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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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maquiladora said:
Not to mention the fucking hideous art direction.
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I know, right? Art direction was fucking woeful. Not enough desaturated brown in there.

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You see this Sculli?

Read James Cameron's Sworn Declaration on How He Created 'Avata' http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/read-james-camerons-sworn-declaration-avatar-399979

Cameron says he has been pulling together elements of Avatar almost all his life. When he was in 11th grade, he did a pen drawing entitled "Spring on Planet Flora" which he says became the concept behind the alien jungle landscape on the moon Pandora, where Avatar takes place. When he was in college, he co-authored a script about a wheelchair-bound man who elects to surgically remove all external sensory input, so that he can journey through his own mind. And in the late 1970s, he co-wrote a script entitled Xenogenesis, where characters encounter strange creatures on a planet.
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More at the link.
 
Yep, in Cameron's sworn statement he identifies Lawrence of Arabia and John Carter as influences. I don't see why people couldn't see this and instead scream Dances With Wolves. Lulz.
 
Scullibundo said:
Yep, in Cameron's sworn statement he identifies Lawrence of Arabia and John Carter as influences. I don't see why people couldn't see this and instead scream Dances With Wolves. Lulz.
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Probably because id wager that most people who scream dances with wolves, most likely have never even seen it.

Should be obvious to anyone with a clue that the film is more than anything a personal riff on John Carter, and the stranger in a strange land trope in general.
 
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Probably because id wager that most people who scream dances with wolves, most likely have never even seen it.

Should be obvious to anyone with a clue that the film is more than anything a personal riff on John Carter, and the stranger in a strange land trope in general.
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Yes, that was always my guess. People gotta go after the popular kid and tear him down.

I don't see anybody going after Malick! :lol
 
I've had a strange experience this last week or so. A number of high profile trailers have emerged, some for films I've been waiting to get a good look at, and I've watched a few random things that have been coming up frequently on GAF, and amongst friends. Watching these trailers, something really struck me. How really terrible the CG looks to me. This could be for a few reasons, maybe they're not finished, maybe they're objectively below industry standards, and maybe I've changed. I did notice while looking at my blurays, I have almost nothing with significant CG that either isn't fully animated, like Wall-E, or isn't Avatar.

What's strange is I don't believe any of those three things are the case. Some of them are from finished films, they're all of major budgets, with top CG studios providing the work, and to test if I really had grown disdainful of CG, I watched Avatar again, and it is as stunning as I remember.

I had gone through and grabbed screens of offending scenes, to support this post, unfortunately, it's hard to see just how shit they look when they're not moving mostly. But certainly Man of Steel, Star Trek, Pacific Rim, The Hobbit, Life of Pi and World War Z were amongst them.

I happened to watch Inception the other day too, and that has some really horrible CG. Obviously there is tons of effects I couldn't even notice, in almost all films, digital set extensions, etc, but for some reason, I appear to really hate these major CG elements, and they stand out horribly every time I see them. For whatever reason, Avatar appears to be the lone exception. If anything, it's the live action I don't like in Avatar oddly.

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Just look at that shit, awful.
 
Usually takes a good director and a great SFX supervisor working in unison to avoid that stuff, I find. Directors with a more discerning eye for the details that make CG look convincing. It's why Cameron and Fincher's films look so good. Both of them are experts due to their history with CG.
 
Pacific Rim looks shockingly shoddy in the CGI department.

Avatar happens to have a really organic look to it as well imo, the CGI never feels clinical or removed from the real world.
 
The only thing I find disappointing in Avatar is the avatar link up room set. The textures and materials used on that set look super fake and plasticy. The avatar beds especially. Up your game, WETA Workshop.
 
Scullibundo said:
Usually takes a good director and a great SFX supervisor working in unison to avoid that stuff, I find. Directors with a more discerning eye for the details that make CG look convincing. It's why Cameron and Fincher's films look so good. Both of them are experts due to their history with CG.
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Same goes for Blomkamp.
 
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The only thing I find disappointing in Avatar is the avatar link up room set. The textures and materials used on that set look super fake and plasticy. The avatar beds especially. Up your game, WETA Workshop.
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Funny you mention that, I've always hated the stasis pod room in the film, and I was watching the special features yesterday, and saw that some of that was actually real, I thought that shiny plastic was just bad CG, it was actually perfectly matching the real life horrible thing they shot.
 
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