's Wallet
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Now you're just being Arthur Gies from the other side, tbf.
I like ME3. Very glad Brad mentioned Leviathon as I went back to play it. Agree that its nuts that that part is optional DLC though.
Also, this needs to happen. Easily my favourite game of the year
Fantastic blog post by Rorie. Highlights pretty much all my complaints with Far Cry 3. Seriously overrated game filled to the brim with poor and lackluster design decisions. Amazing fun in the first 5 hours though.
I really wish Giant Bomb would hire Rorie. He would make an outstanding addition to the team.
SatelliteOfLove
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He is the Anti-Vinny, sent to seed discord and lead the faithful astray leading up to the Reviewer Judgement Day.
slightconfuse
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Alex was taken by giantbomb. at that point he was splitting his time between the 2.
Rorie left after the sale and noone picked him up.
Why would they need interns? They either keep on trucking or get absorbed within Gamespot.
Riposte
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That might come up.
And it would be yet another layer of how funny their Skyrim GotY was I suppose.
God I love Sleepy Dawgs
slightconfuse
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Scoops likes Binary Domain??
Riposte
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Ironically. This is Giant Bomb.
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